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Persona Community Thread: The Butterfly Effect
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CrazyTank940
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As threatening as a Pixie you say?
Random guess here... Nocturne?
You got it.
CrazyTank940
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Considering how I haven't even played it yet I'd say it's a good guess. I'll end up starting it on friday
cj_iwakura
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You have chosen... wisely.
I'm curious which Reason you'll follow.
You're in for a treat then.
Scene right after that, when they're in the dorm. (Note: Video has P3 spoilers.)
Well, all Personae have some ability to sense each other. Persona resonance, as was established in Persona 2. Fuuka just seems to be unnaturally good at it.
buddha0991
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It's happening again. P2ISP didn't rekindle this make the best persona possible and get all its skills + mutations thing since it was so easy, but EP PS1, it's happening........
It was interesting seeing P4A reintroduce the concept of Persona resonance, if it was in legit P4, the case would have been over in a few minutes.
It was interesting seeing P4A reintroduce the concept of Persona resonance, if it was in legit P4, the case would have been over in a few minutes.
It's not actually a plot hole that Persona-resonance isn't in P4. Even Fuuka comments that she couldn't sense Strega a few times, and it was never a guaranteed thing in Persona 2 either. You will notice that at the start of Innocent Sin, Tatsyua and Lisa don't sense Eikichi's persona until he summons it.
Alright, then. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to see that in P3P, heh.
I think Persona resonance is exclusive to users who gained their powers from playing the Persona game and not the P3/P4 folk (except for Teddie, Rise, Mitsuru and Fuuka, and even then...), according to P4A. Some of the Persona 4 guys weren't aware the Persona 3 people had Personas upon meeting them and vice-versa. If they still had Persona resonance, the Investigation Team would have immediately sensed
Namatame and Adachi
That's true. Guess it's just a mess then!
Wait, never mind. I don't think it's true since Tatsuya and Ginko didn't have their Personas at the time Eikichi summoned his.
cj_iwakura
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Well I know I'd want a copy of the greatest RPG of all time...
Still have my director's cut(meaning with OST) copy, irreplaceable.
CrazyTank940
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Well considering (good) Dante's inclusion, I'm sure Atlus would need to negotiate something with Capcom to get it as a PS2 classic.
cj_iwakura
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Hilariously enough, that's the DMC2 Dante, and I think that now he would definitely be considered a superior incarnation.
buddha0991
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He is superior. He has the badass DMC2 look with a nice mix of DMC1 and 3 personality.
Is Steam being dumb lately btw?
Is Steam being dumb lately btw?
It was being dumb earlier, but it seems stable now.
Yeah, that's the reason people give for why it probably won't come out. I'll need to hunt down a PS2 copy eventually.
While P1/P2 characters were basically given their powers, P3/P4 characters pretty much gained them (moreso P3 than P4). Igor's supposedly ruled by Philemon, so whatevs.
That is the very scene in which they awaken to them. Also Hanya sensed Philemon from the hallway earlier on and commented on it. They had the potential.
Yeah, I remember that after Tatsuya got his headache (although potential was really just a term used in P3). Maybe they just decided to throw away resonance in the modern games because they didn't want to deal with it or because it's unnecessary since there aren't Persona users everywhere anymore.
Thinking about this, I realize that Rise is probably the weakest Persona user that we know of. She's good for locating people in the fog and that's about it.
Lowlander2
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That's still up in the air for me, but the game he's in is certainly worse. If you weren't using a guide, the only way you'd know how to use the
two-headed coin
Goddess Rise. Fuuka might be a better tracker, but Rise has those god tier buffs and shields.
TurnipFritters
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Tatsuya has had his Persona since the Alaya incident, just like Maya.
Yeah, I guess he did use his back then, though I wouldn't necessarily count it as an awakening since he wasn't even aware of its existence until the events at the beginning of IS.
Looks like it's still up for $20 new at amazon. I got mine, along with DDS 1&2 for $20 a piece from amazon.ca the summer.
cj_iwakura
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Criminal bargain.
SloaneRisette
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Man, I might have to bag a copy when I'll be able to afford it-- aka after this computer is built and potentially after other games I want that are newer are bought.
Ridiculously lucky you are.
Neither of them felt threatening at all to me.
SloaneRisette
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I loved P4 villain's reveal and his speech behind his motivations.
But who the villain is themselves? Just... I dunno, it feels kind of strange to me. Everything is sort of there, but something feels off at the same time. The new ending in P4:G doesn't really help. I haven't seen it, but just knowing what it is feels so weird to me.
I quite loved the plan that the P3 villains put together to sort of orchestrate things, that was pretty cool and it felt really huge.
Also Unavoidable Battle is godlike battle music.
But who the villain is themselves? Just... I dunno, it feels kind of strange to me. Everything is sort of there, but something feels off at the same time. The new ending in P4:G doesn't really help. I haven't seen it, but just knowing what it is feels so weird to me.
I quite loved the plan that the P3 villains put together to sort of orchestrate things, that was pretty cool and it felt really huge.
Also Unavoidable Battle is godlike battle music.
Woo 1700 posts
I ended up getting Nocturne and DDS 1& 2 at Gamestop, complete used for 17.99 a piece and had store credit.
Of course, this was when they were still going for about 30 bucks on Amazon, then fast forward a few months and they're 20 there.
Lowlander2
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Wait. I just realised something very wrong with Persona 4. Considering it's been a given staple of not just other Persona games, but also Lucifer's Call, it's a pretty glaring issue. It destroys the entire experience now.
Where in the hell was Nekomata?
Where in the hell was Nekomata?
I have always thought Nekomata had a boring design.
I had a physical copy of both, but traded them in for a copy of episodes 2 and 3 of Xenosaga. It was terrible decision in hindsight. :,(
I had a physical copy of both, but traded them in for a copy of episodes 2 and 3 of Xenosaga. It was terrible decision in hindsight. :,(
Really? Most of Strega's work is improvisation.
The only one with a plan gets offed about three seconds after he reveals it.
SloaneRisette
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I guess plan might've been the wrong word-- but that thing is what I mean. The
whole c ult created to orchestrate The Fall, I thought that was, while potentially silly/nonsensical in how it's done, was still cool just for how widespread their efforts became and to the extent it worked.
Yeah, I definitely get where you're coming from-- and to an extent I feel the same way as well, I think it's mostly just the idea of what it is is what I like about it, really.
Ah Nocturne, yet another game to play through after the Persona 2s.
And before that, Tomb Raider, but yeah.
Nocturne was my first technical experience with these types of games, but I just cannot do games with almost no story to them. Anything without a narrative kind of loses me.
And before that, Tomb Raider, but yeah.
Nocturne was my first technical experience with these types of games, but I just cannot do games with almost no story to them. Anything without a narrative kind of loses me.
Same here!
I've been going through it at a pretty slow pace, what with several other games on the go right now.
I just finished the part where
the Mantra is taken out. I also fought Hell Biker.
Played about four hours last night, myself. I think it's fantastic. It's really fun and it's GORGEOUS.
I'm enjoying it so much that I went out and actually bought a copy today for PS3 (I've only rented for 360). First time I've bought a console game on launch since... Something. It's been a long while.
Glad you're enjoying it too!
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