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Pineapple Pizza Mafia |OT| The War On Fruit Pizza
- Thread starter Sophia
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I'm fairly sure nobody else has claimed vanilla at this point.
My worry now is that this game is actually structured like a normal game, and the role madness moniker comes from something else. In that case, the scum could have been able to limit the pool of possible PR considerably now.
I only claim when I'm in danger of getting lynched, if there is sufficient proof that I caught a scum, or if I'm an x-shot and used all my shots. On D1 I wasn't getting lynched. I actually didn't even see their claims then lol. I am cautiously leaning town on BB though.
That sounds like a bastard move, though?
I doubt that Sophia would state that a game is role madness without knowing the connotations associated with that - I know that at least I thought that it meant "everyone has a role," not "maybe slightly more roles than usual with weird mechanics." The former is how Arkham was billed, anyway.
That's what I thought too, but now we have had almost 25% of the playerbase claim a vanilla town, and then include an innocent child that is basically a confirmed vanilla, and a miller that is vanilla outside of countering cops to some degree.
Give me a TL;DR why you think Launch is scum. I have had some worries about him.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
That's fair and all, but I'll have you know, your roleclaim has fucked me up because I think I believe you.
Palmer_v1 read.
Mine is not about any specific pizza chain.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
i dont see how an innocent child and a miller count against this game being role-madness
They don't, but they are definitely some of the more "vanilla-like" power roles in that they don't have any other special circumstances other than just existing. The only thing both of these roles can do is vote, just like vanilla.
I was leaning scum on Moonkid initially, because he seemed to want to stay out of the fray on D1. Seemed very cautious. Launch replaced him. Maybe I am biased because I know what I did at the end of D1, but I feel like Launch placing too much emphasis on my actions and did not question others who were part of the fray as much. Also, he says he holds me in high regard (which is super nice I admit) but it's a convenient excuse to fall back on.
I definitely town-read him on D1. I'm still town-reading him today. Posts like his #1505 feel very town to me, and were helpful.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Would you guys agree with my assessments here?
except of course me being confirmed town
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Before you go, give me a name on the bolded.
Some nice advice you got there Swamped, lets use it on your own posts.
Arguing both sides: check
Wishy washy, no strong positions: check
A safe vote on a inactive player, and of course saying he "could be" scum, no strong positions: check again
Trying to start a bandwagon on someone who "could be" scum. Could be reads are people you vote for sure, but not people you try to start bandwagons on.
Nice to see more arguing of both sides.
Why pose a question like that to town while withholding information that could not only get the wrong people lynched but also set up a chain lynch of townies?
Why one of them lying? With your claim, there might be two?
Sounds about right
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Then maybe some portion of that 25% of the playerbase is lying.
If we accept that a Miller already makes this game at least a little bastard, then maybe a one-off that works like a lynch Janitor of sorts isn't too out of the question.
Monkey, and Saw/Vere
blackbuzzard (0)
dr. worm 640 (1477)
skyodin 708 (791)
lifeline 1318 (1673)
swamped (6)
launchpadmcq 650 (1670)
lifeline 657 (748)
isaacnukem 851 (855)
isaacnukem 855
lifeline 911 (1134)
darryl 1143
lifeline 1144 (1318)
blargonaut 1583
acohrs 1600
dr. worm 1637
palmer_v1 1667
dr. worm (0)
palmer_v1 659 (778)
burbeting (0)
darryl 697 (1143)
wherearemahdragonz (0)
lifeline 748 (911)
blargonaut (0)
palmer_v1 778 (1015)
30yearsofhurt 1198 (1525)
blargonaut 1204 (1218)
palmer_v1 (1)
blargonaut 849 (1019)
launchpadmcq 1670
isaacnukem (0)
hey_monkey 858 (910)
palmer_v1 1494 (1531)
oreomunsta (0)
blackbuzzard 872 (1071)
iaaacnukem (1)
wherearemahdragonz 885
acohrs (4)
hey_monkey 910
skyodin 1056
natiko 1225
blargonaut 1226 (1245)
swamped 1264 (1651)
stanleypalmtree 1598
natiko (0)
acohrs 960 (1600)
blargonaut 1245 (1583)
stanleypalmtree (1)
palmer_v1 1018 (1494)
burbeting 1130
lifeline 1134 (1144)
dr.worm (1)
blackbuzzard 1071
30yearsofhate (0)
palmer_v1 1531 (1558)
30yearsofhurt (0)
palmer_v1 1558 (1667)
launchpadmcq (2)
swamped 1668
lifeline 1673
swamped (6)
isaacnukem 855
darryl 1143
blargonaut 1583
acohrs 1600
dr. worm 1637
palmer_v1 1667
dr. worm (0)
burbeting (0)
wherearemahdragonz (0)
blargonaut (0)
palmer_v1 (1)
launchpadmcq 1670
isaacnukem (0)
oreomunsta (0)
iaaacnukem (1)
wherearemahdragonz 885
acohrs (4)
hey_monkey 910
skyodin 1056
natiko 1225
stanleypalmtree 1598
natiko (0)
stanleypalmtree (1)
burbeting 1130
dr.worm (1)
blackbuzzard 1071
30yearsofhate (0)
30yearsofhurt (0)
launchpadmcq (2)
swamped 1668
lifeline 1673
I don't agree about some of the activity levels, for sure, but can't double check right now. Quick examples are blarg in high, monkey in medium, several of your bottom set of medium as well.
Nope. The logic is sound in an actual role madness game. I'll come back to you after Swamped.
would lower me to low activity
Guys, I would love to bandwagon the moron, but now is not the time. If we suddenly turn on him, and he's just misguided town, we'll have wasted most of this day.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
er, neither of these acted as suspiciously as you did...
UNVOTE
I need some time to think this through.
1. No. I listed the possibilities but I said Palmer wasn't scum
2. How is it not strong, I voted for him no?
3. Yes, I don't know for 100% who scum is. But obviously I want votes on my scum reads.
4. Well, I townread Palmer and Dragonz, and was unsure about BB not because of his claim, but because of other behaviour. He's a null read to me now.
5. Why 2?
Wait, what?
What? After that whole post throwing shade at Swamped?
I'm probably not changing my vote off you, but no hard feelings i hope. I just have to know if this is really role madness or not, and you, BB, and myself are the only ones that can help settle it with deaths. By virtue of claiming last, yours seems the shadiest to me.
So swamped and Acohrs are both on the lead for lynch today, but I don't know... I'm not 100% scum reading either of them.
Swamped has been lot more passive in this game than in the past, but that's just my gut. Her vote at the end of D1 strikes as suspicious, but that only really works if palmer v wamd v BB vote had a scum in it. And with WAMD flipped town, and me town readin palmer and BB both for now... I don't know. Her vanilla claim feels genuine too.
For acohrs, he has been lot more passive in this game than what he was in pop where we both were scum. And that Lifeline read post... would scum really have not known LL was confirmed town? That makes me put him into "he is just dumb town", same casket BB is in right now. But I do know Acohrs is not complete moron, so could he have been able to fabricate that LL post just to get towny points?
Swamped has been lot more passive in this game than in the past, but that's just my gut. Her vote at the end of D1 strikes as suspicious, but that only really works if palmer v wamd v BB vote had a scum in it. And with WAMD flipped town, and me town readin palmer and BB both for now... I don't know. Her vanilla claim feels genuine too.
For acohrs, he has been lot more passive in this game than what he was in pop where we both were scum. And that Lifeline read post... would scum really have not known LL was confirmed town? That makes me put him into "he is just dumb town", same casket BB is in right now. But I do know Acohrs is not complete moron, so could he have been able to fabricate that LL post just to get towny points?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I find that to be an impressive leap in logic. Can you expand on that?
I think 30 is the only person besides Swamped I will vote for today. Just FYI. I didn't scum read swamped either, but sometimes you kill town for the info it provides.
Give me a tl;dr on your opinions of 30 and why.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
ok, check it, I know we're all panicking right now
so I'll be willing to argue with you guys about lynching me tomorrow, but right now, it's worth focusing on the vanillas.
please tell me it's not just me
Sorry, literally walking out the door to go to work right now. Short version is he voted for me, has been inactive, and then my long theory towards top of last page, and sinec then, nothing but churlish behavior. Swamped mentioned my post up there.
So why'd you take your vote off the one you've been pursuing all day?
hey_monkey
Banned
I have a lot to catch up on but will answer this quick: uh, that he won't be replaced? He was less venemous and strange but still hasn't offered anything at all. May be just trying to figure out GAFia but still surely someone would do some scum hunting at this point. And let's not forget Oreo hid behind AW SHUCKS I'm new! in anime.
So I lean a little scum. Scum team advisement is my only question mark.
Because he realized he'll be taking the blame if Swamped flips town.
He's gotta be more careful now
Blargonaut
Banned
There was something little that bothered me in regards to Launch earlier in the game.
Launch posted this little theory about the neutral pizza giver:
Slightly after this, hey_monkey posted this:
So, what happens if monkey is right, and lifeline was targeted by scum due to some of his reads in this post being right? It was interesting to me that Launch started to push the narrative on the neutral right around the time hey_monkey posted this, almost as if to deflect from it. However, Launch did post that post before monkey posted hers (I even asked in the thread from launch what post he originally posted his neutral-narrative to be extra sure). But launch did post this post after hey_monkey's post:
It's nothing substansial, but I've felt bit more wary about Launch after that. Not all details match though. Most importantly, Lifeline read Swamped as the godfather, and Launch has been strictly against Swamped until her vanilla claim. There is also scum-read dragonz, who already flipped town.
Still, food for thought.
Launch posted this little theory about the neutral pizza giver:
Slightly after this, hey_monkey posted this:
So, what happens if monkey is right, and lifeline was targeted by scum due to some of his reads in this post being right? It was interesting to me that Launch started to push the narrative on the neutral right around the time hey_monkey posted this, almost as if to deflect from it. However, Launch did post that post before monkey posted hers (I even asked in the thread from launch what post he originally posted his neutral-narrative to be extra sure). But launch did post this post after hey_monkey's post:
It's nothing substansial, but I've felt bit more wary about Launch after that. Not all details match though. Most importantly, Lifeline read Swamped as the godfather, and Launch has been strictly against Swamped until her vanilla claim. There is also scum-read dragonz, who already flipped town.
Still, food for thought.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Because if Swamped is in the pool of vanilla claims, and her claim is less suspicious to me than others in the same group. I'm more inclined to believe some who was coerced to claim, than someone who claimed without prodding. Her actions are still very questionable, though, so I am at odds.
I think I need to hear from others as to why Swamped is a good lynch. It suddenly seems like a lot of people have just followed my lead without giving much reasoning, and that's very alarming.
Good point, how do people feel about Palmer being the next vanilla test lynch after Swamped?
Blargonaut
Banned
UNVOTE: Swamped
VOTE: acohrs
VOTE: acohrs