NoFaceNico
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How are some people in this thread upset about N****R and at the same time they're defending someone using the word cracker? Yeah, that's real progress there, guys.
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How are some people in this thread upset about N****R and at the same time they're defending someone using the word cracker? Yeah, that's real progress there, guys.
My cousin's children (6 and 9 years old) actively watch this guy and talk about him a lot. They are basically being raised by their internet-illiterate grandparents who are really doing their best but don't know what the kids are doing a lot of the time.
PDP should not be watched by impressionable people, but he is. If youtube had a way to block his videos from children (which would probably be impossible to implement), what he says would still be garbage but at least it would only be seen by those who have already made up their minds on things like this (for better or worse).
Free speech is free speech. He should be allowed to say what he wants. Even is it is terrible. But he can't at the same time expect to be paid for it. And he should expect to be called out.
I just feel bad. The internet has such amazing potential to bring people together and allow us to understand one another. But it sometimes feels like only the opposite is happening.
PDP should not be watched by impressionable people, but he is. If youtube had a way to block his videos from children (which would probably be impossible to implement), what he says would still be garbage but at least it would only be seen by those who have already made up their minds on things like this (for better or worse).
Free speech is free speech. He should be allowed to say what he wants. Even is it is terrible. But he can't at the same time expect to be paid for it. And he should expect to be called out.
I just feel bad. The internet has such amazing potential to bring people together and allow us to understand one another. But it sometimes feels like only the opposite is happening.
karasu
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This isn't gaming culture. It is the culture of white privilege. This is the world.
How do you even fix your lips... "cracker" is a term created by white people. Its not the nigger equivalent you want it to be.
GlitchyDegree
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Yeah but people won't use a racial when they are frustrated unless they are racist themselves.
Exactly. As a non-native English speaker you have no excuse for using that specific construct, there's no context in which you could learn it as such and get so used to it that you let it slip. You have to "force" yourself to use it very often in order to have this as the first thing that comes to you "in the heat of the moment".
ScientificPizza
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That's a huge assumption to excuse common knowledge
BreezyLimbo
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The worst part is I know Twitch nor Youtube will take any action against PDP(I'd love to be proven wrong), and there's going to be a bullshit response about how it's just a word and some bullshit, and then Ethan Klein is going to come in and be like 'WOW THIS DEVELOPER IS THREATENING A TAKEDOWN OVER A WORD, THAT IS WRONG BLAH BLAH WE JUST WON A COURT CASE HERP'
And oh my god it's so frustrating, that's the worst part. PDP has done shit like this before, and now it's gone full circle with this bullshit and he can still go along his merry way.
And oh my god it's so frustrating, that's the worst part. PDP has done shit like this before, and now it's gone full circle with this bullshit and he can still go along his merry way.
Iced Arcade
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sadly enough it was probably on purpose just to gain attention to remain in the spot light WHICH is working.
he's such a twat
he's such a twat
ah yes, cracker
lets look back at the history and awful connotation of that hateful word
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*looks at watch*
... oh, well... that was fast.
DalikSkywing
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https://www.polygon.com/2017/9/10/1...polygon&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
Hope every devs start doing this.
Hope every devs start doing this.
There is a huge intersection between gamers and the far right, there's no hobby that nurtures the far right as much as gaming.
Earthbound64
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Like flies to a bugzapper.
Psychoward
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as a white person, cracker isn't offensive personally. And historically it's not even close to the n word.
NoFaceNico
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So I guess you don't mind if I call you that from now on? Okay
cr_blah_blah
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You typed cracker out but not the n-word. Care to guess why?
King Tubby
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I'm not a big fan of either word, but you're kind of comparing a stubbed toe to a severed leg.
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean.
Yearsoflurking
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Not a fan of either word but let's please not compare them thanks. One doesn't even have a negative connotation and isn't a byproduct of oppression and white supremacy
Haha, wow.
Are you for real? Cracker is not a word with hundreds of years of oppression and slavery behind it. It's a nothing insult.
only if you're angry
RoyaleDuke
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I wonder how is it I never posted any racist jokes or memes or said any racial slurs while playing a video game. Or be sexist or misogynistic.
It doesn't make any sense if you have a modicum of empathy, sympathy, understanding and maybe a soul.
Fuck this dude, he's always been an annoying piece of shit, who passes on his shitty sense of "humor" that he probably got from going to places like 4chan, aka a flaming internet dumpster, to the next generation.
We can't wait for the racists to die out, they are always pruning the next generation.
It doesn't make any sense if you have a modicum of empathy, sympathy, understanding and maybe a soul.
Fuck this dude, he's always been an annoying piece of shit, who passes on his shitty sense of "humor" that he probably got from going to places like 4chan, aka a flaming internet dumpster, to the next generation.
We can't wait for the racists to die out, they are always pruning the next generation.
Go right the fuck ahead lmao, get over yourself
Psychoward
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Username1198
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Yea exactly!
Remember when black people enslaved all white people and called them crackers while they whipped them?
Oh wait that didn't happen. Stop comparing the words.
The deliciousness of this is not lost.
Castef
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Why even hide behind this "both sides" veil?
Palette Swap
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Don't worry, at some point TotalBiscuit will come out to act like a reasonable mediator, to show how enlightened the middle of his road really is.
Gaming has the personalities it deserves tbh.
This is a very bizarre Hill to die on.
Psychoward
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Also fwiw the guy who called him a cracker got banned so idk what the argument is here.
ArchedThunder
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Cracker does not have anywhere near the same bloody, violent history as the n word and you pretending they're the same thing is honestly infuriating.
Yes white supremacy is everywhere but video games have been a perfect safe space for white people to indulge their all-white fantasies and let loose all the racist shit they're not allowed to say in public.
So I'm just pointing out that there's a very special manifestation of white supremacy in video game culture and it has been like this for decades and it's one of many reasons you have so many bigots in video game culture who start terrorism campaigns because women exist
Most people here wouldn't dare say that shit to a black persons face in any country. They know what it means.
Uno Venova
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Watching someone fight for their right for racial slurs says a lot about them.
Cracker is like the least offensive or traumatic thing for any white person has been called. I have never once had my life negatively impacted by being labeled a cracker. But millions of black people get profiled as n*****s.
I really don't care. I would laugh if someone called me that irl
NoHeDidn't
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Sadly just like with the Alex Jones,Rush Limbagh and Steve Bannons of the world there are more than enough finger pointing racists to keep them rich and successful.
And enough with the "reverse racism" BS,funny the anti pc crowd clutch their pearls when offended.Honestly until black people start hanging whites,dragging them behind trucks and control the justice system to unfairly treat and murder whites with inpunity then the white anger can start.
And enough with the "reverse racism" BS,funny the anti pc crowd clutch their pearls when offended.Honestly until black people start hanging whites,dragging them behind trucks and control the justice system to unfairly treat and murder whites with inpunity then the white anger can start.
karasu
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I think this conflates the ubiquity of gaming with an actual culture, group, or political stance. There is a huge intersection between white people and the far right. The far right are nurtured by white people. Everywhere.
Crimson_Echidna
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Don't be a juvenile little shit, try to understand context and have a little empathy for once in your privileged life.
NoFaceNico
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Then why not use it in normal conversation? Or I dare you to start a topic here with that in the thread title. Go ahead.
It's an offensive word, the only reason you guys justify using it here is because someone in this thread is using it to attack someone who said something you consider to be worse, as if that makes any sense.
This is why nothing is accomplished by these threads. Popular guy on the internet uses offensive term, internet mob reacts just as badly because they feel like they earned a free pass, and life goes on with people using both offensive terms.
Can you even read? I'm arguing that people shouldn't attack with racial slurs on either side, no matter if "one is worse"
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