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Phil Spencer "There are no “red lines” for which Xbox games will come to PlayStation". Still Looking for Acquisitions, Sees Future Growth.

It's just a bad photo of Phil. He never combs his hair anymore either, so looks a bit frazzled.

I don't think he's "sick".....he probably just realized how fat he had gotten and decided to lose weight.
 

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Giles

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As a kid growing up in the 90s I enjoyed the Sega mega drive and SNES before moving onto PS1 and 2 but when the Xbox 360 came along during my late teens it was a revelation for the online gaming scene with Halo and Gears. That’s the last gen I’m nostalgic for because of the memories with friends but as an adult married in my mid 30s with a baby on the way I welcome Xbox going multi-platform as I can’t justify two consoles for the little gaming time I have but when I do have time it would be nice not to miss out on some exclusives from one side.

I feel like I’m going against the grain here with that sentiment and don’t know what it means for the cost of gaming with Sony having less competition but the pros outweigh the cons for me. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
My bet is on Hellblade 2 coming to PlayStation next. Could look really amazing on the PRO. Starfield and Avowed will likely come later next year. The question is whether I will sell my Xbox.
 
One thing that we're not talking about here is the delay of the mobile store. It was slated to come out in July, and now they are essentially going back to the drawing board with it too.

This is what S SneakersSO had to say about it:
This 'thing' has to exist simply so they can be seen as 'competing' in the space, but its just a money vacuum.

I think theres a lot to talk about RE: the app stores for Google and Apple and their dominance in the app space, but its a conversation that boils down to my belief that the hardware makers and OS makers shouldn't also be the store owners. Play Store and the App store should be spun off. These companies are just far too large for the consumer's good. Competition is being stifled, as is innovation. But MS' approach is to merely say hey, you should let us carve out a space amongst your marketshare, while basically hoping they can either buy out the content makers (app devs), or just buy store exclusivity. The 'hook' MS hopes will be the difference is the Xbox ecosystem itself.

My opinion that is the Xbox eco nowadays merely only boils down to GP, which has made it super easy to drop in and out of said eco. Its not like Steam or Nintendo or PSN, where users are primarily buying software licenses, and its access to said licenses, as well as ease-of-access and community, that is keeping them in the ecosystems. The App stores themselves are also very similar in that regard. A GP subscription gives me full access to the benefits of the Xbox eco, but it also makes it super easy for me to leave, since I have no investment in it.

Microsoft is hoping this mobile 'expansion' will lead to enough market disruption that they can have a stronger mobile foothold, but none of the factors needed for that to be real seem to coming to fruition. In order for this to have a reasonable shot at working, MS would need to make their app store the exclusive home of their entire app line. Everything from Teams to the Office suite of apps, to Xbox apps and others, would need to be exclusively offered via this store front, and this includes the mobile apps from the ABK purchase. I simply don't see them having the appetite to cut off that much revenue or putting it at risk. There are loads of app makers out there who would thrive in the vacuum they'd leave in the Play Store/App Store ecos, and i'm only talking non-gaming here. Sure, if they pulled Minecraft exclusively into this store front, you'd have a ton of users install it purely to access Minecraft, but thats about it. They enter a similar situation as Epic and EGS, where EGS as a platform is simply stood up entirely by Fortnite, while they burn all their cash trying to get it turned into a store front that the userbase simply doesn't care for.

There is nothing Microsoft can do to undo the ramifications of them leaving the mobile space a decade ago, no matter how much they try. They should save themselves the money and move on, and focus on making software folks wanna use instead.
 

Astray

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This 'thing' has to exist simply so they can be seen as 'competing' in the space, but its just a money vacuum.

I think theres a lot to talk about RE: the app stores for Google and Apple and their dominance in the app space, but its a conversation that boils down to my belief that the hardware makers and OS makers shouldn't also be the store owners. Play Store and the App store should be spun off. These companies are just far too large for the consumer's good. Competition is being stifled, as is innovation. But MS' approach is to merely say hey, you should let us carve out a space amongst your marketshare, while basically hoping they can either buy out the content makers (app devs), or just buy store exclusivity. The 'hook' MS hopes will be the difference is the Xbox ecosystem itself.

My opinion that is the Xbox eco nowadays merely only boils down to GP, which has made it super easy to drop in and out of said eco. Its not like Steam or Nintendo or PSN, where users are primarily buying software licenses, and its access to said licenses, as well as ease-of-access and community, that is keeping them in the ecosystems. The App stores themselves are also very similar in that regard. A GP subscription gives me full access to the benefits of the Xbox eco, but it also makes it super easy for me to leave, since I have no investment in it.

Microsoft is hoping this mobile 'expansion' will lead to enough market disruption that they can have a stronger mobile foothold, but none of the factors needed for that to be real seem to coming to fruition. In order for this to have a reasonable shot at working, MS would need to make their app store the exclusive home of their entire app line. Everything from Teams to the Office suite of apps, to Xbox apps and others, would need to be exclusively offered via this store front, and this includes the mobile apps from the ABK purchase. I simply don't see them having the appetite to cut off that much revenue or putting it at risk. There are loads of app makers out there who would thrive in the vacuum they'd leave in the Play Store/App Store ecos, and i'm only talking non-gaming here. Sure, if they pulled Minecraft exclusively into this store front, you'd have a ton of users install it purely to access Minecraft, but thats about it. They enter a similar situation as Epic and EGS, where EGS as a platform is simply stood up entirely by Fortnite, while they burn all their cash trying to get it turned into a store front that the userbase simply doesn't care for.

There is nothing Microsoft can do to undo the ramifications of them leaving the mobile space a decade ago, no matter how much they try. They should save themselves the money and move on, and focus on making software folks wanna use instead.
The biggest benefit and drawback of Nadella's reign at MS has been their sharp focus on optics:
  • The app store has to exist because they need to signal that they are not afraid of Apple/Google, even if it's a complete DOA project.
  • The Xbox is not failing, it's the entire market that's failing.
And you are completely correct, if Microsoft ditches Apple and Google stores to convert people to go there, people will just not care. The network effects are just too strong there and Microsoft is coming in too late to shift those currents. Even previous installers of like, Candy Crush will probably stick there because Microsoft has to push updates to them for like security etc.
 
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