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Yes.sp0rsk said:
I'm quite sick of starting an argument only to be hit with the whole "WHY YOU BASH IT?! YOU JUST A HATER!!!!!" attitude. That doesn't interest me in the least.
Discussing the negative points of something is quite interesting. If everyone were to enter the thread with nothing but praise, we'd have no discussions.
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Agree with Vas... stop critisising people for having an opinion, and don't assume every negative comment is an example of trolling.
Having said that, I watched the vids today and the death animations/physics didn't seem to pop out at me as much as last night.
Although I think we need the bloke from Edge Magazine who saw it before to tell us if *that's* the merry jig of death that reminded him of GoldenEye... GE felt much more solid, imho.
Anyway, the city looks AWESOME. I mean, it really does... it looks great - everything about it.
I do agree with the people going on about the 3rd person roll cam being jarring, and how annoying it looks on that multiplayer video.
I think it's perhaps a bit over-used, the 3rd person perspective, I think Halo did it well, and PDZ might be overegging the pudding just to get marketable IP/characters for merchandise, I mean... it's not that necessary to go 3rd person for ziplines and climbing ladders is it? (although having said that, IGI and Riddick were fine- I guess it's the rolling that's the biggest concern right now)
I also noticed the M60 had caltrops as the secondary... /me has fond memories of being a Scout in TFC...
Having said that, I watched the vids today and the death animations/physics didn't seem to pop out at me as much as last night.
Although I think we need the bloke from Edge Magazine who saw it before to tell us if *that's* the merry jig of death that reminded him of GoldenEye... GE felt much more solid, imho.
Anyway, the city looks AWESOME. I mean, it really does... it looks great - everything about it.
I do agree with the people going on about the 3rd person roll cam being jarring, and how annoying it looks on that multiplayer video.
I think it's perhaps a bit over-used, the 3rd person perspective, I think Halo did it well, and PDZ might be overegging the pudding just to get marketable IP/characters for merchandise, I mean... it's not that necessary to go 3rd person for ziplines and climbing ladders is it? (although having said that, IGI and Riddick were fine- I guess it's the rolling that's the biggest concern right now)
I also noticed the M60 had caltrops as the secondary... /me has fond memories of being a Scout in TFC...
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sp0rsk said:
Kiss my ass! Kiss my ass! I'm the biggest hater!
dark10x said:
Well see, I kind of snapped last week because there was just so much irrational negativity. SOME negativity is cool, and you and I have had a great discussion in this thread, but a lot of the people aren't interested in that. Which is unfortunate because then good discussion is killed by this ridiculous black-and-white stupidity. So when someone DOES bring up some negativity for good discussion all the people that like the game are so defensive and touchy from arguing with the stupid people that you just get lumped in.
ThirdEye said:
Well that is one of the major problems with these kind of per pixel texturing effects. They use specular high lights to show off the bump maps, and a side effect is that it can look too plastic or cgish.... Lower the amount of specular high light and the parallax map bumps will be less visible and wont stand out that much. It is a trade off unfortunately with these kind of effects.
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ThirdEye said:
I don't think it was ever meant to look super realistic.
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sp0rsk said:
:lol:lol:lol
I'm literally laughing out loud here!
Just seen the movie... and I think it looks good.
The only problem I might have is the 3rd person bits, they seem unnecessary, climbing a ladder and (wire) gliding seems to be automatic (i.e press the action button) which means that you not likely gonna take damage and the roll though look disconcerting.
Other than that, the death animations a fine ( artistic license there ), the ai will be surely better than that and the framerate looks rock solid.
The only problem I might have is the 3rd person bits, they seem unnecessary, climbing a ladder and (wire) gliding seems to be automatic (i.e press the action button) which means that you not likely gonna take damage and the roll though look disconcerting.
Other than that, the death animations a fine ( artistic license there ), the ai will be surely better than that and the framerate looks rock solid.
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Shompola said:
Ummmm... did you realize that you're only supporting sp0rsk's claim that some xbox fans don't have any real arguments so instead they start calling people names? Unless you're kidding.
Let me just say that I'm both hopeful and skeptical for Perfect Dark. I really enjoyed the original and in fact there was some cool and novel ideas that has yet to be bested. The Rare of today is much different from the days of Goldeneye and PD though. I hope we see some expansive levels, sweet gadgets, and great AI.
Watching those vids didn't convince me in either direction. I knew it wasn't going to look nearly as bad as wallguy (MS would have scrapped it instantly) but that's setting the bar too low.
Whoever said that there needs to be more blood spatter is right. I remember that was a big deal in the original and it should be here too. Give me blood baby!
Watching those vids didn't convince me in either direction. I knew it wasn't going to look nearly as bad as wallguy (MS would have scrapped it instantly) but that's setting the bar too low.
Whoever said that there needs to be more blood spatter is right. I remember that was a big deal in the original and it should be here too. Give me blood baby!
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It's hilarious though.
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Speevy said:
I feel like that little green smiley in your tag.
More PD pics are up at Jeux France. These seems to be close up scans (although still low res) of the edge article.
The character models are looking quite good. Not realistic in any way, and thats to do with the art direction. They have that cartooney vibe going. It fits the theme of the game imo
http://www.jeux-france.com/news12534_perfect-dark-zero-se-montre.html
Edit : All they did was photoshop those pics out of the scans, nothing new. just ignore me
The character models are looking quite good. Not realistic in any way, and thats to do with the art direction. They have that cartooney vibe going. It fits the theme of the game imo
http://www.jeux-france.com/news12534_perfect-dark-zero-se-montre.html
Edit : All they did was photoshop those pics out of the scans, nothing new. just ignore me
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PhatSaqs said:
Which kills this place. I've never been to a forum group like it. It's like hideous virtual form of Nam.
Christ. Even the mods are biased on this board.
Shompola said:
Oh obviously theres a difference. However, in this thread and in most other 360 threads as of late any critisism at all is met with "HATER EAT CROW ROFL" Not only does this shit have to stop, its going to stop. And don't give me this semantic "Well its destructive vs constructive" bullshit. What do you want us to say? Every complaint at some point has been met with HATER or "OH NOT THIS AGAIN RIGHT GUYS ROFL". Let me tell you what is fucking destructive. It's this "hater" straw man bullshit.
Fuck the more i think about it the more you are wrong. People have been interjecting constructive critisism. Your whole definition is skewed. Just because its negative doesnt make it destructive. "THIS SHIT SUCKS YOU ARE A WHORE" is destructive, and no surprise it sounds alot like "HES AN XBOX HATER DONT LISTEN TO HIM."
And don't give me this fucking "junior" shit. If you are gonna make a fucking attempt at talking down to me atleast say something more substantial than "IM OLDER THAN YOU IM OLDER THAN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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cyberheater said:
Go to teamxbox. Speevy can guide you to it. Everyone has the same opinion there so there are no arguments or criticism (which according to your opinion kill this place).
I agree somewhat. I think I already know the answer, but why not address both sides of the issue? It seems you're placing the blame soley on the people that might overreact to someone being critical. But the people that come in and post "xbot!!!, "how could you think that looks great!!!??", "PS3/MGS4!!!", etc. are at fault just as much (if not moreso).sp0rsk said:
PhatSaqs said:
No im just tired of reading threads that are "I think this looks bad" "SHUTUP HATER :lol :lol :lol :lol "
You can ignore a troll or two, but if you have one troll and 5 people replying with this hater bullshit youve got a good chunk of the thread ruined.
Olimario was not banned because of one specific instance. It was just the last in a string of ignorant rants.
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Agisthos said:
Nah we just like to argue with each other. I did no such thing though. Can you quote it?
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sp0rsk said:
So instead of going after the people that are actually trolling the threads you're going after the people that are complaining about the trolling? That's just fucking stupid. Almost all 360 threads are devoid of any real constructive criticism because the majority of the ones that are bitching are the same people that are always bitching in every 360 thread and most of them have made it quite clear they have no intention of even buying the damn system. It gets old and I can certainly understand some people's reactions around here when you see the same tired bullshit from the same posters in every thread.
Go after the problem instead of the response to it.
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Speevy said:
Oops. You misunderstood me and it's partly my fault. I was saying that in general about the comparison. That's why I used the "btw". The sentence should have been in another paragragh though, because it wasn't directed to you at all, since you weren't even ccmparing the two. My real quote to you was just the "It is the best looking game we've seen so far."
But again, you're still ignoring when the opposite happens ("I think this looks great" "XBOT TOTAL!!! :lol :lol") as if all of the blame goes towards the people that post as you describe. It's not a one sided issue at all and the people that are complaining about it shouldnt be made out to be the laughing stock of the forum.sp0rsk said:
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