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[watershed]

I still do not believe that he truly is a racist or white supremacist. Of course as a man in his position it is the uttermost wrong thing to say, but I do not feel like he is a staunch racist.

Please define 'truly racist' and 'staunch racist'. Are you saying he only drinks diet racism and not full calorie racism? He's racist. He uses racist language and has expressed racist views publicly. He may not hate people based on their race but he has clearly consumed and believes in racist ideas and has no problem casually using racial slurs.

 

[Paganmoon]

He's Swedish and half of their country still uses that word to this day to describe a delicious chocolate so I'm not sure him using that word carries the same weight.

I'm very late to this, but I would like to point out that this is simply NOT true. I haven't heard that word uttered to describe the chocolate balls he's refering to in almost 2 decades.
The use (or the "want of use", more like as it's still not used often) of the word has gotten some traction with the far right as of the past few years as a talking point about PC-culture and pearlclutching "we can't even use this word to describe our favorite candy anymore!"

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

I still do not believe that he truly is a racist or white supremacist. Of course as a man in his position it is the uttermost wrong thing to say, but I do not feel like he is a staunch racist.

I think that there's this idea that: You're racist if you actively hate black people or are against their basic rights or something.

The thing is, racism can be way more insidious than that, like for example using the n-word as an insult.

 

[Mahonay]

I still do not believe that he truly is a racist or white supremacist. Of course as a man in his position it is the uttermost wrong thing to say, but I do not feel like he is a staunch racist.

There are different levels of racism. Not everyone is wearing a white hood. Most people fully understand that.

 

[LotusHD]

Honestly, why bother giving them the satisfaction

 

[Drillary Clinton]

Don't even respond to that post up top.

 

[watershed]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on the vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire voculabory? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Top of the page no less.

 

[Gaogaogao]

I still do not believe that he truly is a racist or white supremacist. Of course as a man in his position it is the uttermost wrong thing to say, but I do not feel like he is a staunch racist.

how do you explain how he conflates the n-word with assholes?

 

[Chairmanchuck]

I still do not believe that he truly is a racist or white supremacist. Of course as a man in his position it is the uttermost wrong thing to say, but I do not feel like he is a staunch racist.

Wearing a SS uniform as a "joke", doing a "social experiment" about Death to all Jews, using "Hitler did nothing wrong" memes in his channel and selling a T-Shirt with him doing the Hitler beard with his finger isnt enough it seems. Now he said the N-word and even that still isnt enough...

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Can you stop talking for all Europeans. In Germany Neger is a racist word as well as in all the countries in Europe I have been to...

Also what the fuck is that argument? Its in your dictionary, so that makes it okay? There are a lot of slurs in the German dictionary. Doesnt make them less racist...

 

[Gandie]

Another guy "in the middle" who has a lot of views and subs educating people on the matter. Says he hasn't made up his mind yet where he stands.

https://youtu.be/7wGDvthZ0ng

I really don't understand that stance. So they can't decide if they are pro-racism or not? Can't they clearly see the way PDP used the word? I'm 28 born and raised in the UK and I've never heard it being used like that by anyone around me.

What the fuck is that video. Unbelievable.

 

[Clegg]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

It absolutely does. Only the most ignorant of people would say it doesn't. We're inundated with American pop culture through TV, radio, internet, books etc.

 

[PhantomThief]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Except I'm from Europe too, The Netherlands, and everyone knows if you call someone a neger or negro you are a racist prick. If you call a person of color anything like that and they will likely knock you on your ass ( and for good reason ).

Sorry man, but you are totally wrong. So very wrong Id love for you to admit it, read a damn book on the history of black people and slaves in the USA in general to get some damn perspective.

 

[Good Guy Gone Bad]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Oh gosh, you've had 44 pages to read and realize how wrong you are but decided against it.

How unfortunate.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

I asume you're spanish like me?.

No, "negro" is not our equivalent, "negrata" is, which is totally used as an insult and is totally racist.

 

[Dangansona]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

"Stop being a butthurt" says the clearly "butthurt".

 

[Mahonay]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Are you 12?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

I continue to be disappointed in this thread every time I open it.

 

[oti]

Another guy "in the middle" who has a lot of views and subs educating people on the matter. Says he hasn't made up his mind yet where he stands.

https://youtu.be/7wGDvthZ0ng

I really don't understand that stance. So they can't decide if they are pro-racism or not? Can't they clearly see the way PDP used the word? I'm 28 born and raised in the UK and I've never heard it being used like that by anyone around me.

Just burn it down.
Burn all of YouTube down.

 

[kmax]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Everytime racist shit goes down, alt accounts pop out from the woodwork.

It's like clockwork.

 

[patapuf]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Nonsense. There's some differences between what's rascist in the US and Europe but "nigger" is clearly offensive everywhere.

Also, i'd read up on slavery in europe. You might be surprised.

 

[BGBW]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

It's not just an American term. It's offensive in the UK as well (part of Europe).
He's streaming from the UK.
It doesn't matter what it means in your language, when you're streaming in English, words have their English definition.

 

[cws]

Yeah i guess another one who is willing to sacrifice that one alt to get his post quoted all over the thread.
By quoting this crap you help them spread the message.

 

[Dryk]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem.

Uhhhhh, the USA bought its slaves off of Europeans dude...

 

[Booker Dewitt]

I still do not believe that he truly is a racist or white supremacist. Of course as a man in his position it is the uttermost wrong thing to say, but I do not feel like he is a staunch racist.

Not personally believing in the acts I perpetuated doesn't absolve me of them.

 

[danthefan]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

I live in Europe too, nobody uses the word nigger where I'm from (unless they're racists obviously) and it's not acceptable at all to casually drop it into conversation. There is a pretty obvious problem with the word, it has nothing but negative connotations.

 

[N7.Angel]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

wtf...

 

[Paracelsus]

It all boils down of

"there's 150 different insults to any degree you can use before you even resort to the n-word. If you go straight for the n-word, if that's the first thing that comes to mind, you are racist".

 

[Rushersauce]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Good bye and go fuck yourself.

 

[ScaryShark]

I still do not believe that he truly is a racist or white supremacist. Of course as a man in his position it is the uttermost wrong thing to say, but I do not feel like he is a staunch racist.

He might not go to Klan meetings but he's definitely complicit in making racism 'funny' or a thing people can be comfortable being on the Internet. Given how much of his audience is impressionable kids or teenagers it's just as bad, just not as blatant and obvious as the white supremacist yokel from your hometown.

 

[Oynox]

How often do you just casually let slip the n-word as an insult?

Not sure if it had the same connotation in English, but in German the word for gay was used as a synonym for "shit" or "fucked up", still not everybody who used it is a homophobic person. It is not nice and in due time not acceptable anymore because language changed again and also the whole acceptance for gay people changed positively , but the gist of this: just because you say something, some word, it does not make you part of any "group" of people.

However I do understand the uproar of course because he is a public person and as that has to accept more accusations as others and I also understand that especially fellow gamers are upset because it is our hobby which also gets dragged in the dirt. I never liked him and always was ashamed that people believed he would be a "gamer".

Edit:

Reading some other answers to my post: no I do not think that the word contains no racism.

 

[Krabboss]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Just wondering, do you shout out the word for the colour black when you're upset, just randomly? Do you think perhaps, in this moment of frustration, PDP reached deep within himself to say a word he didn't know the meaning of? Or do you think, maybe, you're being disingenuous about your understanding of the word so that you can defend racism? The question is rhetorical btw, I know the answer.

By the way, love to see nerds defending PDP as if being called racist is much worse than bring called the n word.

 

[JohnMatrix]

He's Swedish and half of their country still uses that word to this day to describe a delicious chocolate so I'm not sure him using that word carries the same weight.

Here in Australia "Coon" is a well known brand of cheese (comes from the surname of a cheesemaker)

Despite this complex nuance, if someone says "fucking coon" in frustration or anger, there is no confusion as to whether that person is a racist arsehole or not. They're a racist arsehole.

 

[BigDes]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Shitty US culture like not racially demeaning people?

How about we try this instead, you stop being a racist fuckwit.

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

 

[hbkdx12]

It's actually incredibly easy to both come out and say "Hey fuck Pewdiepie that racist shitstain but also here are my reservations about developers using copyright takedown functionality in ways it's not intended to be used." You're not forced to be stuck in some weird position where you have to be lumped in with youtube shitters who are afraid to call out their own if you want to talk about the DMCA thing.

What Boogie is saying, is not that. He's doing this wishy-washy bullshit he always does because he's a fucking pussy.

To be honest, although they're related, i hate that PDP's language and the DMCA are being spoken about in the same conversation. They both merit their own individual conversations without relying on the other.

Which is why Boogie trying to cape for "everyone in the middle" is so detrimental because it just muddies the conversation where it's not going to take a strong leap in logic to see someone conflate the two issues by saying something along the lines of "I'm against the way Firewatch used the DMCA violation and as such Youtubers should be allowed to use whatever kind of language they want"

 

[Drillary Clinton]

Not sure if it had the same connotation in English, but in German the word for gay was used as a synonym for "shit" or "fucked up", still not everybody who used it is a homophobic person. It is not nice and in due time not acceptable anymore because language changed again and also the whole acceptance for gay people changed positively , but the gist of this: just because you say something, some word, it does not make you part of any "group" of people.

However I do understand the uproar of course because he is a public person and as that has to accept more accusations as others and I also understand that especially fellow gamers are upset because it is our hobby which also gets dragged in the dirt. I never liked him and always was ashamed that people believed he would be a "gamer".

If you just casually say the N word, you're a racist. It's cut an dry.

 

[ViviOggi]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

 

[DrKelpo]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Calm down there, dude.

I don't know where you're from, but in Germany Nigger, Neger, Negro etc are all unacceptable or at the very least highly controversial terms.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

I don't get this.

In Europe there's a big problem with racism by fans or players in soccer targeted to people of colour, especially those with black skin.

I'm not sure how some can reach this conclusion.

 

[Don Draper's Hat]

Why are people defending this utter fuckstick? I just don't understand why they would want to. It makes no sense.

Or are they just trying to defend their right to say such abhorrent things?

 

[TatteredHat]

USA it's not Europe. Don't import your shit there. The nigger word in Europe doesn't have all the "slave" background, and atleast for me, when i hear that word i can't see the problem. In my country, the equivalent word "negro" is even on our vocabulary, and no, it's not racist.
Of course you can use it in a racist way, as you can use every other work as a racist insult, so, we have to ban the entire vocabulary? Stop being a butthurt, and don't import shitty USA culture here in Europe.

Uh yeah it does, but that nonsense excuse especially doesn't hold any water when you're using it whilst speaking english in an online game with a worldwide audience.

 

[Mr Swine]

Quicky ran through the middle of the thread.


Anyone born in Europe needs to stop the fucking bullshit about him not really understanding what the word means. Im black born and raised in the UK, but now living in Canada. Growing up around many people who came from other EU countries, people most definitely knew what the fuck Nigger means, no matter what race/ethnicity you were.

So please stop the fucking bullshit.



Im so fucking tired of people in Europe claiming they're not racist, racism isnt a big deal "here" or certain words dont hold the same weight because he/she wasnt born in America.


JUST. FUCKING. STOP

I'm born and raised in Sweden and I know the word means. Problem is that many swedes are in fact racist piece of shits. I've heard time and time again people referring black people as he N word and whatnot in my job and out in the open.

They don't say it openly when there are foreigners or people of colour nearby. My grandparents that visited Sweden in the late 60's and 70's said that Swedish people where racist

 

[Mahonay]

Why are people defending this utter fuckstick? I just don't understand why they would want to. It makes no sense.

Or are they just trying to defend their right to say such abhorrent things?

They are racist.

 

[Ladekabel]

Good if the racist come out of the hiding if you ask me:

I tweeted at Playerunknown if PDP will be banned because of this. If people get banned for team-killing on video and stream-sniping surely they should do something about this, right? Though I'm not getting my hopes up...

 

[disappeared]

I've never seen a graveyard develop this quickly.

 

[Drillary Clinton]

I don't get this.

In Europe there's a big problem with racism by fans or players in soccer targeted to people of colour, especially those with black skin.

I'm not sure how some can reach this conclusion.

Man have you ever played Pro Clubs on FIFA? Everyone's characters are these grotesque, deformed looking people with the darkest skin setting. It's disgusting.

 

[watershed]

I don't get this.

In Europe there's a big problem with racism by fans or players in soccer targeted to people of colour, especially those with black skin.

I'm not sure how some can reach this conclusion.

It was an alt account from a bullshit poster. Europe has plenty of racism towards black people. No intelligent European can come into this thread and honestly say that Europeans are above racism without lying.

 

[Creepy]

God I hate these fucking streamer dickheads.

Just ban them already, they've been filling kids head with garbage long enough.

None of them have anything to say.

 

[Oersted]

24 posts since 2014. I love alts.


To those who read this thread silently and wonder if the alt account has a point. No, he doesn't. It is not case of the n word being exported, it is a case of the n word being imported by Felix.

He knows what it means and he used it as a slur.

 

[cws]

Honestly you guys are getting played by that "europe" argumentation....it couldnt be further from true...just some racists throwing everything at the wall to justify actions and hoping that something sticks.

Watch future streamers use..."but i grew up in europe" as an explanation.

Then again it worked for Trump....so if something gets repeated/quoted often enough it might stick.