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Pillars of Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment (Kickstarter) [Up: Teaser]
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piratepwnsninja
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Well, this is an Obsidian game...
Of course. It's just refreshing to hear it. One thing I've really enjoyed about Kickstarter, at least for a few of the developers, is the behind the scenes thinking that goes on for the projects. I mean, I've been working on games for 7 years. I often wish I was in a position to have these sorts of candid conversations with fans and explain our thinking with certain things. So I guess part of it for me is being envious too.
PastorOfMuppets
Banned
It looks like this game is doing about 60K/day so I figure at this rate, it might end up being the most successfully funded video game Kickstarted ever in terms of pure gross.
I assume the intent was to *almost* be Infinity without infringing on anything!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Its like...he's an actual writer
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
I believe it was something to do with the renegotiation rights for the license.
superdeluxe
Member
I told feargus that I had heard George Ziets had some time on his hands, and he responded he has heard the same thing heh. Feargus is such a tease heh
Kickstarter page link should always be at the top.
Okay, fixed that. Will add updates below the Stretch Goals from now on.
SerArthurDayne
Member
Thanks, I agree with the advice, and it will definitely help newbies and me when I am curious to check progress.
Also just upped my donation to 250.00. Still hope they do a 300 tier for a non-signed hardcover book, because even 250.00 is more than I have any right to be spending, and I know I will need to sell a kidney to hit $500. Book and signed box soften the blow a bit, and maybe some new freebies will come along later.
edit: Hey! Apparently it comes with two digital copies now. I think it is new. They have silently added things like the strategy guide, digital goodie bundle, etc. Anyways, If I sell one or both digital copies for cheap to buddies I can more easily justify the 250 tier. Obsidian- Give me 4 digital Copies with $500 and I can lie to myself enough to justify the bump.
It's like he's peering into my soul and telling me just what I want to hear.
Sentenza
Gold Member
They just need to kickstart a new Tie Fighter, then I can play it and die smiling.
Anyway, I'm following this campaign with great interest about what they are going to say and show, but as soon as it's closed and they stop releasing updates I want forget about this game very quickly.
Otherwise waiting for it is going to be soulcrushing.
exmachina64
Banned
Same here.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Heh. I decided to raise my pledge to $120, if only for the physical-ness of the game. (International shipping is expensive.)
That should help a lot with my bandwidth caps. That way, I should also be able to gift someone a digital copy. Hmm... Who would that lucky soul be?
That should help a lot with my bandwidth caps. That way, I should also be able to gift someone a digital copy. Hmm... Who would that lucky soul be?
WorstUsernameEver
Member
Turn-based was bad but easy to endure. Real time was basically "random encounters" mode. Still a good game, despite how imbalanced it is!
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Have they confirmed if we'll get a busty, shy female companion to easily romance?
specialguy
Banned
Because everybody remembers Baldurs Gate so fondly....that was the golden age of PC gaming.
This thread sucks because the game is so far away.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I hope this game is far more Fallout/Arcanum than Baldur's Gate.
Maybe it's just my distaste for the AD&D system.
Maybe it's just my distaste for the AD&D system.
WorstUsernameEver
Member
The twist is that she's an elder horror that devours your soul with the tentacles between her legs. And she's also a cultural Marxist.
I think the problem with the (A)D&D systems in BG1/2, IWD1/2 and PST is that those were written for turn-based combat (PnP). In the case of Obsidian, they are purposely doing real-time w/ pause, so they can write an entire combat ruleset that exploits it better than the D&D system ever did (pretty sure most people enjoyed ToEE combat though).
Or did you mean the stupid counterintuitive "smaller is better" in AD&D? It still confuses me to this day since I started with 3.0E.
Actually I doubt if there'll be any romances. With Sawyer as project lead I highly doubt he'd allow romances, Avellone writing them or no.
I disagree. Sawyer is extremely accommodating in terms of what to include in a given game as long as there's a place for it. NV is a poor example because there was never companion romance in the Fallout series to begin with. All of Sawyer's other games never made it to the market.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
All this does is arouse me further.
I honestly don't know. Planescape's writing soars, but I'm not a big fan of Baldur's Gate to be honest. The entire Baldur's Gate series is in my "unlikely to ever replay and don't have particularly glowing memories of" basket, whereas I'm much more drawn to Fallout and Arcanum. I'm not sure what it is about the AD&D formula, but it so happens to be in my least favourite acclaimed CRPGs.
But then there's Planescape, so there must be something there I like.
I disagree. Sawyer is extremely accommodating in terms of what to include in a given game as long as there's a place for it. NV is a poor example because there was never companion romance in the Fallout series to begin with. All of Sawyer's other games never made it to the market.
He would most probably be disapproving of romances that lead to sex, to the disappointment of EatChildren.
Shake Appeal
Member
Just companion marriage!
Romances should be there, they just should make sex insignifficant, not climax like Bioware does it, because it's stupid. There should be an emphasis on a relationship, sacrifices, may be jealousy. If a companion done well people will care about her/him and designers will be able to use that attachement to enhance some dramatic moments/hard choices.
Unfortunately it seems that Bioshock Infinite will explore relationships first, i.e. just a shooter, not an RPG.
Edit: enhance, not alleviate
Unfortunately it seems that Bioshock Infinite will explore relationships first, i.e. just a shooter, not an RPG.
Edit: enhance, not alleviate
whalleywhat
Member
NV is a beautiful romance between me and Cass. We have a dog and everything. Also, Tabitha and Rhonda.
Yeah, BG2 did it good: One romance will be over if you choose sex (and not in the good way), one has a character who uses sex without emotions - so it's unimportant in the romance, and one has it only at the very end. And all sex is implied sex.
Are you saying no RPG has ever explored relationships? You're wrong.
While the branding's not likely to happen for obvious reasons, I'd love to see Holland/Kilham regroup and try one. Although I have no idea what Kilham's up to these days, but Totally Games theoretically could do one.
We do still have Chris Roberts' mysterious project on the cards, but we know little about that... and besides, it's not quite the *same*, is it?
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
That was a great lil' bit on character writing.
So, it's a good game but also a shitty game?
Are you saying that RPGs need to have shitty mechanics in order to be called RPGs?
Please tell me that's not what you are saying.
So, it's a good game but also a shitty game?
Are you saying that RPGs need to have shitty mechanics in order to be called RPGs?
Please tell me that's not what you are saying.
He's saying that it's a good RPG despite having many deficiencies in game mechanics. (I agree)
May be Planescape did it, I'm yet to find out, but I can't remember any other RPG except The Witcher2 where a relationship was meaningful. May be some japanese indie game has it but I don't have a platform to play them
Play BG2. Romances there were amazing, even if they were terribly buggy.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Planescape totally did it.
Witcher 2's romance is only passable in the context of "well they are together in the books, so I guess that's cool". Triss and Geralt barely have a relationship in TE2.
Because they are more like fuck buddies that's why she was so concerned about his memory of yennefer. World of witcher and what witcher experienced earlier is established. In books Triss also was second and always had hots for Geralt. Problem was that Geralt had love-hate relationship with Yennefer. So when Geralt got fed up with Yennefer or they had big fight usually Triss was there somewhere looking for her chance.
Also it isn't told in games but sorceress and wizards have rather intriguing sex life, first they have sex like minks after few decades of learning magic in magic shool (meaning no sex in school), after 10-20 years they start to experiment with other gender, after they learn that it isn't that different they stop to have sex altogether. And few interested can make orgasm on whim by magic to her/himself or to anyone they want. They mainly do it with other magicians mainly from friendship not love. Of course this is generalization but there are cases like Filipa (from witcher 2) which was mainly lesbian and in books she was at some point in relationship with Triss.
Most of magicians aren't in love relationship so cases like Triss or Yennefer are rather unique.
Lore is amazing in my opinion and i didn't even mentioned that most of magicians in reality were/are ugly including Triss and Yennefer. Magic is used mainly for selfish reasons.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Man, I have nightmares to this day having to resort to console commands to get Jaheira's romance working.
Sentenza
Gold Member
I didn't read these books myself, but I've also been told (and I found quite interesting as idea) that often those (female) mages don't shape themselves as beautiful women just for vanity or lust, but because they realize it's an excellent tool of manipulation, when dealing with men.
And that, by the way, is the reason why every single female caster in The Witcher looks like the playmate of the year.
superdeluxe
Member
Someone asked a question about what current game they could play that mirrors the most of the vision of PE and feargus said BG2. Mainly due to the combat system. He said he didn't pick planescape because the combat in that was not the best or something like that
It's definetly one of the most original takes on the traditional fantasy adventure. Geralt is only half the story and arguably has the easier part.
superdeluxe
Member
In regards to BG2 romances
I always felt a little wrong going after jaheria and aerie. Jaheria because she was getting over the death of Khalid and aerie because she was this completely young/innocent type. Vicona always felt like the right match
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Feargus in the radio interview said:
Man, it's not?! Removing my pledge.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Ditto.
The romances in BG 2 were worth it for the Jaheira/Aerie catfights alone.