Microsoft could cure cancer and aids and end world hunger and their share wouldn't suddenly be bigger than the playstation. It's just how things are.
This was the beginning of the end for me. I've bought every Xbox console apart from the series because they've made it so you don't need one lol. Ridiculous.Im so fucking happy i decided to build a PC rather than get a Series X. What a freaking joke.
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Bolded, italicized, enlarged, and font color changed for emphasisIt's how things are because they have utterly failed to provide excellent games to their consumer base that compete with the competition, now for over a decade.
What they're doing is a complete disruption to how console platform holders have operated in the past.It sure is. It's also a last ditch effort. It's their only shot after being consistently beaten and outmaneuvered, generation after generation. He's admitted that today. But there's nothing at all that's shrewd or strategic. It's as uninspired as a plan can be.
It's a plan that comes from losing. It wasn't their plan when they started xbox and it wasn't their plan during the 360 days or when the introduced kinect and xb1.
I do not really agree with that:Truth is, there is a small handful of studios that can create software that sells consoles, and you can count those studios on one hand. Xbox has none
Figured this should probably have its own thread, given the implications of what Spencer is saying.
Timestamped video from Kinda Funny Xcast:
Here, Spencer basically says there's no way the Xbox can compete with Sony and Nintendo, and then goes on to say that making great games wouldn't help Xbox compete.
I find this attitude utterly baffling, and I think we're now at the point where this dude needs to step away.
Whole quote here, provided by Heisenberg007 :
This is what happens when your whole identity is being a particular product shill. Your fate is tied.
And it has worked brilliantly. It is amazing to me how Sony has been able to keep a steady string of good quality exclusives. They know how to manage their studios. Sony is also excellent at keeping things in the pipeline so that if there is a delay they have something ready to go.There's no reason to get an Xbox Series X if you can just buy a PC.
If he wants people to buy an Xbox, he needs better solutions. Sony's solution was to release their exclusives 3-4 years after their debut on consoles.
Digital Libraries are basically for BC. The vast majority of people dont care about BC. This is one thing I agree with Jimbo on. All that hoopla over Xbox's amazing BC and no one gave a shit. PS5 still selling like hotcakes.You know last other and I got laughed at for saying this whole digital library PS4 generation was an absolute loss for Xbox and Gamepass wasn’t helping matters and now we have Phil Spencer saying they lost the worst generation to lose because of digital libraries.
Exactly. I look back at Uncharted Drake's Fortune and as great as it was, it wasnt until Uncharted 2 came out did the series finally achieve its full potential. Same goes for Assassins Creed 1 to AC2, Demon Souls to Dark Souls, and Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 2. I cant believe MS never greenlit a Ryse 2, Sunset 2, Quantum Break 2, and straight up cancelled Coalitions New IP which they revealed at E3 2014 in trailer form. Insmoniac went on to achieve insane success with Spiderman, Remedy won awards for Control (imagine if that had been an MS exclusive) while Coalition were forced to develop derivative Gears sequels that didnt move the needle.No one bats. 1000. You have to try though. They're the ones that are actually able to take more risks but Their plans come off as not even wanting to try. It's obvious. They want guarantees.
the issue is that Xbox is a distance #3There's nothing wrong with being #2 or #3. Do you think Nintendo cries about it
He's been amazing. He just called out Phil Spencer for saying that redfall's shit launch is on us. Said if you are accepting responsibility then refund the last two months of gamepass. Otherwise its just empty words.I don't typically like Jaffe's opinion on things but he is going OFF on Phil right now given his experience with Sony.
he's honestly bewildered its hilarious
but the CMA at least already agreed that the console argument from sony doesn't work. so it would be a weird appeal to themThis is calculated talk to the eu and uk. Dont believe he actually think this.
I'm sorry,did that fucking peasant just compare Redfall to Death Stranding......the absolute fucking nerve,lol.Jesus H. Crist man, the guy is having a meltdown, again, not to be petty but i really don't understand, he's a shill, yes, and yet, it still doesn't excuse all that...pathos and zeal on display, it really doesn't...
It really must be some kind of mental disorder, there's no other excuse, i actually feel sorry for the guy right now
Jaffe just destroyed him when he said Redfall's failures are a learning experience. He's like you should already know, you have been the CEO for 10 years already. Learning on the job for 10 years????It's not just how things are.
It's how things are because they have utterly failed to provide excellent games to their consumer base that compete with the competition, now for over a decade.
The 360 era from 2006 - 2010 was some of the best years of gaming. Exclusives like Mass Effect, Halo 3, Bioshock. Gears of War, Alan Wake and being the perfect platform for Call of Duty.Absolutely baffling line of thinking.
Xbox already came from irrelevance. They did it before with a little console called... the Xbox. It was a distant third place in the first generation it released, before the brand was catapulted to success with the 360. What did it was smart pricing, release timing and most importantly: a killer lineup. The 360 absolutely shit on the PS3 for the first couple of years. Every kid I knew wanted a 360 over a PS3. That 2007 lineup is still the stuff of legends, up there with PS2's 2001.
I just feel bad for them when sony announces that showcase... Just thinking about the possible game announcements there.
Because they have Microsoft money and they couldnt do it the other way.What they're doing is a complete disruption to how console platform holders have operated in the past.
You said it:LOL @ it being a last-ditch effort.
What they're doing is a complete disruption to how console platform holders have operated in the past.
Yeah. It guarantees an IPs pipeline and plays in a field Nintendo and PlayStation couldn't match unless they were acquired by Apple or Amazon.There's a reason why Microsoft is all in and willing to pour hundreds of billions of dollars into it.
It doesn't take 20 years to realize that they have more money than most every other company on the planet. They attempted to compete and could not. Now, buy everythingWho claimed it was their plan in the past?
OK. You're Darkmages alt. I get it now.Smart businesses can readjust and move forward once they determine a path that will lead them to their desired outcome.
It's an attitude problem, and what allowed Redfall to come out in the state it was. It's basically, we're giving these games on a service and we're ok if they are mediocre because we don't and no one cares. It's a really self defeating attitude and actually explain why they fucked up so much for such a long time.Phil is right that if Xbox released 10 bangers a year that all score 100 amongst critics they still wouldnt be #1. There's nothing wrong with what he said. There's nothing wrong with being #2 or #3. Do you think Nintendo cries about it
He literally said they can't out console Sony or Nintendo which to me implies they are trying and he knows they can't
Bullshit.
Back in 360 times xbox had mountain of high quality exclusives, and many multiplats ran better on their console too...They tried. I really loved the OG and the 360. They are still plugged in side to side.
Because he has seen first hand, that those awards he has stacked on his shelf mean nothing, unless he can absolutely justify them, which apparently he cannot. The man himself literally and seemingly doesn't know what he's doing and seems lost. Probably tells people that the biggest issue with Xbox, is that the upper management is clueless from Spencer & Booty to Greenberg and it needs either a shakeup, a complete change in their thought process and approach to things or a complete restructuring from the inside. Clowns don't fit in I'm afraid.This is honestly embarrassing
That interview was insane. The guy who runs Xbox doesn't even have confidence in Xbox or the staff he has producing games.
But their handheld sold 74m units, with 24m in Japan.Previous nintendo console sold 13 million units. Solidly third place.
Just saying.
Shills be shilling.I'm sorry,did that fucking peasant just compare Redfall to Death Stranding......the absolute fucking nerve,lol.
Don't cry we still have GamePass.The Activision Blizzard merger collapse destroyed this man.
It's not just how things are.
It's how things are because they have utterly failed to provide excellent games to their consumer base that compete with the competition, now for over a decade.
Nintendo doesn't, because they are number 1 right now?Phil is right that if Xbox released 10 bangers a year that all score 100 amongst critics they still wouldnt be #1. There's nothing wrong with what he said. There's nothing wrong with being #2 or #3. Do you think Nintendo cries about it
Your $2 refund will be back on your credit card in 5-7 business days.He's been amazing. He just called out Phil Spencer for saying that redfall's shit launch is on us. Said if you are accepting responsibility then refund the last two months of gamepass. Otherwise its just empty words.
I mean, it's not like the head of Microsoft said this in the last earnings call, or anything:
People love to bring up when he said they view apple as competition, not Sony, as the need arises. He's literally just saying that they "are not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo". It's the same thing