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Persona Community Thread |OT4| The Golden Number
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I'm okay with this.
I definitely think it's because it's not direct feed. The blur on it makes it look sketchier/muddier like promo art for Metal Gear or something, which isn't how Soejima draws promo stuff.
Also, perfect response.
Edit: Rise could never live up to Junpei!
Reanimatoin
Member
I'm in England and some professional football (soccer) managers wear their club tracksuits to games. Its not beyond the realm of reality.
animaSerah
Member
That's exactly what the little league coaches here do, so I guess I don't see anything wrong with it. Just like in the MLB, coaches where the uniform to show that they are also part of the team.
I think THE DARK KNIGHT RISE would work better, but I like it.
buddha0991
Member
He was in Inaba when all this stuff is going down purely by chance, of course he isn't prepared.
ZALGOOOOO
Oh ok. So how is he going to fight without his evoker? Oh wait they will be in tv world again right? So I imagine he could do the card thing.
Reanimatoin
Member
Not in the TV world this time. It is possible to summon a persona without an evoker, the evoker just makes it easier.
I'm guessing whatever supernatural thing going on is going to allow them to summon their Persona. P4 need a method as much as Junpei. Trying really hard would be a pretty weak plot point.
DryEyeRelief
Member
I kinda don't want to beat The Answer because I'll effectively be *finished* and that'll be sad.
Oh well, the sooner I do it the sooner I can start complaining about P4A's story mode along with you guys.
Oh well, the sooner I do it the sooner I can start complaining about P4A's story mode along with you guys.
sackboy2197
Member
We don't even have a release date, do we?
I'm curious to see all the other stuff; hopefully they don't talk only about P4U.
Green Mamba
Member
Junpei's entire character design (both gameplay and visual) in Ultimax being based on something he mentioned off hand like... twice (maybe) in P3 is pretty dumb. Really, all the P3 character designs in Arena are dumb (discounting Aigis who's hardly any different)--designed to be goofy fighting game characters first, proper evolutions of their original characters a distant second. Wonder what Ken will look like.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Junpei's just that manly.
This news is super-hype, though. If the Social Link mode is good, I can see this game being my most-played fighting game since UMvC3.
Reanimatoin
Member
Oh definitely, I imagine the red fog will have something to do with it. It'll be good to see the P4 guys reaction to being able to summon outside the TV.
NOPE! We've had jack all info for SMT 4 in the UK.
buddha0991
Member
;_;
SloaneRisette
Member
It'll all be revealed in Persona 5
DryEyeRelief
Member
You mean baseball? It makes more sense than..Yukari's current occupation. Junpei wore a baseball cap, held his sword like a baseball bat, yelled "HOME RUN" when you scored critical.
LelouchViBritannia
Member
Either it wont come out, or if it does, it will be digital only. It is Nintendo we're talking about after all.
Alright.
Oh man, this is pretty great. I'm kinda wondering how this Social Link system is going to work. Like, are they actual social links or are they just named as such? I'm having my doubts that 'actual' social links will be written, at least. Too many possible permutations. I'm just wondering, like, can you like... play Rise, and have Rise as your voice navigator? I'm confused.
Either way, totally maining Rise if Yosuke doesn't pan out for me.
...oh, and yeah. Old story format isn't great. Kinda confuses me why they even bother. Surely it'd be less work to write one or two consistent stories.
Either way, totally maining Rise if Yosuke doesn't pan out for me.
...oh, and yeah. Old story format isn't great. Kinda confuses me why they even bother. Surely it'd be less work to write one or two consistent stories.
buddha0991
Member
nou
Reanimatoin
Member
He also has a monologue where he says that his dream was to be a professional baseball player. Da Man is all about the baseball! Always has been.
Just anything would be nice........ anything.
Spectrasonic
Member
Hoping finishing social link mode gives access to the P4 cast's ultimate personas
A man can dream
SloaneRisette
Member
Video games are dumb I'm just going to collect Persona 4 stamps.
Green Mamba
Member
Still seems like a rather extreme measure to go when there was a lot more to him than that.
Hey, I know what I like and I know what I don't like, and I know I don't like characters being turned into silly caricatures in something that is supposedly canon.
Well, to be fair:
- His fighting stance was reminiscent of a baseball player going up to bat
- He swung his sword like a baseball bat
- He dreamed of being a baseball player as a kid
- He's always wearing a baseball cap
- He's very fond of baseball (as shown in the drama CDs)
- "HAH! TAKE THAT!" "HOMERUN!"
It's honestly preferable to Junpei fighting in casual wear/using a sword.
Yeah I'm not seeing how Junpei's new design is extremely far off than what was built up in the original game.
The fact that he's a little league coach kinda makes sense too due to his relationship with his father so I can see him wanting to be a father figure to kids in similar situations.
The fact that he's a little league coach kinda makes sense too due to his relationship with his father so I can see him wanting to be a father figure to kids in similar situations.
Not being in the tv world makes me much more interested in the story. Hopefully the story is good.
LelouchViBritannia
Member
if they remove the inner dialog crap and add another gameplay element into the mix, then it could be enjoyable. (Visit certain areas at your own freewill, speak to various npcs, etc)
At least the story makes fun of it from time to time. Like everyone piles on Akihiko for his cape, but Aigis points out to Mitsuru they hardly have any grounds to do so. Although frankly I think Aigis looks better with a necktie than a bow because I think neckties > bowties anyway.
Lord Scrambles
Member
Very doubtful
It'll most likely have the same format as Arena 1, which is a huge bummer. I barely made it through last time.
Green Mamba
Member
I don't have a problem with Junpei's career choice at all, I'm just disappointed that it permeates absolutely everything about him, to the point that he has a baseball scorecard on his HUD. It's all very one-track and single-minded and a poor representation of Junpei as a whole. It'd be like if Chie had steak she had to consume mid-battle to power her up or something. He's still better off than Yukari though. And the less said about Mitsuru and Akihiko the better.
EDIT: I take character design pretty seriously if you can guess.
I think it's funny in a way how the game makes fun of Akihiko's design. It's like they knew they did wrong on him from the get go.
EDIT: I take character design pretty seriously if you can guess.
This applies to a lot of the design of Arena, and I think it was probably intentional. A lot of the presentation is very garish and loud, but I think it's all meant to give it an arcadey feel.
Unfortunately, this makes it feel not very much like a Persona game to me, but whatever innit.
LegionAgent
Member
Whoa there buddy, you're starting with something way too hardcore, maybe bottlecaps first
Phantasmal Repose
Member
Bottlecaps are the way to go. You gotta prepare for the future.
Reanimatoin
Member
I think, and I know this is the Persona thread so views may be skewed, but Arena is clearly a fighting game first and a Persona game second.
The things they did right about it are;
First, make a good fighting game. Swap out the characters for blank slates and remove the story and the actual game is still really good mechanically.
Secondly, Make it a different genre to Persona normal. By making it a fighting game, even though it is technically canon, it can still be seen more broadly as a spin-off (ala Dirge of Cerberus, bad game I know but its hard to think of a better example) rather than a direct sequel (ala FFX-2).
Third, Make the Persona content not make the source material worse. Although Ultimax has a certain character that could screw this up (
), Arena being around doesnt make P4 a worse game.
Honestly, I like Arena. Its not perfect but its a fun game that continues a story I like with characters I like. I dont find anything wrong with Arena's story content, just the way in which its presented is too convoluted.
The amount of bashing on the game in this thread is almost at certain character hate level, just give it a rest. If you dont like the game, fine, but dont scream your opinion around and expect everyone to agree with you and say they are the ones who are wrong when they dont.
If you have a problem with anything that you want discussion on then at least present it in a way that allows for discussion and not arguments. Saying "Arena sucks because it does" is worthless.
The things they did right about it are;
First, make a good fighting game. Swap out the characters for blank slates and remove the story and the actual game is still really good mechanically.
Secondly, Make it a different genre to Persona normal. By making it a fighting game, even though it is technically canon, it can still be seen more broadly as a spin-off (ala Dirge of Cerberus, bad game I know but its hard to think of a better example) rather than a direct sequel (ala FFX-2).
Third, Make the Persona content not make the source material worse. Although Ultimax has a certain character that could screw this up (
Adachi
Honestly, I like Arena. Its not perfect but its a fun game that continues a story I like with characters I like. I dont find anything wrong with Arena's story content, just the way in which its presented is too convoluted.
The amount of bashing on the game in this thread is almost at certain character hate level, just give it a rest. If you dont like the game, fine, but dont scream your opinion around and expect everyone to agree with you and say they are the ones who are wrong when they dont.
If you have a problem with anything that you want discussion on then at least present it in a way that allows for discussion and not arguments. Saying "Arena sucks because it does" is worthless.
Wut.
Most people in the thread like Arena, you sausage, you.
This is a weird post. Turns strangely aggressive for no reason. You're not coming to my birthday party.
LelouchViBritannia
Member
Arena is my favorite fighting game this generation. I'll defend it until the cows come home in terms of mechanics and gameplay etc.
However, from what ive played of the story, its clear that it needs to be redone. The same "story" for every character and continuous inner dialog is a real pain. My only gripe with ultimax is the entire
situation. He most definetly should be playable. To hell with bein an NPC.
However, from what ive played of the story, its clear that it needs to be redone. The same "story" for every character and continuous inner dialog is a real pain. My only gripe with ultimax is the entire
Adachi
DryEyeRelief
Member
Oh, I see. I agree with you there
Red The Hunter
Member
Okay since we have had some time since this last night, I'm gonna gather all the proposed OT5 names together so we can have a vote on them.
The nominees are
How this is gonna go, each of us will get to pick one as our vote for the thread title.
Either in the thread, or by as a PM to me, though if do it through PM please specify that it's your vote for OT5 Title in the PM description or I won't count it. I will tally up the votes and send it to Dantis .
The voting for this will end tonight at 12AM PST. So have fun.
The nominees are
- The Long Awaited Entry Is Here
- Rated M...Maybe
- Wow, This Thread is Megidolaon Cute
- Ultra Suplex Hold Edition
- PGAF Q, PGAFing All Night and PGAF Arena: The Ultimeh.
- Shin Megami Senpai
- TAKE A CHASTITY BELT AND SIDDOWN
- Never doubt Prophetwicks you heathens
- Rise of The Machines
- Social Link, GO
How this is gonna go, each of us will get to pick one as our vote for the thread title.
Either in the thread, or by as a PM to me, though if do it through PM please specify that it's your vote for OT5 Title in the PM description or I won't count it. I will tally up the votes and send it to Dantis .
The voting for this will end tonight at 12AM PST. So have fun.
OR we could just do what we've always done and choose one at the last minute.
I like that idea. Let's do that.
Reanimatoin
Member
Reading it back, I probably should have stopped before the last 2 paragraphs, does seem like I got a bit agitated towards the end there.
In my head the negative people are always the ones that stand out more, guess thats why my view was a bit squiffy.
Can I come if I bring jelly and ice cream?
Green Mamba
Member
I actually really like the gameplay of Arena. I just think it's a poor attempt at universe expansion by trying to clumsily fit itself into canon and warping the only real outlet the P3 characters have in the future of the series.
It's a fine fighting game but a poor expansion and exploration of the established setting and characters. I think it would have been better off as a story-less crossover fighter.
It's a fine fighting game but a poor expansion and exploration of the established setting and characters. I think it would have been better off as a story-less crossover fighter.
I actually like Rise of the Machines. Fits the whole Rise thing and deals with the growing number of toasters we're getting in this series.
SloaneRisette
Member
If you all actually want to hold a vote, I've no problem with it.
You'd best move fast though. Time is running out.
If you don't choose mine (long awaited entry) I'll be really sad Dan-chan
How about 'Persona Community Thread |OT5| Pull up a chair!'?
I don't think there's many that disagree. It's just that we also stopped caring at some point. For all intents and purposes, it's essentially fan-fiction in my eyes. Neat that it exists, but it's not going to retroactively change how I view the series or the characters in it.
I wish it was better written, it certainly does a disservice to the source material. But at the same time I can punch Yu in the face with Yosuke and that's pretty great.