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Persona Mafia |OT| Memento Mori

What? Who is it: natiko or plop? I'm asking everyone to really scrutinize. Logically, we have a decent chance of a scumlord. They're both doing pretty decent at appearing town and may in fact be. The question is, if you had to finger one of them as scum, who would it be?

And hyper, what the fuck are you doing? Let's see some life, hombre.

Between the two? Natiko. I've pegged him as town but between the two of them I think he's slightly more scummy, in that he does a pretty good job of giving reads and has been so actively pro-town the entire time. I know that's kind of stupid reasoning, but it's the kind of attitude I would imagine a very crafty scum member would display.
 
Between both of them? I'm leaning plop. Plop started better but lately seems more eager to please. Natiko seems a stronger town player now. The post on Vanguard was quite good. I still don't think either of them are scum.

I think someone on Exodus may be scum. Town credit is a big thing.

Man, I really need to learn what I'm doing to give off scummy vibes and knock it off.

And I know that me saying that probably gives off scummy vibes but it's true.

You think? You think? I've already said we know each other. And no, i'm not stupid or scummy enough to flagrantly break the rules like that.

I made a pretty basic prediction and was 100% on point about it.

Okay, sorry. It's been a hectic week. Things have gotten lost in the shuffle.
 

franconp

Member
Man, I really need to learn what I'm doing to give off scummy vibes and knock it off.

And I know that me saying that probably gives off scummy vibes but it's true.



Okay, sorry. It's been a hectic week. Things have gotten lost in the shuffle.

I just think your post where better the first day. Now they seem ok with every theory, like you are trying to gain acceptance from town instead to trying to look for scum.

But I still town-read you.
 
"Song of the Fallen Angel"

The fallen angel is chained down.

Her wings torn off, eroded by prejudice,
her last breaths full of black despair...
Do you know her name?

Will she eventually return to nothing,
forced into the realm of oblivion.....?

--------------No!
Her requiem will become a roar
And tear away the mask of hypocrisy!

Do you know her name,
she who will strike down the cowards and tear down the lies?

That's right, her name is.......

What is it?

starsketch (1)
exmachina64 1357

plop (1)
flatearthpandas 1416

ii-vanguard-ii (1)
natiko 1509

zippedpinhead (1)
matt attack 1550

Day Ends:

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Majority is at 8
 

Natiko

Banned
Between the two? Natiko. I've pegged him as town but between the two of them I think he's slightly more scummy, in that he does a pretty good job of giving reads and has been so actively pro-town the entire time. I know that's kind of stupid reasoning, but it's the kind of attitude I would imagine a very crafty scum member would display.
I'm honored that you think I'm this skillful in my first mafia game. Reality won't pan that out though.
 

Verelios

Member
Yo, star. Verelios.
Let's get some plop and natiko reads.

There's some logic in start being alive, kind of. Flux was a word choice but there is logic there. Style called him out as being a pr and he never really denied it. Kind of crafty, really.
Plop had a surpringly good showing last day phase, much better than day 1. He was active, constructive and giving off a towny vibe, which I did like, but day 2 was generally dead man walking day, so I'd put him in null/lean town position.
 
You need to get your eyes checked, chief. I explicitly said she acts like Yukiko, not The Priestess. Yukiko = / = Priestess. The fact that Yukiko is of the Prietess arcana is coincidence.

In a game where everything is scrutinized, even throwaway comments like that will be scrutinized.
 
vote: style

I'be been working on a theory, but I think all it will do is get me killed today. Day 1 when we come back I will post my theory. Style being scum doesn't impact The theory, but I do feel his Lynch is the most likely for thto day.

Did anything happen with this?

Yo, star. Verelios.
Let's get some plop and natiko reads.

There's some logic in start being alive, kind of. Flux was a word choice but there is logic there. Style called him out as being a pr and he never really denied it. Kind of crafty, really.

-rereading all of their posts and thinking really damn hard, please stand by-
 
Plop: Probably town because why would a scum player do this. Granted, it would be a good (albeit grief-y) way of getting Townie points if he is scum. Also that last sentence (of the quoted post about Exodus' slip) actually makes me wonder if Plop was originally trolling, but then back tracked when called on it. Who knows.

Natiko: I don't see anything wrong with him? I'm trying really hard to weasel something out from his post history and it's just basically what Dragonz is saying but without the 'faking it really hard' filter? So, Town?
 
Im gonna need help here I guys

I need to sleep now and shit but Im done with college apps for the time being

Holy fucking shit that took way too fucking long for too many nights in a row. Filling out the same shit over and over again because all colleges think they're some special snowflake or some shit.

Can someone give me he klowdown?
 
what the fuck was that shit seously colleges get your shit together on this monotous shit ffs wtf why did that take so fucking long that form filling should be 30 minutes done once wtf wasted time it wasn't even worth it in how much time it took up=
 

Natiko

Banned
Im gonna need help here I guys

I need to sleep now and shit but Im done with college apps for the time being

Holy fucking shit that took way too fucking long for too many nights in a row. Filling out the same shit over and over again because all colleges think they're some special snowflake or some shit.

Can someone give me he klowdown?

what the fuck was that shit seously colleges get your shit together on this monotous shit ffs wtf why did that take so fucking long that form filling should be 30 minutes done once wtf wasted time it wasn't even worth it in how much time it took up=
I think Hyper is broken.

Main topics since day start are franconp getting mysterious PMs (probably), StarSketch claiming tracker and if she's Town or scum, if Vanguard is Town or scum, and FEP thinks either myself or plop are possibly scum. There was also a theory of three scum floated by Verelious that wasn't discussed too much.
 

Natiko

Banned
Really hope those that are quiet start sharing thoughts soon or we're going to end up with shenanigans occurring at day end or a lynch on someone with just 2 votes.
 
Town
Natiko
Flat Earth Panda
Hyperactivity
WhereAreMahDragonz
Plop

Slight Town
Starsketch
Pkgaming
Verelios
Franconp

Null
11037
Zippedinhead

Slight scum
II-Vanguard-II

Scum
Exmachine64
Matt Attack
 

Natiko

Banned
So i was right from the start and Style was scum /shocked

Star you are not giving me good vibes here, i find it weird that you haven't at least used your power once. At this moment im not going to vote on you because i do not see any reason for it.

Matt Attack your defence of Style just struck me as odd even with all of Style's shady behaviour you still believed he was town and had a role.

Exmachine you decided to withdraw your vote from Style because you didn't want to make it easy for scum, yet you are now the first person to start a vote on Star who has acted far less shady then Style outside of trying to unvote at the last minute.

Fran frankly i do not believe your night pm, i don't even see the reason for such an item so maybe im missing something here.

Town
Scum
Exmachine64
Matt Attack
Exmachine you decided to withdraw your vote from Style because you didn't want to make it easy for scum, yet you are now the first person to start a vote on Star who has acted far less shady then Style outside of trying to unvote at the last minute.
I can see suspecting Matt Attack because even though he shares in depth thoughts he hasn't done so many times and they've been off the mark at times, though I personally don't read him as scum. You're going to need to give me more to go on for why you scum read exmachina than what you listed above earlier in the day phase.
 

Verelios

Member
It would really be an odd case where Style and TheExodu5 wanted to bus Exmachina...it's a possibility, but I don't see it happening and barring that he's town to me.
 
I can see suspecting Matt Attack because even though he shares in depth thoughts he hasn't done so many times and they've been off the mark at times, though I personally don't read him as scum. You're going to need to give me more to go on for why you scum read exmachina than what you listed above earlier in the day phase.

Okay so i thought about this a bit over night.

-Everything he has said has been fluff and questions. From day 1 till now have you ever seen him post a reads list or any in depth comments about fellow players no he keeps it really light.
-Was one of the first to unvote Style as soon as he roleclaimed yet does not want to give Starsketch this same chance while she really has not had many scum tells.
-Didn't even defend himself on day 1, like it was already determined who would take the fall and surprise it was the guy with no power, meanwhile Style and Ex live to see another day.

My theory
3 scums messed up on day 1 and immediately called suspicion on themselves
Exmachina
Exodus
Style

With Style roleclaiming there was no option for either Ex or Exo to do the same. So Exo took the fall with the added bonus of Exmachina getting big town vibes just for getting voted on by Exodus.
 

Natiko

Banned
Did exmachina really "mess up" though? Wasn't the initial suspicion on him just over a single vote and then scum TheExodu5 exaggerated it and pushed for him to be offed in an attempt to save himself?

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I'm at work and can't really scour post history currently but that's my memory of day one.

My big issue with exmachina as scum is that I strongly believe Vanguard is scum so why would three of them push that hard against exmachina? I can see how two scum dueling to the death could be beneficial for them in the long run but they stacked the odds AGAINST exmachina with their votes, not for him. For me to buy into your theory that would mean they actually wanted TheExodu5 to win out of the two and they came up short. That would make more sense because they would have three scum on the vote for someone that flipped scum, giving them all more credit. It just went awry when Sorian and Hyper pushed more people to vote last second.
 

Natiko

Banned
There really isn't much excuse for the lack of participation going on right now. We've only had four pages of posts across this day phase. Anyone could catch up in a minimal amount of time. We're sitting at a five way tie at one vote a piece right now. It's really starting to seem like this is going to be decided at the last moment tomorrow. I'll say this much though, I am strongly against letting this result in a no lynch due to inactivity. I will also be suspicious of anyone that just steps in at the last moment and casts votes to tilt the scales suddenly unless it happens to result in a scum flip. I'm really not sure what all is going on but there's so many people that haven't contributed it's clearly not just a case of scum hiding. The rest of the players need to join us, share some thoughts, and get votes down so we can avoid some fucked up day end.
 

Verelios

Member
The ironic thing is people will just grow more reserved until voting time now.

Alright, let's inject some juice into the thread. In the spirit of fairness, I'm picking a name out a hat and we can go down the roster. What's everyone's opinion of Hyper today, it can even be a single word adjective, I'll start.

'Doesn't inspire confidence, but other than inactivity I can't fault him for anything else. Well, that and fluff. And I haven't trusted him completely since day 1's vote move, still regarding all that, I can't fault him for doing much against town's interests.
 

franconp

Member
The ironic thing is people will just grow more reserved until voting time now.

Alright, let's inject some juice into the thread. In the spirit of fairness, I'm picking a name out a hat and we can go down the roster. What's everyone's opinion of Hyper today, it can even be a single word adjective, I'll start.

'Doesn't inspire confidence, but other than inactivity I can't fault him for anything else. Well, that and fluff. And I haven't trusted him completely since day 1's vote move, still regarding all that, I can't fault him for doing much against town's interests.

I don't trust Hyper. He has been lying several times and has defended people I read as scum. I have a theory about but I will keep it to myself at the moment.
 

Natiko

Banned
Currently I'm null on Hyper, but he's closer to scum than Town still. He was one of my bigger suspects in the previous day phase but I've upgraded him for a few reasons:

1. My opinion of Vanguard has shifted to being even scummier (Hyper has also mentioned his concern about Vanguard before)
2. My opinion of BlackBuzzard has shifted closer to null (Hyper's defense of him was one of my biggest concerns at the time)
3. I don't think scum Hyper would pull such a hard swing from very active to not at all active.

Ultimately what it comes down to is I just have bigger suspects currently than him. I'm also not inclined to lynch him over a single stretch of inactivity when he has been helpful previously. I have a small theory as to why he has been so quiet but I'm not sure I want to share it currently. I would rather see how things play out first.
 

Natiko

Banned
Just saw franconp's post and based on his read of Hyper I'm going to add that I think his theory is probably not the same one I have.
 

franconp

Member
Just saw franconp's post and based on his read of Hyper I'm going to add that I think his theory is probably not the same one I have.

My theory is not about his inactivity. I will go with it later in the game. I need more info and I want to be able to vote.
 

Natiko

Banned
My theory is not about his inactivity. I will go with it later in the game. I need more info and I want to be able to vote.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. My theory would place him more towards being town, but I don't want to discuss it until I see how things unfold.

I really need to try and wrap my mind around who all is scum to me. The general consensus seems to be that three scum are left right? Vanguard is still number one for me. From there it gets tricky. There are a lot of people that feel iffy in different regards but none of which are very concrete reasons to list them as scum. For instance we've had a few shaky accusations in the last couple day phases from different people (for instance the exmachina one from BlackBuzzard), but I don't think that's a good enough reason to list them as scum. Especially when right now it would be very easy for scum to take a back seat and just not discuss anything at all.

In some ways, the fact that Star has slowly disappeared back into the ether now that the heat isn't on her too much makes alarms go off a bit for me. At the same time though if she is telling the truth and trying to be left alone by scum this is exactly what she would want to do in that situation too.
 

Verelios

Member
I don't trust Hyper. He has been lying several times and has defended people I read as scum. I have a theory about but I will keep it to myself at the moment.
This is about half my concern. I dislike Hyper's conduct but I can also understand, well maybe not understand, more like accept that his opinions being 'eh' doesn't mean they aren't thought out and possible. It's just that I don't believe in that possibility.
Currently I'm null on Hyper, but he's closer to scum than Town still. He was one of my bigger suspects in the previous day phase but I've upgraded him for a few reasons:

1. My opinion of Vanguard has shifted to being even scummier (Hyper has also mentioned his concern about Vanguard before)
2. My opinion of BlackBuzzard has shifted closer to null (Hyper's defense of him was one of my biggest concerns at the time)
3. I don't think scum Hyper would pull such a hard swing from very active to not at all active.

Ultimately what it comes down to is I just have bigger suspects currently than him. I'm also not inclined to lynch him over a single stretch of inactivity when he has been helpful previously. I have a small theory as to why he has been so quiet but I'm not sure I want to share it currently. I would rather see how things play out first.
The thing with Hyper is, he hasn't done anything against town's interests, fine. He also hasn't alleviated my concerns about him playing a long con, which I can't prove one way or the other, so I'm left slightly bitter and forced to say that yes, Hyper is productive(usually) and yes, maybe I'm being overly suspicious. I still find it hard to trust him.

Though, it might be like what Natico said and I'm just more interested in other players while neglecting others.
 

Natiko

Banned
This is about half my concern. I dislike Hyper's conduct but I can also understand, well maybe not understand, more like accept that his opinions being 'eh' doesn't mean they aren't thought out and possible. It's just that I don't believe in that possibility.

The thing with Hyper is, he hasn't done anything against town's interests, fine. He also hasn't alleviated my concerns about him playing a long con, which I can't prove one way or the other, so I'm left slightly bitter and forced to say that yes, Hyper is productive(usually) and yes, maybe I'm being overly suspicious. I still find it hard to trust him.

Though, it might be like what Natico said and I'm just more interested in other players while neglecting others.

I get that. Like I said he is closer to scum than town in my mind. I just am reluctant to make him my lynch target for the day when I think there are better candidates. Not to mention if he is town losing him would be one of the worst results for us.
 
Sorry guys and gals, I've been at work. Just about to drive home now, then up in 8 hours for a 16 hour shift. When I get home, I'll post some thoughts before passing out for the night.
 

11037

Banned
Got no internet right now, on mobile and can't search the thread. My apologies.

Hyper is an interesting player to me. He had posted a lot and but after reading them I don't trust him. He had the weird end of day one voting shenanigans and his posts since then haven't been as thoughtful as they were on day one. Null, leaning scum.

Anyway,

VOTE: Zippedpinhead

Zipped has been an interesting player to me. Low posts and low activity since the start. I was willing to excuse it but it is day three and I feel Zipped isn't helping town, and is a scum trying to get by. He posted a weird read lists and that "theory" about PK and Fran just feels like an attempt to get town to lose sight of actual scum.
 
Uhhhh

Hyper posted last night about college applications and seemed really exhausted

So im thinking the lack of activity this day phase is because of that?
 

PK Gaming

Member
What are your thoughts on Hyper?

With an experienced player like him, tying his activity to a faction is pointless. He would know that he'd have to go in hard even as a scum, which leads me to believe he might actually one. HyperActivity is especially dangerous because of the player he replaced. Think about it; Rats off to Ya made like 5 posts then bailed. We barely got to interact with him and then HyperActivity replaced him and started moving the game at his own place. A player like that is inherently dangerous, especially if they're scum.

Suspicioussssssss
 
Okay, I'm home.

Quick list of where I think everyone sits, then a tiny bit of explanation. I will absolutely be here to vote on a lynch target tomorrow (real time, not game time), but I want more time to dwell. At the moment, I'm leaning toward Vanguard but I want to sleep on it.

Town:

Flatearthpandas

Leaning town:

exmachina64
Natiko
Verelios

Null:

Matt Attack
PK Gaming
WAMD

Leaning Scum:

11037
franconp
Hyperactivity
StarSketch
BlackBuzzard

Scum:
II-Vanguard-II
Zippedpinhead


With both Zipped, the main issue I have is that he seems to be posting just enough to get by. There don't seem to be many revelations in his posts, and his activity level is just enough to (mostly) escape suspicion.

Hyper is interesting. I notice he's become the latest hot topic of discussion, but I'd like to point out (so I'm not accused of bandwagoning) that I've been on him for a bit. He came in as a replacement and was immediately very active, as if to try and counteract the heat that Rats Off To Ya was getting for not participating enough. He immediately wanted to steer narratives and has now suddenly gone quiet. However, I do understand the pull of real life responsibilities, so I can't necessarily hold that against him. Also, he was among the first to call out Exodu5 as scummy, but it's entirely possible scum had decided to bus Exodu5 after he slipped up and used the term "bus," thus giving away his scum role (which, if true, weakens my position on FEP slightly, due to the fact that my position for him as a townie rests almost completely on his being the first vote cast against Exodu5...).

Star rubs me the wrong way, but I'm halfway to throwing up my hands and sticking her in null. She's quiet, for the most part, but nothing huge really stands out to me as super scummy. If you remove her pre-game fuck up (which I've stopped considering as a clue, because how would anyone be that dumb), the only thing that really sticks out to me is the fact that she's still alive after claiming a power role.

Her defense for why she's still alive basically boils down to "I'm too bad at the game to want to kill." Sorry, but that doesn't hold water for me. As a wise old saying
that I just made up
goes: "A foolish person with a gun is more dangerous than a wise man with an empty hand." What I'm saying is, no matter how bad you claim to be at the game, why would scum risk leaving a known powered up townie alive?

And her quote here after Night Two ended has an eerily similar tone to Style's post here after Night One ended, in that both seem resigned to their fate after realizing they were under the spotlight, and each pointing out how nobody believes them anyway so whatever (with Style writing his excuses out in several posts, and Star doing it in one). Star even goes on in the post linked above to (weakly) attempt to cast shade on anyone questioning her by saying:

Heck if i were scum, I'd be pushing as hard as possible to get the scumiest looking townie killed...hmmmmmm.

What? I mean, yeah, that's possible. But it's just as easy to say "If I were scum, I'd try to throw shit back at anyone pointing the finger at me," which is what Star was doing. She does the same weird finger-pointing here, where she uses the "you'll look like scum when it's proved I'm town, so best not lynch me" defense. As if town doesn't accidentally lynch town sometimes. I think I get what she meant, but the sentiment struck me as odd.

I'd say if she survives night three, she's scum, because her power seems to be one that becomes all the more useful the longer she's left alive.

Franconp has moved from town, to null, to (very) slight scum for me. Mostly because of two things: How argumentative he is when voted for (he seemed upset when I RNG'd him way back in the beginning and then just did it again to Zippedpinhead), and because of his "magic night gravy" story. Something about it doesn't add up. I've been trying to figure out what, and I think the problem is the 2 HP claim.

He says that he got the gravy and once he used it, he received a message that it restored 2 HP after a run in with scum. I get that the use of HP is flavor, but doesn't idea that he had 2 HP restored after a scum attack imply he was targeted to be killed but the spooky gravy saved his life? If so, who tried to kill him? If scum, then who killed Flux?

It's not that I don't trust franconp, but that story leaves more questions than it answers, so by default, I have to view him as less than trustworthy until things get cleared up.

Vanguard kinda stinks like scum right now. I know he's also an easy pick, but maybe it's because the smell is just that strong. Inactivity isn't really the issue here. Instead, it's the odd posts, like this one, where he tries to throw scum at Natiko for Natiko insisting we not rush our lynch of Style (as if it's a bad thing to be deliberate in our discussions and voting...and this is coming from me, who wanted Style lynched the moment Day Two started).

Compounding that is his attempt to defend himself as town by saying his RNG vote against Style at the beginning of Day One is somehow proof that he really wanted Style lynched.

Also, this little blurb from Style to Vanguard (when pressed by Vanguard to explain why Style was calling him scum) always read a little off to me, and I've finally figured out why:

Sure it's fueled by OMGUS, but I still don't like how you low key started a RNG vote and then did basically nothing for the rest of the day. Is it a bad read? Sure, my reads are horrible.

How strong does that quote make you feel about Style's certainty of Vanguard's guilt? To me, it doesn't work at all. He hounds a man and calls him scum, then basically says "but nobody should listen to me and actually vote for Vanguard because my reads are the worst anyone has ever had and should never be taken seriously." It reads to me like staged fighting; like two people who aren't really enemies having a fake argument while winking at each other.

As I write this, I'm realizing more and more that I'm probably going to be voting Vanguard. I'll wait till I wake up to be sure, but I can't see any compelling reason not to.

Of course, if someone wants to persuade me to change my mind, please do so. I'm open to any and all discussion.
 

Natiko

Banned
I'm pretty firmly sticking with my Vanguard vote minus a scenario where I have to unvote to avoid a tie or move my vote to one of two other candidates that are tied at day end.

On the topic of Hyper, one thing I didn't mention that's sort of lessened my suspicion of him from day two is how the events have played out. We had a bare minimum of two scum mistakes day one. Vanguard and Style are both generally viewed as a concern by most of us. Let's say even just one of them turns out to be scum. That'll be three scum dead over unnecessary mistakes. Style and Star both roleclaimed out of the blue to various extents. TheExodu5's is more understandable because it was literally just one word slipped on. Vanguard has a whole string of iffy posts as I've shown. Maybe this is too meta, but part of me finds it hard to believe a scum team with Hyper on it wouldn't have come up with at least a slightly more cohesive strategy other than "role claim and live for one day then be doomed to your fate the next one until we all die".

Here's my basic thoughts. Anyone not listed is a light to strong town read.

Scum
II-Vanguard-II - I have detailed this in depth in post 1561.

StarSketch - I'm still iffy on where I stand on her. Not even attempting to use her power on night two still reads as strange to me when she knew if she lived through the night we would suspect her, especially after that day end. If she lives to day four I'll be taking a strong look at everything she says.

Leaning Scum
Hyperactivity - I'm really back and forth on him. The dangerous thing about Hyper is he's one of the best players left in the game. He could go about things from just enough angles to make every argument for or against him have a believable counter argument. Minus new evidence I expect him to just eventually get lynched if he's survived enough night phases to be deemed too suspicious to allow to keep living.

Verelios - This primarily stems from your top scum list and subsequent reasoning. I wouldn't put you in my top three suspects, but you're above null because on such a slow day pushing an angle that didn't seem super convincing kind of read like you were hoping to steer us towards who you wanted and didn't expect much resistance since there's so few of us actually contributing. Not a strong read on you but I do have a bit of concern.

Null
franconp - I think I believe your PM story, but there's still the chance that your restriction is actually related to some role you have. I also still don't understand how the item worked. Just in general a bit of a question mark here.

BlackBuzzard - Tied to Hyper. If he'a scum I would look to you shortly after. Part of me thinks your exmachina theory is interesting in the context of them trying to lynch scum exmachina to give them all Town credit only to have it fail, but most of me reads it as completely wrong since exmachina is more likely than not Town.

11037 - You're not that far off from being in the Town group, but voting for Zippedpinhead primarily due to activity when you yourself don't have much more than him isn't the greatest of looks.

PK Gaming - I still think my early suspicion of you due to the hard swing from not active to very active had some merit. The fact that in recent times you've not posted much but to defend Star doesn't look spectacular either.

Zippedpinhead - So this boils down to a couple of things. It doesn't feel like you have particularly contributed much at all throughout this game. You haven't shared many opinions really as far as I recall. What I find very interesting as well is you were the next to last vote on Style, a mere six posts before Star's "accidental" deciding vote. You're close to getting bumped up to leaning scum.

WhereAreMahDragonz - I do find the repeated defense of Star a bit odd when you haven't contributed a ton in general. Seems like you have life stuff going on so I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but boy would that be a dirty tactic to pull if you flip scum.
 
Okay, I'm just going to make it official.

Vote: II-Vanguard-II

When your best defense of yourself being town is an RNG vote for known scum that was later dropped, there's an issue there.

Before the end of Day Three though, I want to check on if anyone still in the game has had Vanguard's back. The thing that worries me a bit is that I can't seem to recall any real support for him, despite him being on a lot of scum lists. If he's had this much heat and nobody trying to cover for him, that would read town to me.

I'll check on it and my vote will change of my comfort level changes. Right now tho, I'm comfortable voting Vanguard.
 
Still haven't found strong living links.

Did find this:

Why do you think I'm still sitting on Vanguard? Both Style and Exodus linked to him earlier in the day phase. If he flips town, thatat least gives me less ammo elsewhere. Your actually question is loaded tho, knowing for sure that fran is town would mean a lot since he's made a lot of reads today but I don't want him flipped yet either.

If he flips town, I'm gonna be pretty bummed, mostly because it means his weak defense of himself and lack of posting really is due to Final Fantasy XV, which is just really shitty to do to us after signing up and committing to this game.
 
Why I'm scum? So far you have been caught twice lying so it better be good if you want to make a convincing case.

Twice? Just once and I admitted it. I hadlooked at the wrong place day 1 and had not realized you had voted. I still think you are more likely scum enough to vote.
 

franconp

Member
Twice? Just once and I admitted it. I hadlooked at the wrong place day 1 and had not realized you had voted. I still think you are more likely scum enough to vote.

Twice. We have this too:

I ask because of post 1259, which I think is what got flux killed. You and PK haven't really "communicated" in the game, which is weird. Both of you are fairly prolific posters, but the lack of conversation yesterday is weird. With style actually being scum, well it makes the lack of conversation stand out. Neither of you really talked to or about style on day one.

I already stated in post 1481 that I have talked with and about Style on day one. There are a few of the more important ones.

I'm still waiting to hear why I'm scum besides me working with PK (which I'm not).
 
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