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Persona Community Thread: The Butterfly Effect

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PK Gaming

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Ameno uses the fog before his buffs and Dekaja won't work then IIRC. The same turn he lifts the fog he starts attacking.

Well what I did was use it nearly every time he buffed himself, which never put me in a situation where he was fully buffed + in fog mode.
PK Gaming. I'm basically him but with worse taste and more genetic imperfection

I'm basically Scrafty, but significantly less cool and definitely lacking in tact/common sense.
 

jaxword

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So why were Persona 3 and 4 so drastically different than Persona 1 and 2? They're still obviously part of the same series, but the change in theme and gameplay is a huge leap. So many mechanics seem to be shunted off to the spinoffs whereas the dating sim aspect became the forefront.
 
So why were Persona 3 and 4 so drastically different than Persona 1 and 2? They're still obviously part of the same series, but the change in theme and gameplay is a huge leap. So many mechanics seem to be shunted off to the spinoffs whereas the dating sim aspect became the forefront.
1. Mainstream appeal
2 Reeeebooooot
3. Wanted to be something that's not a stereotypical SMT game.
4. Different artist

Don't care much for P2s gameplay but whoever did the story/characters needs to come back.
 

Young Magus

Junior Member
Hmm, she's less... Androidy than I would have thought.

Who's the Ghost Dad? Buddha?

Not sure who the pop star is.

Hatred given form, eh? Fritters? Keiichi? Dantis? :D

You've been talking to one for quite some time now.

Heck, in this thread alone we have an android, a clone, a Ghost Dad, a pop star and hatred given corporeal form.

Buddha's Ghost Dad, I'm the clone, Risette is the pop star, and I'll leave the last one open for interpretation ;P
Who am I? Who am I?
 

jaxword

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1. Mainstream appeal
2 Reeeebooooot
3. Wanted to be something that's not a stereotypical SMT game.
4. Different artist

Don't care much for P2s gameplay but whoever did the story/characters needs to come back.

Yeah, I get those are the actual game REASONS why they're different, but I meant the behind the scenes stuff. Did they get a new director, did they spinoff some aspects to other things, did the console change play a role?

Like, take the FF series; they tried a different leveling engine with FF2, but it was so badly received that it never came back and the director moved to the Saga series or whatever.
 

Young Magus

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I'll take your smile as an affirmation of your Nice Guy-itute. Welcome to the list.
Yay!!!!
and regarding the whole change in direction, it's probably due to the change in writing and console leap. Also to make Persona a bit more then SMT-Lite (not that there's anything wrong with that)
 

cj_iwakura

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Wow, Grandia Xtreme has a lot of profanity for 'mild language'.
So you're saying the ruins are stirring up the Elemental Spirits and causing all this craziness? Bullshit!

All I remember is that it's a short game and Mark Hamill voices someone.

And that it's quite rare for some reason.
 
Yeah, I get those are the actual game REASONS why they're different, but I meant the behind the scenes stuff. Did they get a new director, did they spinoff some aspects to other things, did the console change play a role?

Like, take the FF series; they tried a different leveling engine with FF2, but it was so badly received that it never came back and the director moved to the Saga series or whatever.
Kaneko stopped doing it and his partner in crime left too. I forgot dude's name but he was involved with P1 & P2.
 
Yea, Cozy Okoda left, but Persona was the brainchild of Satomi Tadashi, and he's gone too, but he came back to write some new content for P2ISP and all then new content in P2EPP.
 

Dantis

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1. Mainstream appeal
2 Reeeebooooot
3. Wanted to be something that's not a stereotypical SMT game.
4. Different artist

Don't care much for P2s gameplay but whoever did the story/characters needs to come back.

Soejima actually did all the in-game character illustrations in P2 (And Doi coloured them). ;)

That song is my fucking jam.

That TT track is alright, too.

Yeah, I love Specialist. It's my song that I put on to feel better if I'm ever feeling down, haha.
 

coopolon

Member
All this talk about a console p5 was making me sad, because I have no intention of buying a ps4 or xbone anytime in the near future.

But then I remembered p4 came to ps2 like 2 years after the ps3 had released so now I'm kind of hoping for a console p5.

Also, is it just me or do you get way more experience in p3p vs p3 fes? Even with a full party it just seems like I'm leveling up way faster in p3p, but I don't remember seeing this change mentioned anywhere.
 

Soriku

Junior Member
All this talk about a console p5 was making me sad, because I have no intention of buying a ps4 or xbone anytime in the near future.

But then I remembered p4 came to ps2 like 2 years after the ps3 had released so now I'm kind of hoping for a console p5.

Also, is it just me or do you get way more experience in p3p vs p3 fes? Even with a full party it just seems like I'm leveling up way faster in p3p, but I don't remember seeing this change mentioned anywhere.

P5 is going to be a current gen game, not much doubt about that.
 

Trigger

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Also, is it just me or do you get way more experience in p3p vs p3 fes? Even with a full party it just seems like I'm leveling up way faster in p3p, but I don't remember seeing this change mentioned anywhere.

I think it's just a case of the game being easier. The exp rate doesn't seem changed to me at all.
 

coopolon

Member
I think it's just a case of the game being easier. The exp rate doesn't seem changed to me at all.

Hmm, I wish I had my early saves in p3p to compare with the first block in fes. In the first month I'm getting like...3 xp per battle. I don't think I'm going to hit level 7 before the first full moon while I think I was way past that in p3p.
 

Dantis

Member
The Last of Us demo in three and a half hours.

So hype.

Maybe Sony got smart and money hatted it.

I'd rather this didn't happen. One of the many concerns that I have is that the budget will grow too big which means that the audience will have to be expanded to compensate.
 

Trigger

Member
Money hatting seems pointless IMO. I don't see Wii U being a target platform for Atlus, and I don't think Sony has much competition for the JRPG audience with MS.
 

Necrovex

Member
Maybe I should stop playing the 999/VLR soundtrack when I'm feeling down because then I just feel like I'mma get murdered

Just listen to the One Piece opening songs to combat the depressing nature of the 999/VLR OST.

The Last of Us demo in three and a half hours.

So hype.

Is that also out today for NA? If so, I'll have to contact my friend, so he can be tempted to play it (he bought GoW). In a few more weeks, I'll be able to borrow my friend's copy and play Last of Us!
 

Dantis

Member
Is that also out today for NA? If so, I'll have to contact my friend, so he can be tempted to play it (he bought GoW). In a few more weeks, I'll be able to borrow my friend's copy and play Last of Us!

It sure is. I got GoW cheap when I preordered TLOU, completely unaware of the demo.

It was a very pleasant surprise. ;)
 

Squire

Banned
Maybe Sony got smart and money hatted it.

I'd rather this didn't happen. One of the many concerns that I have is that the budget will grow too big which means that the audience will have to be expanded to compensate.

It just isn't worth it. Money hatting is for AAA titles. It's part of why Nintendo locking up Bayonetta 2 is infuriatingly idiotic.

PG gets to make a game they want. It wouldn't have happened otherwise. Got it. Great. Congratulations.

It still won't sell shit.
 
It sure is. I got GoW cheap when I preordered TLOU, completely unaware of the demo.

It was a very pleasant surprise. ;)

You vex me Dantis. You dislike games that almost everyone loves and like games that ate for all intents and purposes, are called mediocre cash ins and the worst in the series. Have you played precious GoW titles?
 

Dantis

Member
It just isn't worth it. Money hatting is for AAA titles. It's part of why Nintendo locking up Bayonetta 2 is infuriatingly idiotic.

PG gets to make a game they want. It wouldn't have happened otherwise. Got it. Great. Congratulations.

It still won't sell shit.

Truth.

It's easy to forget how small Persona is when you're on GAF, but it still is absolutely a niche game. Whilst I think Persona 5 will hit much higher numbers than any previous entry, it won't be enough to justify Sony buying exclusivity.

You vex me Dantis. You dislike games that almost everyone loves and like games that ate for all intents and purposes, are called mediocre cash ins and the worst in the series. Have you played precious GoW titles?

SORRY FOR HAVING MY OWN OPINIONS BRAH.

Also, it's pretty unfair to call Ascension a cash in. If you don't like it that's fine, but some serious, serious work went into it. It's easily the best looking console game on the market.
 

Jintor

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Some serious work could go into a bowl of dogshit and it'd still be a bowl of dogshit.

I don't know anything about GoW
 

Omikaru

Member
To be fair, I really hate the God of War series. There are some games I don't like, but I get that people like them. I don't get God of War.
 

Levito

Banned
Are you guys talking about Gears of War or God of War?

EDIT: nvm


It just isn't worth it. Money hatting is for AAA titles. It's part of why Nintendo locking up Bayonetta 2 is infuriatingly idiotic.

PG gets to make a game they want. It wouldn't have happened otherwise. Got it. Great. Congratulations.

It still won't sell shit.


If Nintendo didn't back it, it wouldn't have been made. It's Sega's fault that Bayo 2 is only on Wii U.
 
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