StarSketch
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Yeah but what defines major? Stuff like the killer of P4 and General Endgame stuff is obvious, but what about character related plot points or dungeons? Does
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Yeah but what defines major? Stuff like the killer of P4 and General Endgame stuff is obvious, but what about character related plot points or dungeons? Does
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
We're getting close to a new OT anyway, right?
CrimsonFist
Member
It's 20000 for the next one, so we're not really that close.
Should probably get the title of this one updated though.
Should probably get the title of this one updated though.
Yes, of course that counts as a spoiler. It's a major plot twist within Persona 3.
I made a post sometime back detailing what I personally considered spoilers, but I'd have to dig back through the thread to find it.
EDIT: Found it. I don't think we came to an agreement on everything (specifically, the optional boss that caused the drama last time), but here's where I stand on it:
We're actually not too close. Only 14k out of 20k posts. Got a little bit to go.
Regardless, Dantis should be keeping the original post up to date anyhow. Nobody else can change it, and there are broken images in there on top of the rules change.
I've been paying some attention to the YouTube uploaded recent Persona 5 videos not by Atlus, and I'm surprised and happy that there doesn't appear to have been mass takedowns like every other time. Maybe it's because atlustube realizes that it's just another form of promotion, or maybe it's because Persona 5 is starting to get marketed in earnest so they feel like they can ease up a bit? Either way, it's nice. Having to walk on egg shells to share any P5 media before via YouTube was always the weirdest thing.
StarSketch
Banned
There was an upload of all the trailers i saw yesterday and there was some weird ass motion filter on it that was super disorienting. I assume it was there to avert copyright bots but still.
Glad to know no one will have to do that anymore.
Glad to know no one will have to do that anymore.
I should. I'll sort it now, whilst I have a spare minute.
EDIT: It is done. Sorry for the delay. I've been busy lately, and just got behind with it.
Please don't beat me.
I absolutely agree. LJ wasn't in P4, so what's the big deal with him not returning for P5 either?
Thanks.
I updated my earlier post with the post on where I personally stand on spoilers for each game (except DAN,which I still haven't played), so might be of use to you when rewriting it.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
could be worse.
Reanimatoin
Member
Speculation time! Tagged for safety, potential morgana identity and Mystery Man 9 codename inside.
So in that 20th anniversary image, the one with the AoA portraits, somebody with very good eyes spotted that behind Mystery Man 9 are the letters Cr. Could Crow be this guys codename?
Also, we can see that Morgana has 'Mona' in their image. And someone has speculated that this could be the word Monarch. And since punchy-chan is supposedly Queen, could this imply that Morgana is the King and is actually a male?
Also, we can see that Morgana has 'Mona' in their image. And someone has speculated that this could be the word Monarch. And since punchy-chan is supposedly Queen, could this imply that Morgana is the King and is actually a male?
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
Edit: NVM, misread what you were saying.
I think this is the signfiicance - Morgana sees herself as the leader, Queen (In both cards and chess) is a secondary rank, and so Monarch is most appropriate.
Reanimatoin
Member
Hmm, I really like that line of thinking.
Most certainly not.
They made very clear these guys (phantom thieves) are not after the money (i think), but is kinda funny to see the guy working for a "living" specially in a shitty work like a fast food restaurant when he simply you know steal the money...
and it's a gyudon (beef bowl) restaurant too. Hmmm. HMMMMMMM.
DrunkShogun
Member
It works out for everyone this way. Persona 5 is able to have its own personality and lotus can work on his own music.
CrimsonFist
Member
Apologies for pulling a "question before the question" - but would you guys mind if I asked some rookie questions regarding Persona 4 Golden?
I nabbed a PS TV and P4:G based solely on the strength of the reviews and word of mouth. I've never played a game in this series before. I'm kinda like 'wtf is going on right now??' based on the first hour or two.
I nabbed a PS TV and P4:G based solely on the strength of the reviews and word of mouth. I've never played a game in this series before. I'm kinda like 'wtf is going on right now??' based on the first hour or two.
Reanimatoin
Member
Go for it. We may be in P5 hype mode atm, but we'll always talk about the other games when prompted.
Ask anything you want. That said, the first hour or two is likely still in the introduction/tutorial phase.
Aside from that one part where they're standing round a case full of money
Right ..... XD
Then that make the thing even funnier.
Yeah, welcome to Persona 4. The introduction is long. Eventually you'll be given full control to do as you please.
DrunkShogun
Member
everyone has to start somewhere so don't fret to ask. Someone is bound to answer any question. One tip which isn't for me personally but don't post to blame the game if you find it hard. I personally won't care but someone is bound to be defensive and will just give you a headache. Hope you enjoy it.
In the staff interview there's a
suitcase that is just loaded with money on the table and Ryuji says something like "H-how much is this!??" With his character profile's eyes bugging like crazy.
I found that really hilarious.
Damn you. I haven't been able to taste for almost 2 - 1/2 years. I wanna enjoy a nice savoury steak bowl so bad.
Dragon1893
Member
Indeed. Meguro was going for something completely different, just like he did when going from 3 to 4, not only was it obvious he would want a different singer but it's fundamental to give the game its own identity.
For P5 in particular this was very important, after the spin-off saturation of the previous games it was important to really make the game stand out from everything that came before it and clearly separate it from the prequels. Fortunately they succeeded, giving the game a very distinct personality, not only with the soundtrack but also in terms of visual style and tone. The fears of P4 stuff bleeding into P5, not to mention the carnival of stupid with the whole Sho being the protagonist thing disappeared instantly.
People argue that LJ (as well as Yumi) returned for the spin-offs but those are cross-overs between P3 and P4 so it makes complete sense to have the singers from both games involved, not to mention that this collaboration gave birth to a lot of fantatic music.
I'm huge fan of Shihoko and I still wouldn't want her in P5, not to mention that it allowed her to finally release a solo album which turned out fantastic.
But yeah, I help moderate LJ's fanclub on FB and this came up a lot, specially because he's very active there and people were hoping he'd give something away.
Gonna do some analysis about the bosses we may be fighting and who exactly they are.
This is kind of in depth and may not want to be read by those sensitive to potential spoilers.
So thoughts?
This is kind of in depth and may not want to be read by those sensitive to potential spoilers.
Mystic posted on twitter that the first boss's name is Asmodeus who is commonly associated with the deadly sin of Lust. He also pointed out that Asmodeus is classified as a major demon or a "Prince of Hell" by many.
The main princes according to Wikipedia are.
Lucifer: pride
Mammon: greed
Asmodeus: lust
Leviathan: envy
Beelzebub: gluttony
Satan: wrath
Belphegor: sloth
another interpretation is
Lucifer: pride
Beelzebub: envy (envious)
Sathanus: wrath (wraþþe)
Abaddon: sloth (slowȝ
Mammon: greed - avarice (avarouse) & covetousness (covetise)
Belphegor: gluttony (glotouns)
Asmodeus: lust (leccherouse) - later reported as using the name Asmodeum
but I think if this theory is right, they will use the top one.
First we have this guy
His appearance is remarkably similar to Beelzebub who has been in many SMT before
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...elzebub.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090219082929
The fact that he is surrounded by money is usually an obvious sign of greed, but going with this interpretation he would be Gluttony.
Next we have this guy
who I believe turns into
I'm going to guess that he is Mammon/Greed. We know Yusuke's mentor was stealing/selling his paintings(at least I that was confirmed right? I remember reading something like that), which I first thought would be envy, but outright stealing and selling sounds more like Greed. I can't find a good depiction of Mammon to prove this would be it, but I'm guessing they are taking liberties.
Now for something I bet most people missed, in Hashino's interview you can see this scene
This is wild speculation, but the figure in the background looks like a boss to me. I'm proposing that is Belphegor/Sloth. The fact that it has people fighting for him, and he is sitting down, makes me assume this. Also SMT demon for good measure.
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20080806040210
Next
Guessing this is another boss and obviously it's supposed to be sphinx. Going by what's left Satan or Leviathan would have to be it but not so sure about this one. Biggest problem in the theory. There are those two other terms that appeared with Morgana
The main princes according to Wikipedia are.
Lucifer: pride
Mammon: greed
Asmodeus: lust
Leviathan: envy
Beelzebub: gluttony
Satan: wrath
Belphegor: sloth
another interpretation is
Lucifer: pride
Beelzebub: envy (envious)
Sathanus: wrath (wraþþe)
Abaddon: sloth (slowȝ
Mammon: greed - avarice (avarouse) & covetousness (covetise)
Belphegor: gluttony (glotouns)
Asmodeus: lust (leccherouse) - later reported as using the name Asmodeum
but I think if this theory is right, they will use the top one.
First we have this guy
His appearance is remarkably similar to Beelzebub who has been in many SMT before
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...elzebub.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090219082929
The fact that he is surrounded by money is usually an obvious sign of greed, but going with this interpretation he would be Gluttony.
Next we have this guy
who I believe turns into
I'm going to guess that he is Mammon/Greed. We know Yusuke's mentor was stealing/selling his paintings(at least I that was confirmed right? I remember reading something like that), which I first thought would be envy, but outright stealing and selling sounds more like Greed. I can't find a good depiction of Mammon to prove this would be it, but I'm guessing they are taking liberties.
Now for something I bet most people missed, in Hashino's interview you can see this scene
This is wild speculation, but the figure in the background looks like a boss to me. I'm proposing that is Belphegor/Sloth. The fact that it has people fighting for him, and he is sitting down, makes me assume this. Also SMT demon for good measure.
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20080806040210
Next
Guessing this is another boss and obviously it's supposed to be sphinx. Going by what's left Satan or Leviathan would have to be it but not so sure about this one. Biggest problem in the theory. There are those two other terms that appeared with Morgana
So thoughts?
Does anyone else remember that Ganesha was called the "Unlucky Elephant Prince" in an earlier screenshot? There are more names like this in the new footage: Tengu is the "Jesting Yamabushi", Nue is the "chimera that sings at night" and Kumbhanda is the "vitality absorbing neighbour". Agathion and Silky, however, are presented with their actual names.
It makes me wonder whether we have to analyze our enemies before we get to see their names. Some of these names are also similiar to the names of Shadows from P3 and P4.
It makes me wonder whether we have to analyze our enemies before we get to see their names. Some of these names are also similiar to the names of Shadows from P3 and P4.
Gonna do some analysis about the bosses we may be fighting and who exactly they are.
This is kind of in depth and may not want to be read by those sensitive to potential spoilers.
Mystic posted on twitter that the first boss's name is Asmodeus who is commonly associated with the deadly sin of Lust. He also pointed out that Asmodeus is classified as a major demon or a "Prince of Hell" by many.
The main princes according to Wikipedia are.
Lucifer: pride
Mammon: greed
Asmodeus: lust
Leviathan: envy
Beelzebub: gluttony
Satan: wrath
Belphegor: sloth
another interpretation is
Lucifer: pride
Beelzebub: envy (envious)
Sathanus: wrath (wraþþe)
Abaddon: sloth (slowȝ
Mammon: greed - avarice (avarouse) & covetousness (covetise)
Belphegor: gluttony (glotouns)
Asmodeus: lust (leccherouse) - later reported as using the name Asmodeum
but I think if this theory is right, they will use the top one.
First we have this guy
His appearance is remarkably similar to Beelzebub who has been in many SMT before
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...elzebub.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090219082929
The fact that he is surrounded by money is usually an obvious sign of greed, but going with this interpretation he would be Gluttony.
Next we have this guy
who I believe turns into
I'm going to guess that he is Mammon/Greed. We know Yusuke's mentor was stealing/selling his paintings(at least I that was confirmed right? I remember reading something like that), which I first thought would be envy, but outright stealing and selling sounds more like Greed. I can't find a good depiction of Mammon to prove this would be it, but I'm guessing they are taking liberties.
Now for something I bet most people missed, in Hashino's interview you can see this scene
This is wild speculation, but the figure in the background looks like a boss to me. I'm proposing that is Belphegor/Sloth. The fact that it has people fighting for him, and he is sitting down, makes me assume this. Also SMT demon for good measure.
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20080806040210
Next
Guessing this is another boss and obviously it's supposed to be sphinx. Going by what's left Satan or Leviathan would have to be it but not so sure about this one. Biggest problem in the theory. There are those two other terms that appeared with Morgana
So thoughts?
Fly guys is standing in front of a safe, I am pretty sure that he is greed.
Doesn't really fit in with Beelzebub then.
Also
Gluttony (Latin: gula), derived from the Latin gluttire meaning to gulp down or swallow, means over-indulgence and over-consumption of food, drink, or wealth items to the point of extravagance or waste
It could still fit. I thought it was going to be greed before, but it works better with this theory.
Also
Gluttony (Latin: gula), derived from the Latin gluttire meaning to gulp down or swallow, means over-indulgence and over-consumption of food, drink, or wealth items to the point of extravagance or waste
It could still fit. I thought it was going to be greed before, but it works better with this theory.
DrunkShogun
Member
I just realise that the trend of a hairband is still kept vaguely by biker girls hair. It's not a hairband but it does evoke previous designs. Finally a good fanart of biker or possibly queen if that nickname is preferable.
Mediking
Member
Really loving everything new we've seen. Persona 5 finally looks like the natural next step in the mainline series they've been asserting. Err... except hacker-chan is already nothing but a meme, winning out in popularity online mostly because people see themselves in her. I mean, it's really great to be able to really connect with a character but I just felt she came off as the most dull in the trailer. Guess while I'm grilling them, biker girl seems cool enough but retreading the "party member is the student council president" thing is kinda lame but probably not a big deal in the end... ¯\_(ツ_/¯
Just expressing some thoughts given the trailer only. Here's some hype as contrast:
Ryuji and Yusuke have me really excited as they both look like such fantastic characters. MC looks waaaay more appealing too because they've fixed a lot of the stupid smirk shit that was plaguing the game. I swear, the part of the trailer with the glass breaking effect and him landing is the hypest shit ever. Above all else, the game is looking gorgeous and is probably the slickest designed game I've ever seen.
Edit: Oh, also want to express how hype biker girl's persona is! Vroom Vroom!
Seeing as how this got posted I may as well post some commentary. My biker and hacker sketches were done when I had been up for way too long due to P5 hype and so I feel I muddied them in places. For instance I was too exhausted to even check if hacker ever actually wears a skirt and it turns out she doesn't in any outfit we've seen. Guess she's a deadbeat who doesn't even attend class or something. Pretty happy with how Frenchy turned out however and hope people can enjoy the sketches regardless.
_/¯ Just expressing some thoughts given the trailer only. Here's some hype as contrast:
Ryuji and Yusuke have me really excited as they both look like such fantastic characters. MC looks waaaay more appealing too because they've fixed a lot of the stupid smirk shit that was plaguing the game. I swear, the part of the trailer with the glass breaking effect and him landing is the hypest shit ever. Above all else, the game is looking gorgeous and is probably the slickest designed game I've ever seen.
Edit: Oh, also want to express how hype biker girl's persona is! Vroom Vroom!
Seeing as how this got posted I may as well post some commentary. My biker and hacker sketches were done when I had been up for way too long due to P5 hype and so I feel I muddied them in places. For instance I was too exhausted to even check if hacker ever actually wears a skirt and it turns out she doesn't in any outfit we've seen. Guess she's a deadbeat who doesn't even attend class or something. Pretty happy with how Frenchy turned out however and hope people can enjoy the sketches regardless.
That just what makes Dantis Dantis. :3
And it's better to have someone be the critic because it helps the community to define why they disagree rather than saying "No U" and shutting themselves up.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Also
his dungeon features a chapel attended by ATMs. The metaphor is too obvious to not be greed.
For i see / read so far beside hacker-chan insane amount of popularity is
Queen Biker Girl is basically Yukari / Mitsuru 2.0 , Yukari because she looks piss off all the shots she had in the trailer , so she got a awful temper / personality , Mitsuru because the motorcycle and student president thingy.
Anne got send into the oblivion , she is "the worst" girl now, because my hacker -chan and Adieu chan are the flavors of the week.
There no way Adieu Chan is japanese , she most be french ... and that made her Mitsuru 2.0 (despite only Dub Mitsuru speaks french).
Yusuke is GAY GAY GAY 100% GAY .... his looks , his personality (which we dont see anything so far) GAY GAY GAY .... No matter if he ends up be straight , he is going to be headcannon gay like Naoto is a transexual , because we say so.
Ryuji sucks , is basically Yosuke 2.0 or Junpei 3.0
Ryuji X ANN OTP ... she lands her head over him , 1000% they are dating fo sure.
The other guy is a secret , he must be a traitor or the killer of the game (is a killer in this game) but bad guy for sure ...
And other stupid things i dont remember right now , gotta love how this fandom label characters with a couple of shots and lines from trailers.
At least wait until play the game and after made your stupid / twisted perception of the characters.
I really think this is a problematic viewpoint for multiple reasons.
I think Makio was using examples that are currently being used as labels by the fandom, not what Makio personally thinks.
Yeah I realized it right as you posted, lol. Sorry about that, Makio.
I don't think the fandom has really meme-ifed the characters tho. They're just instantly likable characters for a lot of people. The reaction to them is pretty similar to the reaction to FeMC when she was first announced.
StarSketch
Banned
We kiiiiiiiiiinda need more information before we can really call anything, but people can be excited too
CrimsonFist
Member
We've barely even seen a lot of the new cast outside of their thief personas.
Yeah my bad , i wasnt talking about the fandom as a whole just that little part out there which i say earlier put Naoto into trans or Kanji 100% gay just because they want to despite the games made clear that is not true at all.
Is amazing we already see these problems with a characters we dont have / know anything about it.
And just to be clear , i dont have problems if someone ends up being a gay or a trans like already see some theory about Sakura being a dude based in the other guys reaction in the beach.
If they want a gay / lesbian character go for it , if they want do it a dateable option good too.
But at least wait until we know anything about the games before put it into labels than maybe can be proven wrong once again.
Not making like 70% of his artwork or personality traits be gay or call names to Atlus if dont make him gay based in his looks and his comparision to Jun.
PD: I know everyone have their opinion and first impressions about the characters and stuff (like Sakura being the most popular character right now) but say Ann is a "whore" because his suit , Queen being a "bitch" because her temper and Ryuji a "fucking pervert" for two lines of dialogue and 2 shots is take it too far and the other example i give in the other posts
Is amazing we already see these problems with a characters we dont have / know anything about it.
And just to be clear , i dont have problems if someone ends up being a gay or a trans like already see some theory about Sakura being a dude based in the other guys reaction in the beach.
If they want a gay / lesbian character go for it , if they want do it a dateable option good too.
But at least wait until we know anything about the games before put it into labels than maybe can be proven wrong once again.
Not making like 70% of his artwork or personality traits be gay or call names to Atlus if dont make him gay based in his looks and his comparision to Jun.
PD: I know everyone have their opinion and first impressions about the characters and stuff (like Sakura being the most popular character right now) but say Ann is a "whore" because his suit , Queen being a "bitch" because her temper and Ryuji a "fucking pervert" for two lines of dialogue and 2 shots is take it too far and the other example i give in the other posts