People refuse to stop buying the DS

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Even Canadians, despite the jacked-up price...

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/December2004/21/c7624.html
VANCOUVER, Dec. 21 /CNW/ - Great news for shoppers searching for one of
this year's hottest gift items. Nintendo of Canada announced today that an
additional 12,000 Nintendo DS(TM) systems will be arriving in stores across
the country just in time for Christmas.
Canadian retailers sold an estimated 90 per cent of their Nintendo DS
inventory in the first two weeks of December. In North America, eager holiday
shoppers have snapped up 1 million Nintendo DS systems since the popular
dual-screen handheld gaming system launched one month ago. Before the end of
the year, Nintendo will have shipped 1.4-million Nintendo DS systems to North
America alone.
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I guess it's reached "must-have gift" status for the holidays.
 
The DS is one hot toy. Everybody is interested. I do think the new gimmicks on the DS attracs other customers than usual.

"Touchscreen? Two Screens? 3D? Wow!!"
 
Ruud_Luiten said:
The DS is one hot toy. Everybody is interested. I do think the new gimmicks on the DS attracs other customers than usual.

"Touchscreen? Two Screens? 3D? Wow!!"
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It's like people have been saying, the touch screen on the DS really makes it something 'different' that alot of non gamers are digging pretty hard. I said along time ago that this touch screen culture would take off like gang busters. Glad I don't have to eat a broom :)
 
Nintendo knows it can sell DSs just because it is new and has all these cool features and the timing is right.

To be quite honest though, I'm a bit concerned over how the software situation is going to shape up. There is still the danger of generally a lack of interesting software even if there isn't a shortage of them.

As of right now, I don't plan on buyin ga DS mainly because nothing really interests me on the software side. A portable Zelda game and a few RTS games for good measure might change that really quickly though.
 
Gregory said:
Sony are really losing out with it`s late US launch. The DS is getting a huge headstart.
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Believe me, it won't matter.

Archive this thread, I'm ready to eat crow on this one!
 
Good news for the DS. Crow for them who said that the DS would be the next virtual boy.

EDIT: Deja Vu sho nuff :lol
 
Wuster said:
Nintendo knows it can sell DSs just because it is new and has all these cool features and the timing is right.

To be quite honest though, I'm a bit concerned over how the software situation is going to shape up. There is still the danger of generally a lack of interesting software even if there isn't a shortage of them.

As of right now, I don't plan on buyin ga DS mainly because nothing really interests me on the software side. A portable Zelda game and a few RTS games for good measure might change that really quickly though.
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I agree, and that's why I haven't pursued a DS yet. It's a machine with potential that's simply not being fufilled right now.
 
And that's without any stellar launch games! I think Nintendo is holding some games back for the PSP launch, it's gonna get ugly.
 
Sho Nuff said:
Believe me, it won't matter.

Archive this thread, I'm ready to eat crow on this one!
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Man, I completely agree. If wrong, I'll gladly eat crow, but Sony's got to hot an item to "lose."
 
Yeah, tis the season for Sony to get reamed, big time. And by Nintendo no less, the fates clearly have a very good sense of humor, or perhaps irony. I'm still saving up for the PSP, but it better be a damn good PSP. I'm ready to leave Pokemon behind me, as well as Advance Wars 2, Sony just better deliver the NON-DEFECTIVE goods come next year. I felt the caps might help Sony notice my disappointment, and underline my slow loss of faith in Sony so recently restored by the Jak series.
 
Celicar said:
Yeah, I love the DS...I've made over $500 selling them on ebay this month! :lol
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Either you are the master of ebay or you sold like 30 of them, because everytime I go to ebay I see them selling at best for like $20 over the original retail price.
 
kpop100 said:
Either you are the master of ebay or you sold like 30 of them, because everytime I go to ebay I see them selling at best for like $20 over the original retail price.
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Which is why I haven't bothered to sell MY extra DS yet.
 
Yes, DS has a huge headstart, but so did the Dreamcast, and looked what happened there. I have a feeling we're going to see tons of "Trade in your DS for half off a PSP!!!" signs at game stores soon enough.
 
DavidDayton said:
Which is why I haven't bothered to sell MY extra DS yet.
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I would sell it now -- it's resale value will only decrease from here on out. It peaked at ~$230 on eBay last week; it's down to about $180 right now.
 
Wuster said:
As of right now, I don't plan on buying a DS mainly because nothing really interests me on the software side.
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Agreed. The only game that would have moderately garnered my interest-- Ridge Racer DS-- is pretty much a port of the N64 game that is the bastard child of the Ridge franchise.
 
FortNinety said:
Yes, DS has a huge headstart, but so did the Dreamcast, and looked what happened there.
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Sega ran out of money, that's what happened. I'm getting a little tired of the myth that the PS2 crushed the Dreamcast with hype.
 
xsarien said:
I'm getting a little tired of the myth that the PS2 crushed the Dreamcast with hype.
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Oooooh... don't let the Sega zealots hear you say that... it's blasphemy! We all know that Sega had nothing to do with their own demise...

[/sarcasm]
 
I don't own anything but Nintendo systems...and I refuse to pay $200 Canadian for a Nintendo DS when there's only one game I'd buy. Like...just not happening. I will wait for the first price drop before jumping on this bandwagon.

But, other Canadians are picking up systems; I saw 10 at a few stores, but this was before Saturday, and I'm guessing they're all gone as of then.
 
xsarien said:
Sega ran out of money, that's what happened. I'm getting a little tired of the myth that the PS2 crushed the Dreamcast with hype.
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*cough*

The fact that SEGA ran out of money is irrelevant because Sony PS2 reamed Dreamcast in sales from the get go. Dreamcast was still alive when Sony came about. It just so happens that the PS2 so utterly raped the DC in sales that it was pointless to continue to hold on by a tiny shred of dirt.

Yes, SEGA bowed out of the competition because they ran out of money. But there's no doubt the PS2 raped the DC and would have continued to even if DC stayed in to 2006.
 
CVXFREAK said:
12,000 DSs?

Dang Canada's a small market.
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Well, let's do the math.

There's roughly 10% of the people in Canada, so that means that if the US Launches with 500k, Canada likely would have gotten 50k or thereabouts. If they're shipping another 12k, and there was likely a fairly solid sellthrough of the initial shipment in that two to three week period beforehand, I'd say 60k for the calendar year; it's a small market, alright.
 
Memles said:
Well, let's do the math.

There's roughly 10% of the people in Canada, so that means that if the US Launches with 500k, Canada likely would have gotten 50k or thereabouts. If they're shipping another 12k, and there was likely a fairly solid sellthrough of the initial shipment in that two to three week period beforehand, I'd say 60k for the calendar year; it's a small market, alright.
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k.
 
Amir0x said:
*cough*

The fact that SEGA ran out of money is irrelevant because Sony PS2 reamed Dreamcast in sales from the get go. Dreamcast was still alive when Sony came about. It just so happens that the PS2 so utterly raped the DC in sales that it was pointless to continue to hold on by a tiny shred of dirt.

Yes, SEGA bowed out of the competition because they ran out of money. But there's no doubt the PS2 raped the DC and would have continued to even if DC stayed in to 2006.
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Who would've "won" isn't the issue, it's what eventually led to the Dreamcast's [un]timely discontinuation. The PS2 is raping the XBox and Gamecube combined, and you don't see either Nintendo or Microsoft blinking. If Sega were able to afford to keep the Dreamcast going, they would have despite the PS2.

And it probably would've done pretty well for itself. Not inching towards 100mil. worldwide like the PS2, but respectable numbers, operating under the assumption that it would've kept Microsoft out of the market, as the WinCE core of the machine would've kept Redmond happy.
 
The Guivre said:
Yeah, tis the season for Sony to get reamed, big time. And by Nintendo no less, the fates clearly have a very good sense of humor, or perhaps irony.
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:lol :lol

It's not even out in the states to get reamed.

And I think given Nintendo's sorry state in the two-console world we're now in they'd better damn well sell every handheld system they can. While I still don't think the two systems will be directly competiting, it's far, far too early to be declaring victory.
 
xsarien said:
Who would've "won" isn't the issue, it's what eventually led to the Dreamcast's [un]timely discontinuation. The PS2 is raping the XBox and Gamecube combined, and you don't see either Nintendo or Microsoft blinking. If Sega were able to afford to keep the Dreamcast going, they would have despite the PS2.

And it probably would've done pretty well for itself. Not inching towards 100mil. worldwide like the PS2, but respectable numbers, operating under the assumption that it would've kept Microsoft out of the market, as the WinCE core of the machine would've kept Redmond happy.
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No, that's not the point. He said "The DS had a headstart but so did the Dreamcast and look what happened there." What he was demonstrating was that it clearly doesn't always matter if you have a headstart, you can still end up getting owned.

This is true. PS2 crushed Dreamcast.
 
i think both the DS and PSP will do very well, but i have a feeling that there will be more games we (as adults, and not interested in licensed games as much) want to play on the PSP.
 
Amir0x said:
No, that's not the point. He said "The DS had a headstart but so did the Dreamcast and look what happened there." What he was demonstrating was that it clearly doesn't always matter if you have a headstart, you can still end up getting owned.

This is true. PS2 crushed Dreamcast.
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To say "look what happened there..." in regards to the Dreamcast is to imply that it died. That's the system's legacy, for better or for worse: A console that was shelved before it's time. It's easy to eclipse a system that's no longer in production. You're running this entirely on hypotheticals, buddy. :P

Anyway, if anyone needs to prove that they know what they're doing in the handheld market, it's Sony. They're the ones who didn't see the iPod coming, and that train had a whistle you could hear 5 miles away.
 
Amir0x said:
*cough*

The fact that SEGA ran out of money is irrelevant because Sony PS2 reamed Dreamcast in sales from the get go. Dreamcast was still alive when Sony came about. It just so happens that the PS2 so utterly raped the DC in sales that it was pointless to continue to hold on by a tiny shred of dirt.

Yes, SEGA bowed out of the competition because they ran out of money. But there's no doubt the PS2 raped the DC and would have continued to even if DC stayed in to 2006.
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Is that so?
The dreamcast was well over 10 million. A number which the gamecube and xbox just reached a year ago. I would think that the dreamcast would be number 2 in numbers if SEGA didn't stop the Dreamcast themselves. SGEA was out of money, otherwise......
 
Makes you wonder though if Sega had stayed in the hardware biz, exactly how much a Dreamcast would cost right now. $49.99 w/two free games?
 
Except I think the headstart isn't quite as big of a deal. Nintendo says they'll ship 4 million DS' by the end of March 2005. Sony is saying 3 million PSPs in the same time frame.

So it's really not a huge gap. Now if DS had launched in say Sept-Nov. 2003, and PSP was just coming out now, that might be more similar to the PS2/XBox analogy.
 
Ruud_Luiten said:
Is that so?
The dreamcast was well over 10 million. A number which the gamecube and xbox just reached a year ago. I would think that the dreamcast would be number 2 in numbers if SEGA didn't stop the Dreamcast themselves. SGEA was out of money, otherwise......
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DC was just under 6 million worldwide when Sega pulled the plug in early 2001 and slashed the price to $49. I think Microsoft would've entered the console market anyway because DC was struggling, and Sega likely would've ended up 4th anyway.
 
soundwave05 said:
Except I think the headstart isn't quite as big of a deal. Nintendo says they'll ship 4 million DS' by the end of March 2005. Sony is saying 3 million PSPs in the same time frame.
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5 million DS units by March 2005 versus 3 (or 3.5 million, can't remember) PSP units actually. Nintendo said they might go higher depending on what they can supply (I think the Sharp screens are holding them back).
 
Still 2 million in the overall scheme of things isn't that huge.

Third parties also know that on the PSP that they don't have to compete with Sony as much as they do with Nintendo on the DS to sell their software. And also the PSP is likely to attract an older demographic which is beneficial to certain publishers.

So I don't think its gonna skew 3rd party support.

Sony could probably sell 5 million units in the same time frame too if they could make that many units.
 
soundwave05 said:
Except I think the headstart isn't quite as big of a deal. Nintendo says they'll ship 4 million DS' by the end of March 2005. Sony is saying 3 million PSPs in the same time frame.

So it's really not a huge gap. Now if DS had launched in say Sept-Nov. 2003, and PSP was just coming out now, that might be more similar to the PS2/XBox analogy.
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I'm actually not quite sure that Sony will meet those shipment goals, myself. Not quite sure though. I'll have a solid opinion by Janruary :)
 
Well yeah essentially it comes down to how many Sony can make.

But the demand is certainly there I think, PSP will sell out (as will DS).

The real question is which system starts to pull ahead say by spring 2005, when the dust has settled, inventory is higher, software libraries begin to soldify, marketing campaigns become more defined, etc.

I think its gonna be the PSP. I really think it's the hardware that will have the biggest impact in 2005.

In the next few months I think you will see a slew of announcements like Resident Evil, Grand Theft Auto, Tekken/Soul Calibur, and full EA backing of the PSP.
 
I wonder why every positive DS thread invites people to troll it? Then again, if the news were negative they'd probably troll it still...lol. Another curious fact of GA culture is that trolling in PSP threads results in swift banning whereas DS threads are free-for-alls. The definition of trolling is also stricter in PSP threads (suggesting the DS will outsell it or that it's battery life is low is trolling in a PSP thread) I guess GAF has spoken. It remains to be seen whether the casual consumer will feel the same way. I don't know how well the PSP will do, but with this kind of start, a strong legacy, and pokemon I don't see how the DS can be anything but a success.
 
Diffense said:
I wonder why every positive DS thread invites people to troll it? Then again, if the news were negative they'd probably troll it still...lol.

Another curious fact of GA culture is that trolling in PSP threads results in swift banning whereas DS threads are free-for-alls. I guess GAF has spoken. It remains to be seen whether the casual consumer will feel the same way. I don't know how well the PSP will do, but with this kind of start, a strong legacy, and pokemon I don't see how the DS can be anything but a success.
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You must not read many PSP threads. There's like eighteen PSP threads filled with trolling with people who are not banned.

For future reference, it's best to do a little research before making such outrageous claims
 
The difference with the GameCube is that system is selling to full market demand right now.

For PSP, the demand is higher than what Sony can supply.
 
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