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Persona Mafia |OT| Memento Mori

I am the queen.
This world belongs to me.
I don't need anyone else.
My world is complete.
I am the queen.
This false world belongs to me,
The lonely queen...
No one knows the real me.
Don't take away my cape.
Because underneath, i am nothing.
Don't chase after me.
Please...

starsketch (1)
exmachina64 1357

plop (1)
flatearthpandas 1416

franconp (1)
franconp 1437 (1441)
zippedpinhead 1624

ii-vanguard-ii (2)
natiko 1509
plop 1646

zippedpinhead (2)
matt attack 1550
11037 1637

Day Ends:

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Majority is at 8
 
Vote: II-Vanguard-II

I agree with Plop's read that it's funny that two confirmed scum members were linked to him earlier. His earlier posts don't make me feel comfortable in the fact that he is town, and between him and Buzzard, it seems more likely that he will actually be lynched today.

I would be comfortable with lynching either one, for the record.
 

Sophia

Member
PERSONA
Reveal

Vanguard grins, and took off his sunglasses. He wasn't going to be killed. He was no mere shadow anymore....

A tarot card formed in his hand. Letting it hover in his hands for a moment, he glared at the card, and uttered a single word....

"Persona."

... before crushing it within it's hand.

The world around seemed to transform, as a blue aura appeared around him.

Behind him, a mysterious figured that could be seen by everyone began to form.

"I am thou. And thou art I...."

II-Vanguard-II is a Persona user, an Innocent Child aligned with the Town.
 
I've spent all this time looking for links to Vanguard.

Okay, well I guess I'll place a vote on my second-biggest scum read, Zippedpinhead.

Vote: Zippedpinhead

My confidence in any vote I might cast is shaken.

Bleh.
 
Wait...

Can anyone do that type of role reveal?

If not, what kind of power is that for Vanguard? Your power is that you get to reveal you're a townie?

Or is it a scum power that you get to be revealed as a townie? Like a disguise...

Jesus help me I'm confused.
 
Wait...

Can anyone do that type of role reveal?

If not, what kind of power is that for Vanguard? Your power is that you get to reveal you're a townie?

Or is it a scum power that you get to be revealed as a townie? Like a disguise...

Jesus help me I'm confused.

i'm regular town now.
 
Wait...

Can anyone do that type of role reveal?

If not, what kind of power is that for Vanguard? Your power is that you get to reveal you're a townie?

Or is it a scum power that you get to be revealed as a townie? Like a disguise...

Jesus help me I'm confused.

An innocent child role can reveal their town alignment at will. It puts a target on their backs for NKs, but it does prevent them from being mislynched. In any case, I'm pretty confident on my vote staying on Zipped now.
 

An innocent child role can reveal their town alignment at will. It puts a target on their backs for NKs, but it does prevent them from being mislynched. In any case, I'm pretty confident on my vote staying on Zipped now.

Okay, thanks.

Well, sorry about that Vanguard. This does explain why you said earlier that exmachina (I think) would never be able to get you lynched.

I'll stay on Zippedpinhead for now with my vote (even tho my suspicion is heavily weighted on lack of participation). I'm going to dig as much as I can over the next couple hours but I'm at work and can't promise much.
 

Natiko

Banned
Well I stand corrected on Vanguard. You played pretty strangely thus far but at least your role made up for it in the end so we were able to avoid the mislynch. I'll likely move my vote to Star or Zipped, but not in a way that risks a tie (so currently that would be Zipped I believe).

Unvote
 

Natiko

Banned
I'm really at a loss for this day phase. All of our potential picks for lynching are based on such circumstantial reasoning. The strongest case can be made for Star but if she isn't lying and we lynch a PR that would be bad. Hyper is such a big question mark too but I don't want to just lynch him over one day phase. Verelios had a bit of an odd reads list but again that doesn't seem like a strong case. Zipped hasn't been active, was one of early day ending votes on Style, and has made some odd claims but again this isn't surefire evidence. FEP thinks either plop or me are scum but I know I'm not and I don't get that vibe from plop. This is a shit show.
 
I'm really at a loss for this day phase. All of our potential picks for lynching are based on such circumstantial reasoning. The strongest case can be made for Star but if she isn't lying and we lynch a PR that would be bad. Hyper is such a big question mark too but I don't want to just lynch him over one day phase. Verelios had a bit of an odd reads list but again that doesn't seem like a strong case. Zipped hasn't been active, was one of early day ending votes on Style, and has made some odd claims but again this isn't surefire evidence. FEP thinks either plop or me are scum but I know I'm not and I don't get that vibe from plop. This is a shit show.

I don't feel like I have good reads of anyone anymore.
 

PK Gaming

Member
Vanguard grins, and took off his sunglasses. He wasn't going to be killed. He was no mere shadow anymore....

A tarot card formed in his hand. Letting it hover in his hands for a moment, he glared at the card, and uttered a single word....

"Persona."

... before crushing it within it's hand.

The world around seemed to transform, as a blue aura appeared around him.

Behind him, a mysterious figured that could be seen by everyone began to form.

"I am thou. And thou art I...."

II-Vanguard-II is a Persona user, an Innocent Child aligned with the Town.

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Haha that was so cool
 
I'm really at a loss for this day phase. All of our potential picks for lynching are based on such circumstantial reasoning. The strongest case can be made for Star but if she isn't lying and we lynch a PR that would be bad. Hyper is such a big question mark too but I don't want to just lynch him over one day phase. Verelios had a bit of an odd reads list but again that doesn't seem like a strong case. Zipped hasn't been active, was one of early day ending votes on Style, and has made some odd claims but again this isn't surefire evidence. FEP thinks either plop or me are scum but I know I'm not and I don't get that vibe from plop. This is a shit show.

I still think Star is town (she really does seem to be playing like the town Star I've seen in my past games), but after Style's claimed role proved false, I am feeling a bit more hesitant to take her claim at face value. I wouldn't be opposed to testing a lynch on her if she can't prove her ability/alignment within the next few days, but I'm feeling suspicious of Zipped so I'd really rather go with him. I'll definitely agree that it's a shame we only have circumstantial evidence for our options. We're lucky we got 2 scum in a row at least, the momentum is on our side in that regard.
 

Natiko

Banned
I don't feel like I have good reads of anyone anymore.
I agree. It's such a crappy position too. We're all going with little more than gut feelings at this point.
Oh. Well then.

Wasn't expecting that to be in this game, but makes sense. Wish I was a Watcher now, though...

Hrm...
What's the difference? Does the tracker only get to see who someone went and visited but does not get to see who visits them and a watcher is the opposite?
 
I agree. It's such a crappy position too. We're all going with little more than gut feelings at this point.

I still think Star is our safest choice since her role claim story is weak, but I'm willing to accept that she could be town. Hopefully, she'll use her power tonight and come back with good info.
 

Natiko

Banned
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Haha that was so cool
PK what are your thoughts currently? I don't recall you sharing many opinions at all over this day phase. You've just popped in to post a gif and say some fluff.
I still think Star is town (she really does seem to be playing like the town Star I've seen in my past games), but after Style's claimed role proved false, I am feeling a bit more hesitant to take her claim at face value. I wouldn't be opposed to testing a lynch on her if she can't prove her ability/alignment within the next few days, but I'm feeling suspicious of Zipped so I'd really rather go with him. I'll definitely agree that it's a shame we only have circumstantial evidence for our options. We're lucky we got 2 scum in a row at least, the momentum is on our side in that regard.
If Star continues to not use her power I'm going to assume it's because she's lying and doesn't want to be caught making up info. Simple as that. Letting her live could be playing right into scum's hands but they don't appear to have multiple kill options so living one extra night shouldn't harm us too much even if she is scum.
 
I still think Star is town (she really does seem to be playing like the town Star I've seen in my past games), but after Style's claimed role proved false, I am feeling a bit more hesitant to take her claim at face value. I wouldn't be opposed to testing a lynch on her if she can't prove her ability/alignment within the next few days, but I'm feeling suspicious of Zipped so I'd really rather go with him. I'll definitely agree that it's a shame we only have circumstantial evidence for our options. We're lucky we got 2 scum in a row at least, the momentum is on our side in that regard.

But that's the thing: If she's really town, how much longer could she possibly live after her role claim? I'd be shocked to have her survive the night, because even after Vanguard's role reveal, he's just a vanilla townie versus her having a power role.

Unless they attack Vanguard because they think we'll do their job for them and lynch Star if she survives the night.

That near-mislynch has me shook. I'm so confused.
 

Verelios

Member
I still think Star is town (she really does seem to be playing like the town Star I've seen in my past games), but after Style's claimed role proved false, I am feeling a bit more hesitant to take her claim at face value. I wouldn't be opposed to testing a lynch on her if she can't prove her ability/alignment within the next few days, but I'm feeling suspicious of Zipped so I'd really rather go with him. I'll definitely agree that it's a shame we only have circumstantial evidence for our options. We're lucky we got 2 scum in a row at least, the momentum is on our side in that regard.
So your plan is to wait two nights?
 
But that's the thing: If she's really town, how much longer could she possibly live after her role claim? I'd be shocked to have her survive the night, because even after Vanguard's role reveal, he's just a vanilla townie versus her having a power role.

Unless they attack Vanguard because they think we'll do their job for them and lynch Star if she survives the night.

Star has brought up how long she lived after claiming in PW Mafia before, but I do admit that I think it's unlikely she'd live too long, considering the nature of her supposed power this time around. I do think Vanguard is, as a confirmed town, a very likely target. We shouldn't be too surprised if they target him at all, especially considering the level of suspicion directed towards Star by some of our most vocal members.

So your plan is to wait two nights?

At least one, because it would not be strange for Vanguard to be prioritized as a scum kill. Beyond that? I think Star is town, but I only have one vote so I can't hold back town if they decide to lynch her (and I'm not discounting the possibility I could be convinced to vote for her myself). I do think lynching her today is a poor move.
 
I agree. It's such a crappy position too. We're all going with little more than gut feelings at this point.

What's the difference? Does the tracker only get to see who someone went and visited but does not get to see who visits them and a watcher is the opposite?

Yeah. Could have watched Vanguard and seen if anyone targets him. Then again I could still end up dying with my luck.

There's always No Lynching but that's probably not a good idea.

Hrm...
 

Natiko

Banned
Scum so far has been targeting town's more active players. I'm not sure that they'll go for Vanguard despite him being 100% cleared for us and other players aren't. Then again they could change it up just because this is the first 100% cleared player we have actually had.
 
Town
Natiko
Flat Earth Panda
Hyperactivity
WhereAreMahDragonz
Plop

Slight Town
Starsketch
Pkgaming
Verelios
Franconp

Null
11037
Zippedinhead

Slight scum
II-Vanguard-II

Scum
Exmachine64
Matt Attack

Okay so i thought about this a bit over night.

-Everything he has said has been fluff and questions. From day 1 till now have you ever seen him post a reads list or any in depth comments about fellow players no he keeps it really light.
-Was one of the first to unvote Style as soon as he roleclaimed yet does not want to give Starsketch this same chance while she really has not had many scum tells.
-Didn't even defend himself on day 1, like it was already determined who would take the fall and surprise it was the guy with no power, meanwhile Style and Ex live to see another day.

My theory
3 scums messed up on day 1 and immediately called suspicion on themselves
Exmachina
Exodus
Style

With Style roleclaiming there was no option for either Ex or Exo to do the same. So Exo took the fall with the added bonus of Exmachina getting big town vibes just for getting voted on by Exodus.

I keep it light because Exodus almost got me lynched and I'm town. We've seen the most active users be killed each night phase and I worry that if I do even an adequate job, I'll get killed during the night. Keeping to myself and trying to be inactive helps that, however, that does make it easier to be read the way you're reading it.

I wanted to take the pressure off Style so he would feel more at ease and hopefully trip up. No one from the remaining players has had many scum tells, but we either have to make a guess from gut feelings or not lynch anyone today -- an inactive PR is an unfortunate casualty, but I'd rather do that than lynch a town that's contributing more.

I didn't bother defending myself on Day 1 because I thought I was going to be lynched. That may not sound like the strongest justification to all of you, but this is only the second time I've played Mafia with GAF. The first time I got lynched on Day 1 because I made a stupid comment. I went hard against Exodus because of a gut feeling and I initially thought Sophia's end-of-day post was that he was an innocent Persona user. I didn't know I should focus on the role message instead of the flavor text. So I spent the entire first night phase thinking I had fucked up and I was going to get turboed on Day 2. The scum have killed our strongest players, so I'm just worried about fucking everything up again.

I doubt any of this will convince you since I'm confirmed scum in your mind, but you also considered Vanguard likely scum.

Anyway, since you want a list of reads:

My strongest reads currently are BlackBuzzard, StarSketch, and PK.

BlackBuzzard: He's trying to bus me with this weird conspiracy theory that I willingly (gleefully?) went rogue and helped lynch two scum. He's been strongly pushing me as scum since Day 1, I'll go back through his post history and try to link appropriate posts if I survive to Day 4.

StarSketch: I think most of us aren't comfortable with the idea that she sacrificed using her power on the first and second nights and could have helped steer us toward scum. She wanted to preserve her own life, perhaps at the cost of a town victory. I don't want to be overly suspicious of her, but most of the players aren't really active and with no one talking and providing info from night phases, we're just getting nowhere.

PK: I've suspected him since Day 1. His posts mainly consist of a quip and a meme/gif. I don't think he's a PR. We know he's watching the thread, but trying to be as inactive as he can. Besides that, he keeps trying to divert suspicion away from my other suspects.

If I'm killed during the night, town should focus on StarSketch and BlackBuzzard.

Star, you might be town, but you really need to produce some info for the next day phase.
 
Scum so far has been targeting town's more active players. I'm not sure that they'll go for Vanguard despite him being 100% cleared for us and other players aren't. Then again they could change it up just because this is the first 100% cleared player we have actually had.

They might elect to save his death for later in the game as well. One of the downsides of his role reveal is that while we know he's town, we can also be pretty sure he doesn't have any threatening abilities for scum beyond his vote (meaning that a kill of him won't take out a doctor or what have you). Considering he's not been super active (you are right they've been going for those players), they might be content to leave him as he is until they need a quick kill that tells town little. That raises the chance that they go for Star or if they're content to let us lynch Star, then somebody completely unrelated.
 

Natiko

Banned
I keep it light because Exodus almost got me lynched and I'm town. We've seen the most active users be killed each night phase and I worry that if I do even an adequate job, I'll get killed during the night. Keeping to myself and trying to be inactive helps that, however, that does make it easier to be read the way you're reading it.

I wanted to take the pressure off Style so he would feel more at ease and hopefully trip up. No one from the remaining players has had many scum tells, but we either have to make a guess from gut feelings or not lynch anyone today -- an inactive PR is an unfortunate casualty, but I'd rather do that than lynch a town that's contributing more.

I didn't bother defending myself on Day 1 because I thought I was going to be lynched. That may not sound like the strongest justification to all of you, but this is only the second time I've played Mafia with GAF. The first time I got lynched on Day 1 because I made a stupid comment. I went hard against Exodus because of a gut feeling and I initially thought Sophia's end-of-day post was that he was an innocent Persona user. I didn't know I should focus on the role message instead of the flavor text. So I spent the entire first night phase thinking I had fucked up and I was going to get turboed on Day 2. The scum have killed our strongest players, so I'm just worried about fucking everything up again.

I doubt any of this will convince you since I'm confirmed scum in your mind, but you also considered Vanguard likely scum.

Anyway, since you want a list of reads:

My strongest reads currently are BlackBuzzard, StarSketch, and PK.

BlackBuzzard: He's trying to bus me with this weird conspiracy theory that I willingly (gleefully?) went rogue and helped lynch two scum. He's been strongly pushing me as scum since Day 1, I'll go back through his post history and try to link appropriate posts if I survive to Day 4.

StarSketch: I think most of us aren't comfortable with the idea that she sacrificed using her power on the first and second nights and could have helped steer us toward scum. She wanted to preserve her own life, perhaps at the cost of a town victory. I don't want to be overly suspicious of her, but most of the players aren't really active and with no one talking and providing info from night phases, we're just getting nowhere.

PK: I've suspected him since Day 1. His posts mainly consist of a quip and a meme/gif. I don't think he's a PR. We know he's watching the thread, but trying to be as inactive as he can. Besides that, he keeps trying to divert suspicion away from my other suspects.

If I'm killed during the night, town should focus on StarSketch and BlackBuzzard.

Star, you might be town, but you really need to produce some info for the next day phase.

Hmmmm...
 

Natiko

Banned
Did I say something wrong?

I believe you just committed the same mistake that got TheExodu5 lynched. You used the term bus which (from my understanding) is only used by the scum team to signify scum sacrificing scum or piling on with others. Something like that.
 
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