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Persona Community Thread |OT7| P5 is nyaow. (Mark all PQ and P4U spoilers!)
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Agreed.
Cannon_Fodder
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Hey, new OT.
One thing I really enjoyed about the Persona 5 mention at the presser was how enthusiastically the crowd responded to it. Pretty nice to hear.
One thing I really enjoyed about the Persona 5 mention at the presser was how enthusiastically the crowd responded to it. Pretty nice to hear.
Made another one of these dumb things.
Adam's in danger. We have to help guys!
Made another one of these dumb things.
Jesus christ, this made me laugh so hard
Made another one of these dumb things.
It needs subtitles for maximum effectiveness. Dat Boyes trolling.
A Dead Diehard
Member
There's already subtlety, it's the lack of subs.
I dunno. I feel it loses something without the dialogue. The way Boyes delivered his lines, especially about it being "sometime after the Japanese release" followed by quickly moving on...
Hikami
Member
Wasn't really surprised that we hardly saw anything on Persona 5 at PSX, still doesn't make me any less excited for it though.
Just gotta get through finals this week then I can Persona all I want.
Yep.. I played it for a day or two after I got it on release day but haven't been able to play it since then..
Just gotta get through finals this week then I can Persona all I want.
UltraGunner
Banned
Made another one of these dumb things.
Adam best keep clear of any fishy look dudes
Petrock123
Member
I think she did since she makes a remark about smacking P3MC with the compendium for carrying her. My guess is that the dialogue is reused, which may have been a bit of an oversight since with the characters in the team it would make sense that they couldn't take on the boss alone, but not with Margaret. Still a good scene though, plus I was reminded that Margaret would occasionally make lame puns/jokes.
sackboy2197
Member
This new threads seem to be coming so fast!
atlusprime
Atlus PR
Holy shit you guys. At a PSX event and someone introduced me to a big Persona fan. Talked to her for like 10 minutes before she had to leave, COMPLETELY IGNORANT TO THE FACT IT WAS LAURA BAILEY.
Awaiting punishment.
Awaiting punishment.
This game isn't like the mainline Persona games where your skills rule over everything. The standard attack *IS* useful. Likewise, you don't design your party around your protagonist like you do in Persona 3 or Persona 4.
How are you approaching enemies? Who are you using in your party? What's your formation? Are you keeping your equipment relatively up to date? Making use of Navigator skills? You'll eventually unlock sub-personas on the second floor, so that'll help a lot too.
atlusprime just shot himself in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about voice acting culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is with regular fans where you can become successful by being ignorant! If you fail to recognize someone who is a famous voice actor, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is that voice actors, after hearing about this, are not going to want to work with Atlus for any system, nor will they purchase any of Atlus's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but atlusprime has alienated an entire market with this move.
atlusprime, publicly apologize and listen to True Story in english or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Senpaiiiiiii~
BUT WILL SHO BE IN IT? HMMM?
AAAAAH
EXACTLY.
Should've thought of a better one then.
Couldn't find a source, but this was way too good to pass up
This is great.
Mine approach is something like that:
- first time i saw enemy I try to spot his weakness
- then I try to deal with enemy front line by using weaknesses i discover
- atm my formation looks like that. front line: Yu, Chie, Kanji, Back line: Yukiko and Zen/Rei
- weapons it's up to date, armor near that state
- sub-personas is a great mechanics, need fuse more to find the right combination
Sooo fake ....but soooo goood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi0CdLlPhMs
My first post btw hi everyone , diary reader since OTP 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi0CdLlPhMs
My first post btw hi everyone , diary reader since OTP 4.
Your formation is okay, but it's kinda front loaded. Two Electricity users, and early on you've got some redundancy in the physical department as I'm sure your sub-persons aren't covering all your weaknesses just yet. Zen and Rei are fantastic, but you also likely have no instant kills at your disposal, so that can make dealing with pesky enemies (especially in the back row!) a bit of an issue. Naoto is godlike, and tied with Aigis for the game's best party member. Don't be afraid to use her and have her take out enemies that are troubling you in a fight.
Biggest thing to remember, however, is that this is not like Persona 3 and Persona 4. You often do not even need to go for the weaknesses. The boost effect is nice (free healing!), but is in no way mandatory, and you can't easily supress turns like you can in the One More! system. Sometimes, using the more powerful skill is a better choice. Physical skills and status effects are very effective here, and you can score critical hits with the former. Especially if you're using members with high luck. Curse and Poison specifically are very strong early on. I don't remember if Zen starts with his physical skill that curses, but try to use it if he has it. Nothing is more awesome than watching your enemies take half the damage they dish out back at you.
I remember early on I was trying to fuse my Sub-Personas like I did in P3 and P4. Trying to cover specific niches in order to account for weaknesses, like a persona with all four elements, a support Persona, a healing Persona, etc.... It wasn't very effective. When I realized this, and instead started building Personas to supplement the party members and their existing skills with less regard to weaknesses, things went a LOT smoother.
Your formation is okay, but it's kinda front loaded. Two Electricity users, and early on you've got some redundancy in the physical department as I'm sure your sub-persons aren't covering all your weaknesses just yet. Zen and Rei are fantastic, but you also likely have no instant kills at your disposal, so that can make dealing with pesky enemies (especially in the back row!) a bit of an issue. Naoto is godlike, and tied with Aigis for the game's best party member. Don't be afraid to use her and have her take out enemies that are troubling you in a fight.
Biggest thing to remember, however, is that this is not like Persona 3 and Persona 4. You often do not even need to go for the weaknesses. The boost effect is nice (free healing!), but is in no way mandatory, and you can't easily supress turns like you can in the One More! system. Sometimes, using the more powerful skill is a better choice. Physical skills and status effects are very effective here, and you can score critical hits with the former. Especially if you're using members with high luck. Curse and Poison specifically are very strong early on. I don't remember if Zen starts with his physical skill that curses, but try to use it if he has it. Nothing is more awesome than watching your enemies take half the damage they dish out back at you.
I remember early on I was trying to fuse my Sub-Personas like I did in P3 and P4. Trying to cover specific niches in order to account for weaknesses, like a persona with all four elements, a support Persona, a healing Persona, etc.... It wasn't very effective. When I realized this, and instead started building Personas to supplement the party members and their existing skills with less regard to weaknesses, things went a LOT smoother.
Thanks!! But I have a question its ok to put Naoto in to the front line or it's better to swotch Kanju with Yosuke, I have garu on 1 of the sub-personas, but i think on the main one this will be more usefull
Doesn't matter for Naoto. Her standard attack is ranged. You can put her anywhere you want. Back row has reduced damage tho.
Welcome! If you've been browsing since the 4th thread, you're probably well aware of the insanity here
I'm saying you're insane already
atlusprime
Atlus PR
I did. things were explained. it's cool.
atlusprime
Atlus PR
I feel like the meme I was referencing got lost, sadly.
It totally did. I'm still pretty lit.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Made another one of these dumb things.
Perfect.
Great title btw.
Looks like our next stop on the Persona 5 train is Feb.
names2hard4you
Member
I'm still going to be very cautious about my expectations for that day. I mean this is a live musical, so I'm expecting, like many of you have said, a song or two from the game and that's that.
That, or like I said, a stealth announcement at the end of the show saying that the game is available for sale throwing the crowd into a frenzy. Eh.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Eh... I wouldn't say that you don't need to go for weaknesses. You really need boost mode for all out attacks and getting persona cards for fusing/sacrificing.
Boosts help mostly in dungeon crawling to me. I never run out of resources since I'm always using boosted physical attacks/magic attacks. I hated that character element spells get upgraded automatically until I realized I could just have the lesser ability on a sub persona. I'm not against using an Agi on turn one on Yukiko to then use a free cast Agilao on turn two and save the 20 SP.
Party is Yu/Chie/Kanji Yukiko/Yukari, so I just heal ALL the things. Gave Yukiko the Recarm skill card early, just got a sub persona on Yukari that got Recarm and inherited Me Patra, so pretty solid atm.
Physical is just so damn broken in the game though. That you can dish out elemental damage with physical attacks is all the more silly. I love that I can have Yu be the EO4 Lands by having a persona with an elemental link + link boost. Bonus points for me giving him the skill that lets him follow up attacks too.
I was expecting PQ to be fun to both play and experience, but it's rare to see a mashup like that that makes both parts better for it. Always kind of felt that hitting an elemental weakness in EO didn't do enough.
Party is Yu/Chie/Kanji Yukiko/Yukari, so I just heal ALL the things. Gave Yukiko the Recarm skill card early, just got a sub persona on Yukari that got Recarm and inherited Me Patra, so pretty solid atm.
Physical is just so damn broken in the game though. That you can dish out elemental damage with physical attacks is all the more silly. I love that I can have Yu be the EO4 Lands by having a persona with an elemental link + link boost. Bonus points for me giving him the skill that lets him follow up attacks too.
I was expecting PQ to be fun to both play and experience, but it's rare to see a mashup like that that makes both parts better for it. Always kind of felt that hitting an elemental weakness in EO didn't do enough.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Oh shit, new OT?! lol
A Dead Diehard
Member
Oh, goddammit...
Dragon1893
Member
Where 7 also comes before 5 lol. We'll probably get to 8 before we get P5.
names2hard4you
Member
Oh now that's for sure.
names2hard4you
Member
May Persona 5 be in our prayers every monday night until it eventually drops.
A Dead Diehard
Member
You know, even though it was a letdown, I'm grateful that Adam Boyes didn't take the time to make a 'best girl' comment at the keynote, nor did anyone in the audience. Good show.
doctorblurg
Banned
Do you think Boyes is aware of the intense waifu wars? Or if he himself is a waifu warrior? I'm kinda curious.
Vox Chaotica
Member
I like to imagine that Sony exec conferences ultimately end up as a massive argument over who is the best Persona girl, with financial decisions tied to whomever wins.
Stop this.
RIP
He probably PLAYS the games instead of arguing back and forth over an imaginary girl. Hah, what a nerd!
doctorblurg
Banned
These higher ups of companies never understand the TRUE meaning for some video games
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