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Person of Interest – Season 4 |OT| Gods Will Be Watching – Tuesdays 10/9c

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Chariot

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Okay, Person of Interest, you have one fucking episode to get me back on board. Let's see what you got.

. . .

*sigh* okay fine, I guess I'm back in
Always believed in you.

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Lonestar

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I don't blame H-Town for carrying on.

I'd hate to have this hunt me down for failure to watch the rest of POI

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Apoc29

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I feel like Finch is constantly creeped out by Root, but of course he doesn't want any harm to come to her because he's a decent human being.
 

Chariot

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I feel like Finch is constantly creeped out by Root, but of course he doesn't want any harm to come to her because he's a decent human being.
He genuinely cares for her. It's just that she isn't a person that needs much help. I think he is worrying about her the least. She's a computer expert, a grifter and a decent shooter, she is more versatile in escaping danger than Reese and Shaw.
 

Lonestar

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Also liked the little fact that Quinn doesn't die, only because of Reese's profound bloodloss gunking up his gun, making it unable to fire.

Sure, it's a bit of both worlds (in that Reese doesn't just execute a guy, but showed he was going to do it), but I found the way they did it different than cliche, like running out of bullets.
 

Goodstyle

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Relieve the live-hype of the Devil's Share: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=91448122#post91448122

edit: Oh wow. THAT was my comment for that episode?


I ... uh.

OK, was I the only one who picked up on Root's obvious attraction to Shaw by that point? The fact that she was borderline in a romantic relationship with the machine that she only calls "she"? That she kidnapped Harold and threatened Grace's life to get him to cooperate at some point? There was no ship here, and never was.

Yeah, she won't stick around long, not like this. It's good for event episodes for "Lolwuuuut" but it's "real life cheat codes"

So, either at some point, she dies, the computer stops talking to her, or she leaves off on her own to do "Machine Work"

Boy were you wrong about this one lol.
 

Lonestar

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Your post? Lemme see...



OK, was I the only one who picked up on Root's obvious attraction to Shaw by that point? The fact that she was borderline in a romantic relationship with the machine that she only calls "she"? That she kidnapped Harold and threatened Grace's life to get him to cooperate at some point? There was no ship here, and never was.



Boy were you wrong about this one lol.

Well, she does have long disappearances, doing other stuff. She's not constantly around doing her thing (like the "/" episode). But it does help that I don't know if she can just ask for any answer at any point. She's just acting on information as it's given to her.


Also forgot how good the 4 "therapy" scenes were, in showing how far they've actually come, and only from when they started working together on the Numbers.

Oops, as I'm re-reading the old topic, I make this exact same point. :lol
 

Goodstyle

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Well, she does have long disappearances, doing other stuff. She's not constantly around doing her thing (like the "/" episode). But it does help that I don't know if she can just ask for any answer at any point. She's just acting on information as it's given to her.


Also forgot how good the 4 "therapy" scenes were, in showing how far they've actually come, and only from when they started working together on the Numbers.
Speaking of her dipping out, I really like how Root honestly doesn't care about the nonrelevant numbers. She came far sure, but she's still kind of a shitty person.
 

Lonestar

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Speaking of her dipping out, I really like how Root honestly doesn't care about the nonrelevant numbers. She came far sure, but she's still kind of a shitty person.

At this point, I still only think she cares for 3 things. The Machine, Shaw, and Finch. She'll help others out, like Reese and Fusco, but when those 3 are in trouble, you see panic and desperation creep in (Everything Post Shaw screams this; Root's Panic when Harold gets electrocuted in the last episode).

Feels strange to spoiler tag already aired stuff, but since the Netflix POI topic kind of died, spilling back into this topic, guess it had to be done.
 

Sober

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Okay, Person of Interest, you have one fucking episode to get me back on board. Let's see what you got.

. . .

*sigh* okay fine, I guess I'm back in
Don't worry you'll also cry the dozen or so times they remember Carter this season and the next, because she stays with them.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Reese is broken. :(

Also, we going full sci-fi apparently with what looks like a setup for a second AI

poor Root's ear :(

Shaw continues to make me smile

Fusco is great
 

Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
If Gods were kind we would have gotten a super darkly humorous
Fusco x Scarface
-centric episode while Reese and Elias were fixing some shit behind the scenes.

Alas...
 

Frog-fu

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Okay, Person of Interest, you have one fucking episode to get me back on board. Let's see what you got.

. . .

*sigh* okay fine, I guess I'm back in

It's cute you think you had a choice in the matter.

I don't blame H-Town for carrying on.

I'd hate to have this hunt me down for failure to watch the rest of POI

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This was actually pretty chilling the first time I saw it.

John effectively burned a man alive. That's fucking hardcore.


lol, aaaand saved.
 
So I guess Harold plays a lot of flight sims in his off hours?

The way that whole thing worked out actually irked the hell out of me. It's not good writing to solve the episode's problem by saying one of your characters has a hobby/skill that we've never seen before but is just PERFECT for this scenario.
 

Lonestar

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So I guess Harold plays a lot of flight sims in his off hours?

Not the best moment of the series, but Harold has flown before (the serial killer in the hurricane episode) and I want to say at some point, either in this episode or a previous one, you could spot the flight stick controller.

But still, I don't know what kind of latency you'd need to land a jumbo jet 1000+ miles away. That's the part that gets me.

Just chalk it down to being a quirky episode with some fun but stupid stuff.
 

ZenaxPure

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Just chalk it down to being a quirky episode with some fun but stupid stuff.

4C was a comedy episode through and through. There are a ton of jokes through the entire thing.

I think my personal favorite is when John sits down next to the old lady and she is complaining about how flying used to be better in the past "I'm not saying a man has to wear a suit."

The look on his face, too good.
 

hemtae

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The way that whole thing worked out actually irked the hell out of me. It's not good writing to solve the episode's problem by saying one of your characters has a hobby/skill that we've never seen before but is just PERFECT for this scenario.

I think it was revealed that Harold liked flying prop planes on the episode where they were all trapped on an island because of a storm.
 
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4C was a comedy episode through and through. There are a ton of jokes through the entire thing.

It was only fair after how serious the previous episodes were, if you don't take in account Fusco.
 

ZenaxPure

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I think it was revealed that Harold liked flying prop planes on the episode where they were all trapped on an island because of a storm.

Yeah this too. I can understand (except not really) being upset that he used some video game flight stick to fly a plane on the other side of the planet but getting mad at this makes 0 sense considering there was an episode previously where we saw Finch fly a plane. It didn't come out of no where.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Yeah this too. I can understand (except not really) being upset that he used some video game flight stick to fly a plane on the other side of the planet but getting mad at this makes 0 sense considering there was an episode previously where we saw Finch fly a plane. It didn't come out of no where.

I'm not mad that he knows how to fly a plane. I thought it was silly that he had a flight stick randomly under his hacker station and could just plug that sucker into the plane over satellite or something.

also with the way he was shaking when pulling the stick back that must have been some kickass force feedback or some shit
 
Htown now that you have seen THE trilogy of eps that everyone was crazy about could you go little more in depth of how that felt and how it compairs to other shows?
Also what did you think about the music? :D
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Just saw "RAM". Now there's a flashback for you.

Not sure I'm clear on the timeline and how harold knew of Reese before that day, but I'm probably forgetting something.

I thought it filled out past events nicely, and explained why Harold was so keen on having Reese work for him in the first place. The one thing I didn't like was Shaw's involvement. Made it seem a little too neat that everybody was involved that one night. It was unnecessary.
 

Lonestar

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Just saw "RAM". Now there's a flashback for you.

Not sure I'm clear on the timeline and how harold knew of Reese before that day, but I'm probably forgetting something.

I thought it filled out past events nicely, and explained why Harold was so keen on having Reese work for him in the first place. The one thing I didn't like was Shaw's involvement. Made it seem a little too neat that everybody was involved that one night. It was unnecessary.

Shaw was known as the top operator of the "relevant" side, and this was around the timeframe of the early actions of her group (ISA). The show has never went into detail of how many operators are involved in that kind of work. Think she was "Indigo 5" and the guy on the plane in "4C" was "Indigo 6", so that at least implies 6 people.
 

Aselith

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Just saw "RAM". Now there's a flashback for you.

Not sure I'm clear on the timeline and how harold knew of Reese before that day, but I'm probably forgetting something.

I thought it filled out past events nicely, and explained why Harold was so keen on having Reese work for him in the first place. The one thing I didn't like was Shaw's involvement. Made it seem a little too neat that everybody was involved that one night. It was unnecessary.

I don't think it's been explained yet how Harold knew he was CIA at that point. Still waiting for season 4 maybe everything is explained there. :/

Nutflex pls

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4C was a dumb episode. Harold flying the plane is living down to CBS standards.

I always assumed Harold knew about Reese because of Jessica. The Machine gives Harold her number. I can't even remember which episode this is now, but there's a point in the series (it was before S4, because I remember it was in the library) where Reese discovers this secret (that both The Machine and Harold knew Jessica was going to die), but he never talks to Harold about it. At least not directly. They have conversations where Harold apologizes generally for the state of things, and Reese absolves him. By the end of S4, I think Harold and Reese are pretty cool with everything that has happened between them and in the past.
 

Aselith

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4C was a dumb episode. Harold flying the plane is living down to CBS standards.

I always assumed Harold knew about Reese because of Jessica. The Machine gives Harold her number. I can't even remember which episode this is now, but there's a point in the series (it was before S4, because I remember it was in the library) where Reese discovers this secret (that both The Machine and Harold knew Jessica was going to die), but he never talks to Harold about it. At least not directly. They have conversations where Harold apologizes generally for the state of things, and Reese absolves him. By the end of S4, I think Harold and Reese are pretty cool with everything that has happened between them and in the past.

Oh yeah, you're right. Reese asks him if he got her number and if I recall correctly Harold doesn't respond but looks extremely uncomfortable about it.

Edit: Yeah, here it is.

http://www.tv.com/news/person-of-interest-lets-rip-open-some-old-wounds-shall-we-28568/

Although timeline-wise would that fall before or after the China mission? I'm pretty sure he spiraled out due to the death of Jessica so then wouldn't that place her death after that flashback? Thinking about it, yeah it definitely does. However maybe he had looked into Jessica due to the number which led him to look at John?
 
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Because he already recognized him in RAM. I really need to do a rewatch of this show.

I just googled this to try to get an answer but yeah apparently RAM introduced some problems in the timeline (e.g. Reese is still in the CIA at this point, but he was actually supposed to have left by then: the original date of the Ordos mission was May 2010, but Natham Ingram didn't die until September of the same year, so RAM necessarily has to occur after that).
 

Lonestar

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The episode with the Marshall stalking his wife, somewhere in there I believe Harold talks about how the Machine sometimes would put out the same number multiple times (i.e. reoccurring domestic violence), leading to the belief he was talking about Jessica's number showing up more than once. If her experience lead Harold to this realization, he probably researched her a bit more closely, though I imagine he was in bad shape, post-explosion, and couldn't do much to save her.

I imagine in all this, lead to finding out about people she interacted with, including John.
 
Just finished the first season. Wow, this show is awesome, and that finale was amazing. I knew root was gonna show up at some point, but I was not expecting her to be who she turned out to be. I'm a little confused who John was talking to at the end, though. And the music in the last few minutes of the finale was so, so good.

Also, that new show with Wesley Snipes, The Player, is so similar to PoI that I feel I must watch it as well.
 
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