You could apply this reasoning to literally any lynch at all. This is role madness, not role mild irritation, after all.
If Blarg is lynchproof scum, the game is unwinnable if town loses whatever killing roles it has, you realize.
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Pineapple Pizza Mafia |OT| The War On Fruit Pizza
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You could apply this reasoning to literally any lynch at all. This is role madness, not role mild irritation, after all.
If Blarg is lynchproof scum, the game is unwinnable if town loses whatever killing roles it has, you realize.
I'm giving Monkey the benefit of the doubt of being town cop due to the miller being a real role in this game, so I tried to think of potential situations where a scum cop and a town miller were compatible. I couldn't really think of any other.
TTK, do you still think it's like that monkey and skyodin both being scum would really collaborate their claims like that, when 1 scum was just lynched? And you keep saying that what if Blarg has super good town PR, when it would make more sense for scum monkey try to get credibility by lynching neutral Blarg.
timetokill
Banned
Maybe you guys are right and I'm just over thinking the role madness thing, it still doesn't sit right with me though. But I hope you're right.
Day 3 votes
timetokill (0)
launchpadmcq 2173 (2183)
blargonaut (8)
hey_monkey 2175
burbeting 2178
palmer_v1 2180
launchpadmcq 2183 (2291)
skyodin 2276
acohrs 2407
nomadic sparks 2408
isaacnukem 2434
dr. worm 2504
palmer_v1 (0)
isaacnukem 2177 (2434)
nomadic sparks (0)
timetokill 2361 (2438)
skyodin (0)
nomadic sparks 2368 (2385)
hey_monkey (1)
timetokill 2438
An up to date vote count can be found here
Majority is 9
Day 3 ends in:
timetokill (0)
blargonaut (8)
hey_monkey 2175
burbeting 2178
palmer_v1 2180
skyodin 2276
acohrs 2407
nomadic sparks 2408
isaacnukem 2434
dr. worm 2504
palmer_v1 (0)
nomadic sparks (0)
skyodin (0)
hey_monkey (1)
timetokill 2438
An up to date vote count can be found here
Majority is 9
Day 3 ends in:
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
WOAH HOLD THE FUCKING TRAIN
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Are you guys seriously not going to use your discussion time?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Let anyone who has something to post do so before the day is over. The turbo won't really give us any advantage.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Yeah i really dont get this.
Can we atleast wait till Blarg shows up again before you maniacs lynch him.
timetokill
Banned
Yeah the whole eagerness to do it now now now is also disconcerting me
If you're town you should want to let us get as much discussion in as possible
But it seems like there are many here who aren't interested in discussion
Hmmmmmm
If you're town you should want to let us get as much discussion in as possible
But it seems like there are many here who aren't interested in discussion
Hmmmmmm
BlackBuzzard
Banned
The only way i see us needing to lynch him if he is just gonna spam the thread with shit posts.
We're already at lynch, slow down and let everyone come in. One post a day phase isn't going to help us going forward
hey_monkey
Banned
Only possible reason TO turbo is maybe prevent vig action but that is rote speculation and should not decide us. We have more shady biz from d2 to look at while we wait and see if anyone else comes forward. one claim shouldn't stop all investigation
Pls don't turbo Blarg yet.
VOTE: hey_monkey
Monkey lynch:
If monkey is cop, we lynch Blarg and we have a confirmed town in Sky.
If monkey is scum, we lynch Blarg for being Neutral and Sky for probably being scum too.
Blarg lynch:
If Blarg is neutral, it'll keep a potential monkey + Sky scum team alive for a while.
If Blarg is scum, we get two confirmed towns in monkey and Sky.
I think Monkey is the better lynch.
Also I haven't read any of the thread yet so I might have missed any role reveals if there's been any.
VOTE: hey_monkey
Monkey lynch:
If monkey is cop, we lynch Blarg and we have a confirmed town in Sky.
If monkey is scum, we lynch Blarg for being Neutral and Sky for probably being scum too.
Blarg lynch:
If Blarg is neutral, it'll keep a potential monkey + Sky scum team alive for a while.
If Blarg is scum, we get two confirmed towns in monkey and Sky.
I think Monkey is the better lynch.
Also I haven't read any of the thread yet so I might have missed any role reveals if there's been any.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Goddamnit LL!
Since LaunchpadMcQ doesn't seem have any ideas, I guess I'll ask:
How'd you come around to Palmer_v1 as town, anyway? I'm mildly interested in your process with regards to that.
Re-reading the whole Sky Odin and Hey Monkey reveal conversation and it sounds sooo fake.
What are the chances Monkey checks SkyOdin, SkyOdin knows he was the one who was checked, SkyOdin (who hasn't really posted that much) somehow already figured out Monkey is cop, and then Sky realizes that monkey is referring to him and Monkey realizes that Sky is okay with being cleared and Sky's role ends up both protecting him from being lynched in the morning and explains why he's not NKd at night (a perfect scum cover).
All of this is so convenient.
Scum is offering us Blarg's neutral pineapple head on a plate to keep two of their own protected. And we're all just standing there with forks, ready to dig in.
What are the chances Monkey checks SkyOdin, SkyOdin knows he was the one who was checked, SkyOdin (who hasn't really posted that much) somehow already figured out Monkey is cop, and then Sky realizes that monkey is referring to him and Monkey realizes that Sky is okay with being cleared and Sky's role ends up both protecting him from being lynched in the morning and explains why he's not NKd at night (a perfect scum cover).
All of this is so convenient.
Scum is offering us Blarg's neutral pineapple head on a plate to keep two of their own protected. And we're all just standing there with forks, ready to dig in.
I agree completely. Me and Burb have mulled over this a bit, if you didn't see those posts. We know we had a Miller reveal yesterday, therefore there has to be a cop. And it's likely that he is a town cop. So unless we have a town cop playing dumb, that scenario just doesn't add up.
Although I had my nerves equally unsettled. Can you think up a scenario that has the Miller role in it that this makes sense?
Why would a cop who hasn't used his checks yet claim now? Especially in a game that has had 4 or 5 people claiming vanilla or vanilla like roles. Is two cop/cop like role unbelievable?
I can see a cop waiting to use his checks before they paint a massive target on their backs.
Ya'll are here shipping a corgi and a bear and then talking about how a pineapple pizza is unnatural.
They should claim anyway, because not getting rused by hey_monkey and SkyOdin is more important than whatever shots they may have remaining.
Read through, we talked about this already.
And here we are wondering why a cop didn't counter claim. Launch's jedi mindtricks at work.
I'm just gonna add to this, even if Blarg is scum, I wouldn't rule out Sky and Monkey being some sort of neutral team. Like Joker and Harley from Arkham.
Care to elaborate?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I've been coming around to getting past his antagonism towards others. I have to admit I have been in a similar position before where I think that town has its head up its own ass (though in that case, it was just me). I'm more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt over BB, who has done nothing and in that whole kerfuffle.
Just I'm being cryptic? Does not knowing what's coming scare you?
Does this mean post flip or what? Arguably you'd want to live no?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
"you guys should take a closer look at Launchpad if I day, but my role is designed so you'll never kill me"
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Sorry, I didn't see it
It goes like this: TTK is coming from an angle of mafia killing off a PR Blarg. I'm not sure what the probability of this is, but I don't think that should factor into it. Confirming Blarg is scum is very simple, and if he is, then we've got one scum; if he's not, we can turn around and lynch hey_monkey. Either way, we catch scum, right?
I don't think TTK is up to anything nefarious, I just think he's approaching it from a different perspective, which I think is reasonable. I don't have a full read on TTK at the moment, though.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Also, I'd like to point out something about the vig. If they are town, and they fucked up on WAMD, they're probably pretty hesitant to use their ability again (assuming it doesn't need to be proc'd somehow). That said, if you have this ability, I think whoever you are, you should use it on Blarg. This feels open-and-closed and we can spend the rest of the day talking about something else.
Yes, that's what I was going off of for that. I don't have a read on the actual player, though, he just came in. His predecessor was too quiet, as well.
Yes, that's what I was going off of for that. I don't have a read on the actual player, though, he just came in. His predecessor was too quiet, as well.
Wonderful
Piggybacking on this, what's everyone's thoughts on a Burb/Palmer team? Individually too, if you don't have an opinion on their collusion.