Elrond Hubbard
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I should have qualified my statement a bit. What I meant was it's douchey if they're asleep.
Waking someone up on an airplane is generally a huge dick move, IMO. It's hard enough to get to sleep as it is.
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Plane diverted as passengers fight over seat reclining
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I should have qualified my statement a bit. What I meant was it's douchey if they're asleep.
Waking someone up on an airplane is generally a huge dick move, IMO. It's hard enough to get to sleep as it is.
I like the cut of your jib. I'm going to start doing this.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Categorically untrue. Writing a letter to the airline won't save my knees on the next flight. Having a friendly chat with the person in front of me will. Even this thread has already enlightened a few people who were completely unaware how painful and unavoidable the situation was for others.
I'm amazed at the number of people who assume that I was being threatening when I said that if I don't want someone to recline, they won't. Unless I jam my knees into the person next to me, they have to go forward, which prevents reclining from happening. If I'm "infringing on the space that they paid for" I hope they can sympathize that their 3 hours of minor discomfort is saving me from 3 hours of excruciating pain.
Cheesecakebobby
Banned
These people need to just sit forward and relax.
According to them, they can't make it through life unless they are reclined at an extra 3 inches.
PK Strawstorm
Member
Sounds like you are framing your own life as vastly more hectic and important than that of the person behind you, disregarding their comfort as "tray space." So yeah, you are kind of being what that other guy said.
FunkyPajamas
Member
I'm in the "no recliner but don't mind if you recline" camp and this whole mess is just too much.
I appreciate if you take the time to turn your head and ask the person behind you if they mind, it means you're a true gent/lady. I don't mind if you don't do it either since sometimes you're just tired and want to relax. I should be able to ask you politely if it were to bother me (again, it doesn't).
What is it with people getting worked up over this stuff?
Also, can't they just subdue a screaming woman? Why would they have to turn the plane around? What's she going to do, scratch the window panes off the plane?
I would be mildly peeved if my flight was diverted because of this.
I appreciate if you take the time to turn your head and ask the person behind you if they mind, it means you're a true gent/lady. I don't mind if you don't do it either since sometimes you're just tired and want to relax. I should be able to ask you politely if it were to bother me (again, it doesn't).
What is it with people getting worked up over this stuff?
Also, can't they just subdue a screaming woman? Why would they have to turn the plane around? What's she going to do, scratch the window panes off the plane?
I would be mildly peeved if my flight was diverted because of this.
Elrond Hubbard
Neo Member
Difference is that I have a seat that reclines, and a seat that reclines is part of what you pay for when you fly.
You don't pay for a seat in which the seat in front of you does not recline.
It's pretty clear who has the usage rights in this scenario. I'm not going to forego my usage rights to avoid causing a mild annoyance that everyone who flies has to put up with at some point or another.
The Hermit
Member
The person reclining was wrong? I always recline, unless the person behind me is too big, but I just ease up a bit.
I was wrong mu whole life...
I was wrong mu whole life...
alright then, Donald Trump.
terrisus
Member
They do.
not bad
last time I flew British Airways I had a bed and tv
ur pic is nicer tho
arts&crafts
Member
I was going to make a thread of seat reclining last week but forgot. I am not sure why the feature even exists. The person reclining gets a smaller increase in comfort than the person sitting behind gets a decrease in comfort. So really, if you recline on a plane or bus, you are more of an asshole than the guy using these things.
Elrond Hubbard
Neo Member
If you're a tall dude, request an exit row seat.
No way. Those few degrees of tilt are the difference between being able to nap (poorly) and not being able to get to sleep at all.
No way. Those few degrees of tilt are the difference between being able to nap (poorly) and not being able to get to sleep at all.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
Feel free to lay your head on the tray table to sleep, just be aware that the seats on a plane recline and the person in front of you may not be aware that you are sleeping in that position. People know the seats recline, right?
The guy waited until he was asleep. People don't generally fall asleep that fast. That means the guy was supposedly uncomfortable for quite a while before he said anything. Kinda weird really. It was also a trans=pacific flight, according to the poster. Those are not short flights. I thought people did not have issues with recliners in long flights?
You guys need to take issue with the airlines in how they design their cabin, not the people using the seats as they are intended to be used. What I mean is, feel free to ask someone not to recline, but no need to get pissy about someone reclining if you never said anything to them.
Are you guys 12? Sounds like something a child would do.
arts&crafts
Member
My flight from Dominican Republic to Toronto was delayed last week by 8 hours because 2 ladies got drunk and started smoking in the washroom so they got 2 FIGHTER JETS to escort the plane back to Toronto....
I kinda want to party with these women tbh.
arts&crafts
Member
I think they are in jail or had to pay an insane fine. I will find the article.
http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/1138734/military-jets-escort-passanger-plane-back-to-pearson/
This is me. One time someone in front of me turned around and asked what was in the way. I told him I was 6'4" and if there was a magically spot I could move my knees to, I would.
😍😍😍😍
terrisus
Member
The fanciest seat I've ever gotten is an exit-row seat with a bit of extra legroom >.>
I can only dream about stuff like that :þ
echoshifting
Banned
God, I had no idea so many people had this much rage toward reclining. I am disabled and it is very hard for me to sit fully upright for a three hour flight. One more thing to be anxious about when I fly. I guess I just figured it was something everybody has to put up with. I get economy premium for the legroom, too, so most of the time hopefully it isn't a big issue for the people behind me. I do try not to recline all the way when I'm in the last premium aisle.
Man, it's like one of the few breaks you can catch as a short dude. You have the option of putting a pillow on your seat and slouching instead of reclining your seat. I've seen people smaller than me slam their backs onto those seats trying to recline as far as they can, though.
Elrond Hubbard
Neo Member
If you guys ever want to experience a complete lack of leg room, try taking a bus in southeast Asia. Those buses are designed for very small people, and even at 5'10", I was basically crammed in there.
Kitsunebaby
Member
As someone with serious back problems, those few centimeters are the only thing keeping me sane during a flight. If I need to recline to get some goddamned lumbar support I'm gonna do it.
Thankfully Southwest flights tend to have better leg room in my experience, which means I don't have to bother anybody when I recline.
echoshifting
Banned
Yeah I'm right there with ya. It must be nice to think those few centimeters are meaningless...
#yolo
FunkyPajamas
Member
oh my. were scissors involved by any chance?
terrisus
Member
I don't have the money available to book anything like that, even if I skipped out on paying other stuff >.>
Where do short people get this foolish idea that if the person in front of you reclines, and then you also recline, that suddenly you've gained your space back and your knees are no longer being crushed? It doesn't work that way. My ass isn't moving backwards when reclining; my knees are still in the exact same place. Airlines need to take recline out of all economy seats if they insist on putting the seats so close together. It most certainly needs to happen on domestic flights.
Some well deserved bans in this thread.
You shouldn't have an infant on a plane in the first place. Instead of a person reclining and ruining one person's flight, you're ruining everyone's flight.
I also have the option to repeatedly smack the back of your seat and ensure that if you're going to purposely make me uncomfortable then I'm sure as hell going to return the favor.
Some well deserved bans in this thread.
You shouldn't have an infant on a plane in the first place. Instead of a person reclining and ruining one person's flight, you're ruining everyone's flight.
I also have the option to repeatedly smack the back of your seat and ensure that if you're going to purposely make me uncomfortable then I'm sure as hell going to return the favor.
The fuck is wrong with you?
Shamrock7r
Member
I usually fly Southwest and I feel like the reclining is positioned in a way where it doesn't really effect leg space.
And lol at the people claiming to kick the the back of the seat of people reclining like bunch of children not getting their way. I would imagine that if you just calmly explain your situation to the person in front of you, if you are a taller person, that more often than not the person will try to be accommodating.
And lol at the people claiming to kick the the back of the seat of people reclining like bunch of children not getting their way. I would imagine that if you just calmly explain your situation to the person in front of you, if you are a taller person, that more often than not the person will try to be accommodating.
Particle Physicist
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This ain't a movie theater. People with kids/infants are allowed to travel.
LaserBuddha
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Zoe
Member
As long as you're around average height (or less), all you have to do is recline your seat as well and, voila, no space lost.
As a short person, reclining makes a huge difference in how my feet rest and my back support.
Yup. Alot of entitled people in this thread.
Sure they are, right in the comfort of their own car.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
lol. Yeah. I live in the midwest, when I have a small vacation and I want to visit my grandmother in florida who cannot travel, I will fly, because driving is not an option. I will also fly when we want to go on vacation, pretty much anywhere because, it's vacation, and the plane is a means of travel. Sorry bud. A movie theater, I understand, but a plane... too bad.
terrisus
Member
Yeah, it's always a nice car ride from New England to Old England.
I was about to go buy one of those Knee Defenders, but it looks like they only work when your tray is down? Is that correct? Pretty useless to me if so, having the tray down frequently presses against my knees as well.
Nobody is going to stop you, that doesn't mean that you're not the extremely rude one imposing your problems on a whole bunch of other people over a choice you made and decided to live with.
They've got these great things called boats, complete with your own private cabin to shut your baby inside.
Nobody is going to stop you, that doesn't mean that you're not the extremely rude one imposing your problems on a whole bunch of other people over a choice you made and decided to live with.
They've got these great things called boats, complete with your own private cabin to shut your baby inside.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
Sounds like you hate kids overall. haha. wow. It must suck being so bitter. Sorry you feel that way.
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Wait... so, is this all sarcasm? I can't tell. :/
WayneMorse
Banned
This story was good up until the author tried to play the "see, both sides are the same!!" card.
Bitter? More like annoyed and encroached upon. I can refer you to a number of other GAF threads with a multitude of people who feel the same way if you'd like.
LaserBuddha
Member
I'd say more 'arrogant', in that your comfort and right to not be annoyed is so crucial and uncompromisable that the entire breeding population of mankind ought to do the decent thing and not travel, to accomodate your inability to suck it up and deal with the realities of being a member of society and using mass transit, and refusal be in the same room as a baby for several hours at any point in your lifetime.
Get some self-awareness.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
ITT: Fuck all those people keeping the human race alive. Clearly they should have their rights infringed for putting their burden onto the rest of us, who just want to die old and alone.
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