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[Soulflarz]

so uh
is this where I casually say that making people tag 'spoilers' for a game that hasn't come out yet because you want to media blackout the game is kind of silly? :x

Spoiler

dunno why youd go in a series community thread if you're on a media blackout

And before someone says 'you don't even read PGAF', I stopped reading PGAF because I was called a fucking idiot/fucking retard (I forget tbh :x) for voicing my opinion on the topic forever ago, so don't throw that out there.

edit: ETDP delivers again

 

[Drop]

Perfect.

 

[cj_iwakura]

so uh
is this where I casually say that making people tag 'spoilers' for a game that hasn't come out yet because you want to media blackout the game is kind of silly? :x

Spoiler

dunno why youd go in a series community thread if you're on a media blackout

edit: ETDP delivers again

I don't agree with tagging spoilers from P5 previews in a community thread, in fact I think it's kind of silly, but I can go with it. You sure won't see me saying without tags stuff like

Spoiler

x dies

, which I think is just mean, but to me an optional boss is a minor thing. That's just my opinion though.

I do think a community thread is more of an 'open season' atmosphere, otherwise you wouldn't see rampant **actual Danganronpa spoiler**

Spoiler

Junko FUCKING ENOSHIMA

art in Danganronpa threads.

It's not just my personal opinion here, it's the atmosphere with other communities I participate in. You try to be nice about major things, but minor stuff like optional bosses is pretty widely accepted. Heck, we openly talk about the culprit at PA. If someone shows up like 'hey I'm playing P4 for the first time', then we'd tone it back.

 

[Seda]

It's not just my personal opinion here, it's the atmosphere with other communities I participate in. You try to be nice about major things, but minor stuff like optional bosses is pretty widely accepted. Heck, we openly talk about the culprit at PA. If someone shows up like 'hey I'm playing P4 for the first time', then we'd tone it back.

I think this is also part of it, yeah. While some other communities aren't as active, usually spoiler rules seem lenient for all but the most recent game in the respective franchise. People discuss most Fire Emblem spoilers openly in that thread, anything Final Fantasy seems to be fair game there, & Kingdom Hearts crazy plot points. Obviously sometimes people tag the most notable plot twists out of consideration or habit though.

 

[QuadOpto]

Uh...So...

Before that happened, I don't think we got an answer to what

this is.

I'm guessing there's probably not much info on it at the moment, but where did you find it, Flux?

 

[Bowlie]

Yeah, I tried to search for it but found nothing too.

 

[Makio]

So hi guys what is the topic today ......

(The Atlus World is like the Fine Bros stuff they going to trademark the words "Persona" and "Waifu").

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

An SMT/Persona party game?

 

[Sophia]

I think this is also part of it, yeah. While some other communities aren't as active, usually spoiler rules seem lenient for all but the most recent game in the respective franchise. People discuss most Fire Emblem spoilers openly in that thread, anything Final Fantasy seems to be fair game there, & Kingdom Hearts crazy plot points. Obviously sometimes people tag the most notable plot twists out of consideration or habit though.

All I'll say is that we do get a significant number of new people in this thread who are playing Persona 3 or Persona 4 for the first time, especially due to the re-releases and generous Atlus sales that don't happen as often as with any of the franchises you mentioned. It's one thing for like mentioning a casual boss name or something like "Naoto is a girl", which everyone knows. But I'm of the opinion that endgame stuff should generally be properly spoiler tagged. And that should include bonus bosses that are semi-relevant support story characters for most of the game. If we didn't have the (MAJOR ENDGAME P4 SPOILERS)

Spoiler

Adachi spoiler tag rule

, for example, then someone passing by the thread to talk about how they're playing could effectively have the whole mystery spoiled for them. They'd also probably be less likely to enter the thread.

Most importantly however, besides the Breaking Bad spoiler, what I really take issue with myself are responses like what Iwakura told Funyarinpa earlier in the thread, causing Funyarinpa to leave the thread until he was done with Persona 3. That, I think, is uncalled for. It wasn't really necessary to dismiss him just like that. I won't say I'm completely innocent of these kind of responses myself; heck just ask anyone who regularly talks to me, but I do think that whole situation and esculation probably could have been avoided by saying "Sorry, didn't realize you were in the middle of a playthrough", spoiler tagging it, and moving on.

Seeing as you yourself noted that the rules are set by the people of the community, perhaps it would be best to have a discussion (when Dantis gets back from his ban) in regards to what should be the acceptable rule. The opening posts needs an update anyhow, so it'd be perfect time to bring up the discussion later. Providing it can be done so civilly and without going on a tangent. But I'll leave it at that for right now.

Uh...So...

Before that happened, I don't think we got an answer to what



this is.

I'm guessing there's probably not much info on it at the moment, but where did you find it, Flux?

I think he just made it? Not sure.... Flux didn't clarify, oddly. ;

 

[Soulflarz]

All I'll say is that we do get a significant number of new people in this thread who are playing Persona 3 or Persona 4 for the first time, especially due to the re-releases and generous Atlus sales that don't happen as often as with any of the franchises you mentioned. It's one thing for like mentioning a casual boss name or something like "Naoto is a girl", which everyone knows. But I'm of the opinion that endgame stuff should generally be properly spoiler tagged. And that should include bonus bosses that are semi-relevant support story characters for most of the game. If we didn't have the (MAJOR ENDGAME P4 SPOILERS)

Spoiler

Adachi spoiler tag rule

, for example, then someone passing by the thread to talk about how they're playing could effectively have the whole mystery spoiled for them. They'd also probably be less likely to enter the thread.

Yeah but the spoiler rule is much more vague than this and situational to be called out randomly, and in most cases doesn't affect anyone.

For example, I don't think you can say Naoto is a girl openly but be mad over saying Elizabeth is a superboss-- one of those has a clear plot implication

Spoiler

even if obvious to the point where I didn't know it was a plot point really

while the other doesn't matter in the slightest in comparison.

No ones saying big spoilers untagged, I hope. But that's different from me saying laughing table is obnoxious, some people hated it, or that Demi Fiend has a cameo fight in DDS.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I've always been of the opinion that having to tread around posting new promotional media for Persona 5 (or any upcoming Persona game) is silly but, whatever, that's the rule. However, if that's the rule, it should also be enforced. There've been people who have argued for the rule who have themselves gone against it in this thread.

I think he just made it? Not sure.... Flux didn't clarify, oddly. ;

Nope, I said it was official.

Some of you have got to improve your search powers. Answer: "Atlus World" is an official trademark for Japanese classification 35 (advertising and business) and 41 (entertainment) applied for in December 2007. I posted it in the thread for nothing.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

The AV Club always did seem a bit on the douchey side.

Actually the editorial doesn't match the tone of the messenger. Though it hardly works as justification.

like this excerpt

Instead, think about how those violently opposed to spoilers tend to debate what’s acceptable to know before they’ve viewed it.

As opposed to someone else deciding for you.



When Charles Dickens was giving away major plot points in his chapter titles, it wasn’t because he was a dick; it was because his readers knew that the real fun was in reading his prose, in absorbing and enjoying his words. Anti-spoiler zealots largely ignore craft, privileging plot above all else.

Well that is because, by design, you're supposed to know what will happen ahead of time. It's very much like how television episodes have titles with important references. Another example is if the entire story leading up to the end is actually a flashback.

But I find these assertions funny. If you value a creator's intent and craft, then obviously you would care about spoilers. Caring about spoilers means caring about consuming the media as it was intended.

Dan Slott for instance, a writer for Spider-Man, tells his fans to not read the previews for his comic books. The previews, out of slott's hands, spoil events in order to sell more books. He's very vocal about people reading his stories with fresh eyes, even if it means affecting the bottom line.

Obviously he isn't a unique case. I think any artist/writer wants people to read their story and experience the events...in order. I mean if these people get mad over it, then I'm sure the creators do. If a plot twist is the only thing valuable in a story, that doesn't make it shit. That just makes it a different form of entertainment. And you want to stomp all over it because you want the right-of-way to act pretentious on the internet. lol

 

[cj_iwakura]

I've always been of the opinion that having to tread around posting new promotional media for Persona 5 (or any upcoming Persona game) is silly but, whatever, that's the rule. However, if that's the rule, it should also be enforced. There've been people who have argued for the rule who have themselves gone against it in this thread.

Then I think the community should come to a consensus, rather than one person deciding for everyone.

 

[Marche90]

It's not just my personal opinion here, it's the atmosphere with other communities I participate in. You try to be nice about major things, but minor stuff like optional bosses is pretty widely accepted. Heck, we openly talk about the culprit at PA. If someone shows up like 'hey I'm playing P4 for the first time', then we'd tone it back.

It's been a while since I posted here.
Anyway, while I do agree with this completely, since I do feel that people are overly sensitive with what constitue a spoiler nowadays, rules are rules and you should follow the rules to the letter. Get off from your high horse and realize that you did wrong. If you don't like the rules, simply STOP POSTING HERE. Easy, right? EDIT: Or wait until we get the conseus of what is right and wrong to post.

I think that Dantis said what everyone here wanted to say but couldn't, huh?

Also, spoiling something from another media here? Holy shit, that's a big no-no. I managed to screw up once with a very big spoiler from Danganronpa and never again I want to make that mistake.

 

[Soulflarz]

wait not official

Then I think the community should come to a consensus, rather than one person deciding for everyone.

And this I agree with fully, since I openly hate the rule and think it's counterproductive towards discussion-- and this thread is a community thread, not an LTTP thread. There can be LTTPs here, but seriously, I reiterate the statement that posting in a community thread for a series as a whole but minding any and all spoilers for pre release info is not a good idea on anyones part.

 

[Makio]

Also, spoiling something from another media here? Holy shit, that's a big no-no. .

Yeah that really sucks , at least with the persona spoilers i can handle it and i can expect it in here. but some other spoilers of maybe of things i was looking forward fuck them.

Is like when i was spoiled about some

Spoiler

death

scenes of Fire Emblem Fates thanks to a Persona FB fanpage.... hate them so much.

 

[NichM]

It's not just my personal opinion here, it's the atmosphere with other communities I participate in. You try to be nice about major things, but minor stuff like optional bosses is pretty widely accepted. Heck, we openly talk about the culprit at PA. If someone shows up like 'hey I'm playing P4 for the first time', then we'd tone it back.

That's great! Continue doing what you like at PA. Here, at PGAF, there is a different standard, one outlined clearly in the OP and also explained to you on numerous occasions. That you disagree with this standard does not give you license to ignore it at will.

 

[Sophia]

I've always been of the opinion that having to tread around posting new promotional media for Persona 5 (or any upcoming Persona game) is silly but, whatever, that's the rule. However, if that's the rule, it should also be enforced. There've been people who have argued for the rule who have themselves gone against it in this thread.

We talked about spoilers in the IRC channel sometime back, and Ven (who owns the channel) was all for relaxing the spoiler rule. The end results is that the rule is basically P3/P4 spoilers are okay to a degree (I.E. Don't be a dick to people actually playing P3/P4) because it's basically impossible to handle accidental spoilers there, and that spoilers for other games should go into the spoiler channel.

The rule for Persona 5 in there currently seems to be "If it's from an official source (Atlus/Famitsu/IGN/etc) and not explicitly marked as a spoiler or not explicitly one, then it's fair game." What do people think of that or a variation of that for this thread? Like perhaps maybe making the trailers and stuff officially released by Atlus/Atlus USA themselves okay?

Nope, I said it was official.

Some of you have got to improve your search powers. Answer: "Atlus World" is an official trademark for Japanese classification 35 (advertising and business) and 41 (entertainment) applied for in December 2007. I posted it in the thread for nothing.

Interesting... was it intended as like a hub website like the current Persona Channel? That's the impression I get from the classifications at any rate.

 

[QuadOpto]

Some of you have got to improve your search powers. Answer: "Atlus World" is an official trademark for Japanese classification 35 (advertising and business) and 41 (entertainment) applied for in December 2007. I posted it in the thread for nothing.

Ah....

Well, that's a bit of a let-down, but I guess it's my own fault for thinking it might have meant something current or big.

 

[Soulflarz]

We talked about spoilers in the IRC channel sometime back, and Ven (who owns the channel) was all for relaxing the spoiler rule. The end results is that the rule is basically P3/P4 spoilers are okay to a degree (I.E. Don't be a dick to people actually playing P3/P4) because it's basically impossible to handle accidental spoilers there, and that spoilers for other games should go into the spoiler channel.

The rule for Persona 5 in there currently seems to be "If it's from an official source (Atlus/Famitsu/IGN/etc) and not explicitly marked as a spoiler or not explicitly one, then it's fair game." What do people think of that or a variation of that for this thread? Like perhaps maybe making the trailers and stuff officially released by Atlus/Atlus USA themselves okay?

Completely okay with this.
The first paragraph is a generalized community thread rule around gaf (hell, if someone says they're playing something, last I checked you can't openly spoil it even if others are okay, that's called being a dick)
Second paragraph, I have no idea why this wasn't a rule.

+1 to IRC rules moving over here.

 

[cj_iwakura]

That's great! Continue doing what you like at PA. Here, at PGAF, there is a different standard, one outlined clearly in the OP and also explained to you on numerous occasions. That you disagree with this standard does not give you license to ignore it at will.

It's a standard that's clearly open to debate, and what constitutes a 'spoiler' is as well. You're welcome to participate more instead of chiming in once in a blue moon to take shots at me, though.

 

[Olengie]

Idk what i walked into. Lol

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Interesting... was it intended as like a hub website like the current Persona Channel? That's the impression I get from the classifications at any rate.

I wasn't following Atlus news around that time, but something like that sounds about right. Kind of like the Atlus Mobile trademark, but mainly for a central location to publicize news.

The rule for Persona 5 in there currently seems to be "If it's from an official source (Atlus/Famitsu/IGN/etc) and not explicitly marked as a spoiler or not explicitly one, then it's fair game." What do people think of that or a variation of that for this thread? Like perhaps maybe making the trailers and stuff officially released by Atlus/Atlus USA themselves okay?

To me, basically every piece of media available that doesn't come from someone who isn't a member of the press with a (early) copy of Persona 5 would be fair game. So stuff like PV02 would count, too, even if it was technically "leaked" by a fan.

Persona 5 isn't going to be the only Persona project released in the future. Having to hide discussion for anything new because some people want to go in blind hinders discussion for things that aren't even really spoilers.

 

[Sophia]

That's great! Continue doing what you like at PA. Here, at PGAF, there is a different standard, one outlined clearly in the OP and also explained to you on numerous occasions. That you disagree with this standard does not give you license to ignore it at will.

It's a standard that's clearly open to debate, and what constitutes a 'spoiler' is as well. You're welcome to participate more instead of chiming in once in a blue moon to take shots at me, though.

Both of you, none of that now please. We've had enough already with the previous conversation. No need for more of it ><;

Completely okay with this.
The first paragraph is a generalized community thread rule around gaf (hell, if someone says they're playing something, last I checked you can't openly spoil it even if others are okay, that's called being a dick)
Second paragraph, I have no idea why this wasn't a rule.

+1 to IRC rules moving over here.

For what it's worth, I was referring specifically to the Persona 5 rule, not the earlier games. I still would much prefer to keep the major points of the other games in spoiler tags.

Here's my guideline on what I personally consider spoilers in a general sense. I mostly stick to what Atlus themselves considers spoilers and don't deviate too much. The only exception is the obvious one in Persona 4. Although I tend to err on the side of caution whenever possible. If you've browsed TVTropes and know the layout of the pages there, you have a good idea. ALL GAME SPOILERS IN THE SPOILER TAGS AHEAD:

• Persona 1 SEBEC Route: Anything from late end game,
  Spoiler

  including Takahisa Kandori's goals, Maki's identity, the final boss, etc.
• Persona 1 Snow Queen Route: Anything from after you finish the three towers, anything regarding the bosses of the three towers.
• Persona 2 Innocent Sin/Eternal Punishment: Anything in the final third/second half of the game.
  Spoiler

  Essentially, anything related to the identities of the two Jokers. Thus mentioning that Jun is a party member is what I'd call okay, but not mentioning that he's also the Joker in Innocent Sin.
• Persona 3/FES/Portable: Anything from the later parts of the game, as well as basically almost all of The Answer as it's a basically an epilogue. Those who have played the game probably have a good idea of what I mean from later parts. This also includes the optional boss as they are a plot relevant, if minor, story character.
  Spoiler

  Essentially, the full moon shadows are okay, but Shiniro's death and Ikutsuki's betrayal onward isn't. Ryoji himself I don't consider a spoiler, but his identity and role in the story is.
• Persona 4: Here's the tricky one. I don't consider who's a party member a spoiler because they're ALL on the box in some manner, and different regions have different party members on the back of the box. Besides the obvious later/final third, what I do consider a spoiler is anything from after the culture festival, basically.
  Spoiler

  So Adachi being the murderer, Marie's identity, anything regarding the dungeons, etc. As well as Margaret being the bonus boss and such.
• Persona 4 Arena and Ultimax: Any story details not in arcade mode, pretty much. As well as
  Spoiler

  Adachi because mentioning him would spoil Persona 4 itself.
• Persona Q: Same as Atlus here, anything from the fourth dungeon onward.

I can't really give input on Dancing All Night because I haven't played that so.... But that kind of gives you an idea of how I look at it myself.

To me, basically every piece of media available that doesn't come from someone who isn't a member of the press with a (early) copy of Persona 5 would be fair game. So stuff like PV02 would count, too, even if it was technically "leaked" by a fan.

Persona 5 isn't going to be the only Persona project released in the future. Having to hide discussion for anything new because some people want to go in blind hinders discussion for things that aren't even really spoilers.

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't consider PV02 a spoiler. It's an officially released Atlus trailer, even if in limited venues.

 

[Zolo]

Spoiler

I think the part about considering Elizabeth as an optional boss is that she only shows up in new game+ anyway, so most people who fight her will likely already be aware she's an optional boss since it'll be listed in most online places as a reason to do new game+. Added on to that, you have Margaret for Persona 4. Then, we can safely say the same for Persona 5 with the twins without it even really being a spoiler because it's a pattern at this point.

 

[cj_iwakura]

• Persona 1 SEBEC Route: Anything from late end game,
  Spoiler

  including Takahisa Kandori's goals, Maki's identity, the final boss, etc.
• Persona 1 Snow Queen Route: Anything from after you finish the three towers, anything regarding the bosses of the three towers.
• Persona 2 Innocent Sin/Eternal Punishment: Anything in the final third/second half of the game.
  Spoiler

  Essentially, anything related to the identities of the two Jokers. Thus mentioning that Jun is a party member is what I'd call okay, but not mentioning that he's also the Joker in Innocent Sin.
• Persona 3/FES/Portable: Anything from the later parts of the game, as well as basically almost all of The Answer as it's a basically an epilogue. Those who have played the game probably have a good idea of what I mean from later parts. This also includes the optional boss as they are a plot relevant, if minor, story character.
  Spoiler

  Essentially, the full moon shadows are okay, but Shiniro's death and Ikutsuki's betrayal onward isn't. Ryoji himself I don't consider a spoiler, but his identity and role in the story is.
• Persona 4: Here's the tricky one. I don't consider who's a party member a spoiler because they're ALL on the box in some manner, and different regions have different party members on the back of the box. Besides the obvious later/final third, what I do consider a spoiler is anything from after the culture festival, basically.
  Spoiler

  So Adachi being the murderer, Marie's identity, anything regarding the dungeons, etc. As well as Margaret being the bonus boss and such.
• Persona 4 Arena and Ultimax: Any story details not in arcade mode, pretty much. As well as
  Spoiler

  Adachi because mentioning him would spoil Persona 4 itself.
• Persona Q: Same as Atlus here, anything from the fourth dungeon onward.

I can't really give input on Dancing All Night because I haven't played that so.... But that kind of gives you an idea of how I look at it myself.

I think all that is fair, although I still think the optional bosses are minor, especially P4's(since there's no story relevance), and it's fast becoming a series tradition.

Regarding Dancing All Night, (vaguely put)

Spoiler

there's a culprit identity, but outside of that, nothing I doubt anyone would casually banter about in thread.

 

[Sophia]

I think all that is fair, although I still think the optional bosses are minor, especially P4's(since there's no story relevance), and it's fast becoming a series tradition.

I think the big thing regarding the bonuses bosses is more to do with the fact that they exist as characters in the story themselves, long before you fight them as bonus bosses. Might be a bit nitpicking, but it's a difference between Ncoturne, SMT IV, P3, and P4's optional bosses compared to the ones in Digital Devil Saga.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Here's my guideline on what I personally consider spoilers in a general sense. I mostly stick to what Atlus themselves considers spoilers and don't deviate too much.

Thanks for moderating this even though you apparently don't care about tags either.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Thanks for moderating this even though you apparently don't care about tags either.

What's with the rampant hostility?

 

[DryEyeRelief]

What's with the rampant hostility?

I really meant that.

It's not like I'm the one that's doing it.

 

[Soulflarz]

edit: oh, it's not a snide post, nvm

 

[cj_iwakura]

I really meant that.

It's not like I'm the one that's doing it.

My mistake then, I have a bad radar for caustic-ness.

 

[Sophia]

What's with the rampant hostility?

I really meant that.

It's not like I'm the one that's doing it.

I must admit I went "OH SHIT Did I forget to spoiler something important there?" for a second. XD >_>;

 

[Lunar15]

Stuff for P5 is kind of weird. This is where having such a strong community thread doesn't really work in our favor, since otherwise almost all conversation would be in news threads on discussion side. I'd say talk about that stuff in depth there if you'd prefer, and then just spoiler/link anything in here.

At some point it's all going to be silly since everyone has completely different rules as to what's a spoiler and what's not. Like, I'm fine with official stuff, but when that game comes out in Japan I'm going on total lockdown. Other people don't even want to watch a trailer at all.

Also, I totally forget the rules all the time. Not intentionally, mind you. It is often just natural to come here to discuss certain things and then you just forget. I'm still for being conscientious about it.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Stuff for P5 is kind of weird. This is where having such a strong community thread doesn't really work in our favor, since otherwise almost all conversation would be in news threads on discussion side. I'd say talk about that stuff in depth there if you'd prefer, and then just spoiler/link anything in here.

But if we can't talk in-depth about the new developments in the Persona series, then what's exactly the point of this Community Thread? To perpetually go over the same old discussion points? The "PersonaGAF Cycle" is a thing for a reason, and I don't think it's a positive.

You won't see other community threads block official media for the newest stuff in their own respective series. If someone doesn't want to see Persona 5 stuff, then it stands to reason that they shouldn't be looking in a Persona thread. Obviously, none of us should openly post anything at all that will come from the game's release, but blocking official media is accomodating people that I don't think the Community Thread should necessarily accommodate.

 

[Lunar15]

But if we can't talk in-depth about the new developments in the Persona series, then what's exactly the point of this Community Thread? To perpetually go over the same old discussion points? The "PersonaGAF Cycle" is a thing for a reason, and I don't think it's a positive.

You won't see other community threads block official media for the newest stuff in their own respective series. If someone doesn't want to see Persona 5 stuff, then it stands to reason that they shouldn't be looking in a Persona thread. Obviously, none of us should openly post anything at all that will come from the game's release, but blocking official media is accomodating people that I don't think the Community Thread should necessarily accommodate.

I was really talking about unofficial stuff or really, really deep dives, which I've kinda tried to spoiler here. But yeah, I definitely get that you shouldn't be in a Persona thread if you don't want to learn about P5.

 

[cj_iwakura]

I was really talking about unofficial stuff or really, really deep dives, which I've kinda tried to spoiler here. But yeah, I definitely get that you shouldn't be in a Persona thread if you don't want to learn about P5.

I agree, and I doubt anyone here would argue otherwise. This should be the best place for P5 hype, not the most cautious. We're going nuts over Final in the SMT community thread.

 

[Sophia]

But if we can't talk in-depth about the new developments in the Persona series, then what's exactly the point of this Community Thread? To perpetually go over the same old discussion points? The "PersonaGAF Cycle" is a thing for a reason, and I don't think it's a positive.

You won't see other community threads block official media for the newest stuff in their own respective series. If someone doesn't want to see Persona 5 stuff, then it stands to reason that they shouldn't be looking in a Persona thread. Obviously, none of us should openly post anything at all that will come from the game's release, but blocking official media is accomodating people that I don't think the Community Thread should necessarily accommodate.

If anyone remembers the "proto community thread", that was actually pretty fun in regards to talking about what would come next after Arena. Relaxing the rules in regards to Persona 5 would probably be a good idea to get that feeling back. God knows anyone who's on media blackout is probably gone from the thread now anyhow. :\

At the very least, the lowest minimum, the PVs should be fair game.... I think we can all agree upon that? I do want to hear Dantis's opinion on the rules too, so I might ask him the next time I catch him online outside of GAF.

 

[Lunar15]

Personally I'd love everything to be free game, at least official stuff, but I will most likely go dark when we get real close. But that's on me, not this thread.

I haven't really seen anyone upset at P5 spoilers, though. There are other people reading the thread that don't comment though, but I guess it's kind of up to them whether or not they want to read. I remember I lurked this thread for like half a year before I got my GAF acceptance.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Personally I'd love everything to be free game, at least official stuff, but I will most likely go dark when we get real close. But that's on me, not this thread.

I haven't really seen anyone upset at P5 spoilers, though. There are other people reading the thread that don't comment though, but I guess it's kind of up to them whether or not they want to read. I remember I lurked this thread for like half a year before I got my GAF acceptance.

I think everyone would also agree on anything OUTSIDE of official trailers being blackout territory, but when P5 is out, I'll probably be hiding from every topic. It was a miracle no one spoiled P4 for me.
(Or P2, really. I had no idea

Spoiler

Jun was the Joker

until it was revealed.)

 

[Makio]

(Or P2, really. I had no idea

Spoiler

Jun was the Joker

until it was revealed.)

Is funny how the people talk about P2 spoilers like

Spoiler

Maya Death

or

Spoiler

shadows or stuff

but that one for some reason i never see it until played it.

I suppose that the blessing with P1 and P2 since "nobody" played so there not basically spoilers everywhere.

Not like with P4 i basically get spoiled the killer id , or the game

Spoiler

Final Boss

which made to played a second to get it , i got a

Spoiler

bad ending

the first time.

PD : Same thing with the spinoffs i think , i dont see real heavy spoilers of Dancing or Persona Q to be honest so far , maybe because people dont care too much about the stories for being spinoffs.

I suppose i can say the same with Ultimax / Arena but i played Arena way long after release and Ultimax i spoil me everything in hype release.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Persona 3's getting this interesting push recently.

1. Megumi Toyoguchi as PSC special guest in December.
2. Persona Snow Festival 2016 starts with the P3M version in January (with P4G later on).
3. P3M4 released in January.
4. Penultimate P3 manga volume is released in January; author feels pressured to release the last volume before Persona 5.
5. P3M real-life escape game starts in January.
6. P3M TCG collaboration in February.
7. Persona Magazine in February will include: P3M overview and an in-depth timeline of P3 characters from P3 to P4AU.
8. Megumi Ogata as PSC special guest in February.
9. P3M Finale Event in March.

I guess P3M4 drummed things up on that front.

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

FeMC getting a bust.

Spoiler

I hate it too.

 

[Aadrian1234]

7. Persona Magazine in February will include: P3M overview and an in-depth timeline of P3 characters from P3 to P4AU.

Ooh, i'll be looking out for this, i am very interested in this

9. P3M Finale Event in March.

I guess P3M4 drummed things up on that front.

Here's hoping to a definitive version announcement! If there's ever been a good time for it, now's the time!

(or maybe Atlus is teasing us with the "fake" P3P countdown that has come up again despite the game being out for a while now)

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

FeMC getting a bust.

Spoiler

I hate it too.

uggh, I hate busts. The worst was when someone sent me a picture of the Lightning bust without showing it as a bust and I thought I was going to be able to get a scale lightning figure

 

[Lunar15]

Yeah, gonna agree with Flux and say that the huge amount of P3 stuff is kinda interesting. I attribute it more to the movie being pretty popular in japan than any official upcoming game, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they did a P4G esque re-release.

 

[CrimsonFist]

I'd attribute pretty much all of that to movie promotion, with the possible exception of the manga one

 

[Sophia]

It is entirely possible that Sogabe is simply going to be doing Persona 5 as a manga next, and simply wants Persona 3 finished so he's not juggling a massive amount of projects at once.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

It is entirely possible that Sogabe is simply going to be doing Persona 5 as a manga next, and simply wants Persona 3 finished so he's not juggling a massive amount of projects at once.

Doubt there'll be a P5 manga anytime soon. The stress came more from the fact that he teased Chapitre 9 would be the final volume, but then had to apologize when it wasn't. And now he has to finish both the P4 and P3 mangas simultaneously, and is hoping he can get it done before P5 is out.

 

[QuadOpto]

Has the Persona 4 Manga been completed already or did he take a break on that one for Persona 3?

...Actually, is he the one doing the P4 Arena manga too? I'm guessing the first is done, but Ultimax is still apparently pushing out volumes, right?

Edit: ^^Ah. Guess that partially answers that. Man, guy has a lot on his plate then.