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[shibbs]

Poop! Cant watch .mov files at work!

 

[cyberheater]

It does make you wonder wether leaked vids of unfinished games does more harm then good.

X05 will hopefully show a near finished product including physics/A.I etc...

 

[Agisthos]

The framerate looks rock solid and thankgod, cos the original PD really suffered in that department.

PD0 will never be a representation of the X360 power, the development time has been too rushed, and the beta kits with xenos architecture came too late. A shame really, it should be delayed until mid next year to get it right.

I'm sure they are ticked that crappy video beat out the barrage coming at X05 on the 4th.

Speaking of which, this baby ships on the 4th as well:

Not sure which I'm more excited about, really.

I got the Complete Farside in that same format. Will be great to get this as well.

 

[Stinkles]

I'm sure they are ticked that crappy video beat out the barrage coming at X05 on the 4th.

Speaking of which, this baby ships on the 4th as well:



Not sure which I'm more excited about, really.

Whatever, Calvin & Ho-bot.

Everyone knows Garfield will win this gen of funny papers.

1FPS or nothing.

 

[Ceb]

After this thread, X360 fans won't be able to downplay the PS3's possible power advantage. After all, judging from the responses, it seems like the graphics was the main deciding factor for getting this game or not.

 

[quetz67]

I hate to see they prefer enhanced texture effects over real modeled detail. Imagine they use all the polygons of the hundrets of trolls in Kameo to add more detail to the city streets.

 

[Stinkles]

After this thread, X360 fans won't be able to downplay the PS3's possible power advantage. After all, judging from the responses, it seems like the graphics was the main deciding factor for getting this game or not.

What the fuck are you talking about? Are you suggesting two videos of horrible quality, which as far as anyone can tell, show off a nice looking game, will somehow decide the console war?

 

[Agisthos]

Someone earlier in the thread mentioned the ragdoll effect was not much better than Sin or Soldier Of Fortune 2. Have to agree. Its almost like the collision detection with the ground has not been implemented properly and the guys hung in the air after they died.

The original Goldeneye and PD has some slightly exagerrated death anims but it was not too over the top.

But we cannot pass judgement yet, still 2 months of 24hr a day development time left. Poor programmers

 

[quetz67]

After this thread, X360 fans won't be able to downplay the PS3's possible power advantage. After all, judging from the responses, it seems like the graphics was the main deciding factor for getting this game or not.

I think the machine has the power, they just dont use it for PDZ.

I believe we are maybe talking about a GC/Xbox power difference between X360/PS3 (not saying which is more powerful)

 

[Agisthos]

After this thread, X360 fans won't be able to downplay the PS3's possible power advantage. After all, judging from the responses, it seems like the graphics was the main deciding factor for getting this game or not.

Yes, just keep on kidding yourself that this game and other rubbish like NFS Most Wanted is actually what the X360 is capable of.

 

[quetz67]

Someone earlier in the thread mentioned the ragdoll effect was not much better than Sin or Soldier Of Fortune 2. Have to agree. Its almost like the collision detection with the ground has not been implemented properly and the guys hung in the air after they died.

The original Goldeneye and PD has some slightly exagerrated death anims but it was not too over the top.

But we cannot pass judgement yet, still 2 months of 24hr a day development time left. Poor programmers

Ever heard or beta testing, final quality assurance and mastering? This game should be done right now or at latest at X05. Still adding or changing important stuff is extremely dangerous.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I hate to see they prefer enhanced texture effects over real modeled detail. Imagine they use all the polygons of the hundrets of trolls in Kameo to add more detail to the city streets.

That's how they've always been though. Just go back to the N64 days. They're texture wizards, but their character modeling isn't the hottest. The game does look good though, nice improvement over the original build.

 

[Agisthos]

Ever heard or beta testing, final quality assurance and mastering? This game should be done right now or at latest at X05. Still adding or changing important stuff is extremely dangerous.

Yes. That why I think they should delay this game. There is too much more that can be done with it.
Its probably the first time in a long time Rare has been forced to meet a schedule with PD0 and Kameo, and the lack of polish shows.

 

[krypt0nian]

Yes. That why I think they should delay this game. There is too much more that can be done with it.
Its probably the first time in a long time Rare has been forced to meet a schedule with PD0 and Kameo, and the lack of polish shows.

Can we wait til final vids hit before we decide on "lack of polish"?

 

[Blimblim]

Yes. That why I think they should delay this game. There is too much more that can be done with it.
Its probably the first time in a long time Rare has been forced to meet a schedule with PD0 and Kameo, and the lack of polish shows.

Can we please start talking about lack of polish AFTER a game has been released?
Edit: Damn you krypt0nian !

 

[Ceb]

What the fuck are you talking about? Are you suggesting two videos of horrible quality, which as far as anyone can tell, show off a nice looking game, will somehow decide the console war?

No, I wasn't saying this is a good indicator of how the X360 and PS3 fare against each other. I was just talking about this type of reaction (which, after having read the last three pages, was mostly present in the beginning): "ZOMG look at the textures, purchase decided!" It's like people are only worried about whether or not the game will be a good showcase for their new console.

 

[shibbs]

They still got 3 months, this game has been in development for a long time. They should have enough time to polish it now.

Btw, how many vids are there? I see people talk about the 4th vid, i only have 2?

 

[Insertia]

Wow, that looked nothing at all like Perfect Dark. I'm getting a TImesplitters vibe from this game. The enemies were office workers...

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

link on first page doesn't work..

where can I download those vids from?

 

[Agisthos]

Yeah you are right guys.

From reports we have heard the actual gameplay elements of PD0 have been in development for years. So I have been hoping that these last few months have been devoted to replacing those wallguy 'placeholder' graphics with something decent.

If thats the case then graphical touches can be worked on right until the final master disc gets sent off in november. Gameplay changes are, like quetz67 pointed out, very dangerous at this point

 

[Ryudo]

What the fuck are you talking about? Are you suggesting two videos of horrible quality, which as far as anyone can tell, show off a nice looking game, will somehow decide the console war?

:lol what a great post, in fact the highlight of my day.

 

[Uncle]

Gameplay changes are, like quetz67 pointed out, very dangerous at this point

Unless TXB is right about this being a debug build and the AI and physics were just mostly switched off. But let's forget that and go crazy about an unrealeased game and how it plays. It's more fun and requires less thinking.

 

[cyberheater]

And there's going to be downloadable maps.

The multiplay is currently limited to 32 players but RARE has stated that a patch might get released to move that up to 50 players or more.
It's gonna be utter chaos and bedlam. I can't wait

 

[GhaleonEB]

And there's going to be downloadable maps.

The multiplay is currently limited to 32 players but RARE has stated that a patch might get released to move that up to 50 players or more.
It's gonna be utter chaos and bedlam. I can't wait

I think 32 would be enough. I thought it would be higher, but that was before I read about all the stat-tracking and other stuff going on. I get a little frustrated with Halo 2, some of those maps are too big for only 16 players.

 

[Meatpuppet]

I'm sure they are ticked that crappy video beat out the barrage coming at X05 on the 4th.

Speaking of which, this baby ships on the 4th as well:

Not sure which I'm more excited about, really.

Shit, I forgot all about this.

I weep for my wallet.

 

[Ramirez]

The whole 32 player thing will suck balls if it's handled in any way like Halo 2,Big Team Battle is just a lag fest 90% of the time and thats only 16 people! :lol

 

[cybamerc]

Rare seriously need to tone down the specular lighting. It looks horrible.

 

[ziran]

wow! it looks perfect dark and it looks amazing!

like many have said, the rag doll physics is silly.

however, i think this is a problem with rag doll physics in general, it always looks like a rag doll and not like a human. it reminds me of movies and tv shows where a person gets shot then falls off a cliff, and you can tell it's obviously a dummy falling. it looks crap.

rag doll physics needs to go, it's not realistic, we need human dying physics

 

[Monk]

Rare seriously need to tone down the specular lighting. It looks horrible.

*Runs out of thread before it explodes*

 

[cyberheater]

wow! it looks perfect dark and it looks amazing!

like many have said, the rag doll physics is silly.

however, i think this is a problem with rag doll physics in general, it always looks like a rag doll and not like a human. it reminds me of movies and tv shows where a person gets shot then falls off a cliff, and you can tell it's obviously a dummy falling. it looks crap.

rag doll physics needs to go, it's not realistic, we need human dying physics

Or something inbetween. It is a game after all and it does need a bit of overblown animation.

 

[Shogmaster]

Rare seriously need to tone down the specular lighting. It looks horrible.

So exactly how much is Sony viral marketing dept paying you to troll X360 thread, "cybamerc".

I hope it's at least the minimum wage.

 

[cybamerc]

So exactly how much is Sony viral marketing dept paying you to troll X360 thread, "cybamerc".

Feeling insecure? What does Sony have to do with PD0 looking bad? Or me for that matter?

 

[Casshern]

So exactly how much is Sony viral marketing dept paying you to troll X360 thread, "cybamerc".

I hope it's at least the minimum wage.

Dear Shogmaster,

In my opinion the only two members who have been consistently trolling in this thread is you and that ex-nintendo fanboy and new ally of yours. And even worse you don't troll consoles, you troll people with different opinion.

Yours trully,

Casshern

 

[cyberheater]

Dear Shogmaster,

In my opinion the only two members who have been consistently trolling in this thread is you and that ex-nintendo fanboy and new ally of yours. And even worse you don't troll consoles, you troll people with different opinion.

Yours trully,

Casshern

I'm with Shogmaster. The other guy always states negatives in the threads that i've seen.

 

[SolidSnakex]

So exactly how much is Sony viral marketing dept paying you to troll X360 thread, "cybamerc".

I hope it's at least the minimum wage.

When did cyba become a Sony fanboy?

 

[quetz67]

So exactly how much is Sony viral marketing dept paying you to troll X360 thread, "cybamerc".

I hope it's at least the minimum wage.

I think Sony marketing dept went a step further, they payed the PDZ team ;-)

 

[Chrono]

While it doesn't look insanely amazing, it does look good. Today was the first time I actually thought about buying an X360 and it's because of those clips. PD (on N64) was awesome.

I think Sony marketing dept went a step further, they payed the PDZ team

:lol

 

[Ruzbeh]

These graphics are great! But those animations are hilarious. :lol

 

[cyberheater]

When did cyba become a Sony fanboy?

He might not be a Sony fanboy but going over his posting history, he is relentlessly negative about every 360 screenshot/vid.

 

[Wollan]

This video changed my view of the game. Im no longer worried about the graphics but of the gameplay instead.

 

[SolidSnakex]

He might not be a Sony fanboy but going over his posting history, he is relentlessly negative about every 360 screenshot/vid.

He's relentlessly negative about EVERYTHING unless its really really impressive.

 

[Shompola]

He's relentlessly negative about EVERYTHING unless its really really impressive.

You mean everything that isnt signed by Nintendo...

 

[Sunski]

Looks great. They coudl easily tone down the ragdoll physics but I think they want it slightly over the top for impact. You'll feel a lot more happiness making one of those suits fly around being pummelled with bullets than if they just fell to the floor as per normal games.

 

[James-Ape]

While it doesn't look insanely amazing, it does look good.

Yeah It definitely looks alot better than the old shots but not as good as some other stuff I have seen on the Xbox 2.

I think I would be more concerned about the gameplay, just from those videos. But it seems to be getting positive previews so it's probably just the video.

 

[Funky Papa]

I am feeling shades of the Xbox launch. Like, you know, this thread is pretty damn similar to the Halo ones @ the old GAF.

Some things will never change.

 

[Ruzbeh]

You mean everything that isnt signed by Nintendo...

Cybamerc is a Nintendo fanboy??? :lol

 

[Chrono]

Cybamerc is a Nintendo fanboy??? :lol

They must label each person in a certain group or else they crash. It's part of their design.

 

[Shompola]

Cybamerc is a Nintendo fanboy??? :lol

Dont act stupid. Everyone who has been here longer than 1 year knows he is a hardcore nintendo fan....

Chrono, shut it up.. you dont know what you are saying....

 

[Monk]

He is an ati fan more than anything iirc.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I would just like to say I think this looks great it could do with some minor changes and tweaks but there is enough time left to iron out those little imperfections. I am not a fan of either side, I think all next gen consoles have a different appeal. Don’t pigeonhole me bitches!