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[Little Mac]

Did anyone else laugh their ass ass when Hardcourt and Peacemaker escaped Argus by flying through the glass?

 

[Hookshot]

Keith doesn't seem like a big enough threat for a season ender. But I guess it was a season more about Peacemaker going through shit than him being a hero this time.

 

[Bulletzen72]

Keith doesn't seem like a big enough threat for a season ender. But I guess it was a season more about Peacemaker going through shit than him being a hero this time.

I suspect we just saw the origins of the super villain for Peacemaker in season 3. Captain Triumph may fuck some thing up for Chris and he may have to kill him again!

 

[IDKFA]

I mean the Nazis were white supremacists.

That's a modern misconception.

They certainly were racist, but they didn't think white people were superior. They had a bizarre racial ladder that didn't group people together by skin colour. For example;

"Aryans" (specifically northern Europeans — Germans, Scandinavians, etc.) were at the top of this racial ladder.

"Slavs" (Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, etc.) were considered Untermenschen ("subhumans") — fit for enslavement or extermination. Near the bottom with the Jews.

They didn't see all non-whites as subhumans. The Nazis sometimes described Indians, especially upper-caste Hindus, as distant Aryan relatives, racially "diluted" but culturally linked to the original race. They put these non-white Hindus above white Slavs in their racial ranking. They even had Indian troops fighting for them.

So yes, they were racist, but they were not white supremacist.

Actually, racism isn't a fundamental part of fascism anyway. The vanilla fascists in Italy thought the Nazi obsession with race to be very bizarre. (I'm not defending fascism here, I'm just trying to clear up historical misconceptions)

 

[IntentionalPun]

Incredibly predictable season but I am still enjoying it. There was 1 episode I kind of tuned out of as it bored me but the rest have been decent to good.

I generally like all the characters which is rare these days. Fun group to watch, which is what Gunn is best at.

 

[GateofD]

Don't see why Nazis winning WWII would jump to them taking over the world in the first place. Maybe take over europe for a few decades, but no way would they reach across to US or China

 

[GateofD]

James Gunn says the finale will have a big cameo. I think it'll be Margo Robbie

Banking in on Ultraman or now Bizarro or something whoever the name of the clone was in the movie since he was thrown in the dimensional cracks

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

To bad his alt dad

Spoiler

died

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Don't see why Nazis winning WWII would jump to them taking over the world in the first place. Maybe take over europe for a few decades, but no way would they reach across to US or China

The nazi's got the nuclear bomb first, and nuked the US and completely obliterated russia.
Why wouldn't they reach across and instill their rule on a nation that's already surrendered under threat of annihilation? No invasion needed, just waltz in and take it, any rebellion/freedom fighters don't stand a chance either because japan is on the other side and moves in from there, they are hopelessly outgunned and outnumbered.

Actual nazi's during WWII reached all the way to south america, but somehow they wouldn't reach north america in the scenario where they have practically no opposition anymore?

 

[KyoZz]

We see that there are still drugs on Earth X, still deaths, still people suffering... She's correct.

Please, let's not be disingenuous. We both know what is implied here and I'm tired of this shit.

 

[GateofD]

To bad his alt dad

Spoiler

died

fuck Vigilante argh, hate this guy

 

[LegendOfKage]

Don't see why Nazis winning WWII would jump to them taking over the world in the first place. Maybe take over europe for a few decades, but no way would they reach across to US or China

 

[Boo Who?]

I was waiting for a "black people can't swim" bit when she jumped in the pool. Something along the lines of "No need to chase her anymore, she just done herself in."

I'm a terrible swimmer, and my white ass would have walked right around the edge of that thing.

 

[BadBurger]

I didn't see that twist with

Spoiler

Blue Dragon / Auggie coming.

It actually makes sense, though, and makes Chris's story all the more tragic. Many laughs, many sobs, this episode.

The preview of this week's episode looks fantastic. I'm thinking that

Spoiler

Argus poking around the other worlds will draw the attention of either Darkseid or Braniac. That or they're going to accidentally let Parasite enter our world. Any three of those could be the Big Bad of Superman: Man of Tomorrow, though I am guessing Braniac is most likely given the illustration on the cover of the script's first draft that Gunn shared on social media

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

The candy planet was a treat I wonder how he will get back from the other "prison" planet

The preview of this week's episode looks fantastic. I'm thinking that

yeah it looks like they are setting up events for the next Superman movie

 

[Revolutionary]

Great finale but based on rumors I was expecting a more direct lead into Man of Tomorrow. But in retrospect it's probably a little too early for that since MoT is still 2 years out and we've got Supergirl and Lanterns coming up next year that will probably sow some more seeds

Anyway, spoilers:
Flag Sr is one vengeful bastard. I mean, I guess I can't blame him but damn, he's basically in Lex's pocket now. Also apparently Salvation is a training ground for Apokalips forces in the comics so it's going to be interesting to see where things go.


As for my thoughts on the season as a whole... I have to admit I thought most of the episodes felt a little too short BUT one of my complaints about TV shows in general (and why I prefer movies) is the amount of filler in many shows to reach a certain runtime. This show doesn't seem to care about runtime (this season's episodes range anywhere from 28 minutes to an hour) and that's kinda admirable. Not to say that the show doesn't have any filler, but I think it's better to tell the story you want to tell than drag it out longer than it needs to be.


Final episode of the Season 2 podcast:

 

[adamsapple]

That was a good finale.

Gunn already confirmed all the principal cast will be back so that's good.

The final few minutes were a gut punch.

 

[DrFigs]

I saw someone describe this episode as indulgent, and I think they're right. I feel that the needle drops are too frequent, and rarely elevate the scenes, and that the extended concert scenes were more for Gunn than for the story. But I also liked that they had a subdued story this time around (not everything has to be about saving the world) and I like that they didn't do a big cartoonish battle at the end. Lots to like about the direction the story is going as well.

I like that peacemaker wasn't held to an arbitrary length for their episodes and allowed them to vary. But then why is it that the episodes were all on the shorter side? We could have spent some more time in the alt universe learning more about their characters.

Also I think John Cena's performance this last episode was not good. But maybe it's the material he was given. He was acting like a child this episode, reminiscent of season 1 performance.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

What a horribly boring episode holy shit, an hour where basically nothing happens, this could've been condensed into 25 minutes at best.
Seriously terrible way to end the season, all it was were some songs and dances and flag being a garbage person.

 

[DrFigs]

I think Flag makes a good point about the planet. They're forgoing trillions of dollars of resources, but metahumans literally are responsible for that much damage very year. So yeah i think it's a tough trade off to make a prison planet, but actually probably worth it. Not committed to saying he's a "bad guy" other than that he obviously wanted revenge.

 

[Hookshot]

Thought it was rubbish. Nothing really happened and the plan is dumb. Just dump metas in the black hole door and conquer all the other doorways