PlayStation 4 hits 35.9 million sold through to end users
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So it's PS4 sales bingo time?
Was waiting for this to be posted, think we nearly have a bingo already
Bitch Pudding
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Acquiescence
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Indeed. Less is more.
Off-topic, but I'm playing through Until Dawn for the first time right now and Emily is so hilariously bitchy. I love her.
Canis lupus
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PS4 is gonna reach ~100M on the eve of the PS5 launch (~60M in the next 4-5 years is feasible), and maybe another 10-20M after the PS5 launch. It's not gonna do the 50M of the PS2(sub $99 consoles) post PS3 launch and also not tank like the PS3 did (specialized chips preventing steep price cuts).
fluffydelusions
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Damn, just think. If I had picked one up for Xmas, it could have been 36M. I let you all down.
DriftingSpirit
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PS2 yes, Wii no.
Important to note that PS2 was available only in Japan for a while so that's why it's above it for now.
Agreed. Even my fiance, who is the nicest girl I've ever met, turned to me and said "I don't normally advocate hitting women, but I'll make an exception for Emily".
... And I love her for that so much. She has the best sections of the game too.
Until Dawn definitely made me happy with my PS4 over the holidays.
So this...
... was a trap they prepared for Microsoft last gen.
Haha. But hey, back in the day the fact that a PS3 was a blu-ray was damn cool and a boost over the competition. Now? No one cares. People expect all consoles to be able to stream movies & music, browse the internet and do all that smart-tv stuff. You can't sell a console using that to anyone anymore - it's just expected.
But 'This console plays games at a higher fidelity than that one, and get this - the better one is 100 dollars cheaper' - that's an unbeatable argument, right there.
wapplew
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#teamEmily
-Pyromaniac-
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And to think this year will be their best software lineup.
Insane. And deserved.
Insane. And deserved.
He is not being salty. Even Sony said they didnt know why it was selling as well as it was.
You were right:
http://www.vg247.com/2014/08/19/even-sony-doesnt-know-why-ps4-is-selling-so-well/
http://venturebeat.com/2014/08/20/even-sony-doesnt-know-why-ps4-is-selling-so-well/
http://kotaku.com/sony-doesnt-understand-just-who-the-heck-is-buying-all-1623868615
Edit: tbh, Im not sure either why it is absolutely destroying the competition. I understand why it is "winning", but why is it DESTROYING the competition? and for SO long? Wtf?
Probably nearing 40M I guess. They should be around 37-38M shipped right now, so closing in on 40 doesn't seem far-fetched.
You said "over 2m for sure" which mean you believe there is no way for sell under 2 million, and since 2 million, at least for me, seem already an hard prediction, yeah... btw:
I believe PS4 has sold 1.5 million during Black Friday, and 4.2 million in December... so, i will say 1.5 million in December NPD.
I can see 1.6m ( which was my first prediction) or 1.7m, 2 million can happen but is seriusly hard, definitively is not a given.
Magic Mushroom
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Yeah, they have a game that's making pretty much every GotY list with Bloodborne and a true sleeper hit with Until Dawn. Could be worse.
On PS4 or XBO?
PS4: PSN is pretty bad
XBO: Most entertainment stuff is useless for me, snapping is pretty hit or miss, the OS is slowww
DeepEnigma
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Or like the PS2.
(Forgets some gamers are not old enough on here to know of the generations before the PS360.)
slavesnyder
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It's like doing a fistbump and saying "fistbump".
SkylineRKR
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Price but especially support if Vita, Move etc are anything to go by.
Captain Tuttle
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Really impressive!
Also, for be even more precise:
PS4 sales / shipments Yearly:
2013 - 4,200,000 / 4,500,000
2014 - 14,300,000 / 15,400,000
2015 - 17,400,000 / ?
We will know by end of January 2015 shipments. So far they are 9.40 million, i believe in around 8 million this quarter ( yes, i said 8 million
), so, gonna say 17.4 million shipped.
PS4 sales / shipments Yearly:
2013 - 4,200,000 / 4,500,000
2014 - 14,300,000 / 15,400,000
2015 - 17,400,000 / ?
We will know by end of January 2015 shipments. So far they are 9.40 million, i believe in around 8 million this quarter ( yes, i said 8 million
), so, gonna say 17.4 million shipped.Omotesando
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PS3 did 14 million in its 7th year, you expect the PS4 (cheaper, more succesfull, dominant console, Sony more willing to lower price etc.) to do only 9 million in its 7th year? Even if PS5 is coming out that year, which is plausible. PS4 is not going to slow that much down, especially at a price range that even poor families can afford.
14,5m in 2018 would mean it is going back to PS3 level sales. in 3 years, not going to happen.
Triggerhappytel
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Insane. Weren't they expecting 35 million by the end of the fiscal year? I wonder if they'll be hitting, what, 38 million by the end of March.
Bitch Pudding
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What offensive language! tststs
Yeah, hopefully they have more research now into why people are buying it.
And if I had to guess why it's doing so much better, it is just the most appealing to more people.
In Europe it was always going to do very well and Xbox would do okay but not great, and when it was cheaper in the US and UK I imagine most people didn;t see a reason to spend the extra money.
Also some people still think Xbox One doesn't play used games, or has to be connected online and haven't heard that's not like that.
HAHAH you got me!
mmm, conservative imho.
I'm betting it will end its LTD around 115 millions, especially if VR will give it a boost in terms of "long tail" into the next generation
Crimson_Gold
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Considering the wide applications of VR, you can see VR media being developed for the PS4 as well. There are already a nice number of games being announced for it and a studio dedicated to it as well. I think VR will get a push beyond vita, a handheld in a shrinking market, and move, a product released after the buzz had died down.
TheJollyCorner
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hahahaha wow
SkylineRKR
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PS4 was being advertised and communicated the best. Xbox was TV, TV and more expensive. PS4 was like 'we are simply offering a gaming console'. And they struck gold. I also think they did an excellent job with their marketing being very big on nostalgia, showing the whole Playstation history et al. As a Playstation gamer since 1996, that really worked out for me after the somewhat alien Ps3 era. I felt they had another Ps1 or 2 on hand which wasn't overly expensive and would deliver.
Xbox had to repair a lot of stuff first while PS4 simply went on selling. The first period pretty much decided which is the de facto console.
Doesn't the ps4 refute this claim?
I put my money on them being together.
😳
Night Hunter
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But we don't know the profit margin for a theoretical PS4 Slim. Not until someone does a BOM teardown. Maybe it's considerably higher and they'd rather take the extra sales.
Of course, Splatoon will sell over 100 million LT, and that's a conservate prediction! probabily more close to 150 million.
Auto_aim1
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Now I kinda miss the PS3 and its exotic architecture. I don't think Sony will ever do the same mistakes with PS5 that they did with the PS3, they suffered way too much for that to happen.
I think it's just better for the entire industry if we have simple easy to develop consoles available at a reasonable price point. That's a good business model. There's no need to complicate it.
Outta nowhere..
as you can see above, I'm expecting PS4 to end higher than his projections, but let's not pretend he has no clue, I think that, even if I don't agree with his forecast, there is a theory behind his projections.
For example: PS4 is surely going better than PS3 in the West, but will probably lose 4 millions to PS3 in japan (PS3 ltd is around 11 millions I think, and with the actual sales it will probably be able to reach 6 millions ltd).
We also saw recently that the % of the other Asian markets (where the pS4 is growing compared to the PS3) are still veeeeeeeery lower than Japan)
more importantly, because western markets are way bigger than Japanese one for home consoles, I think that his theory (that could be wrong, of course) is that the main difference between PS3 and PS4 is the trajectory of the sales, and the shortened life cycle. Exaclty because PS4 was better positioned on the market compared to the PS3 (in general terms - price, lineup etc...; in terms of competition - lower costs than the Xone, way better product than the Wii U; and in terms of previous gen offer - PS3 sales were more stagnant than PS2 ones probably because the longer gen that PS360 offered somehow caused a gen fatigue at least for the more enthusiast gamers) we could see a faster penetration but also a shorter "tail", or in other words, a different sinusoid
note, me too I'm expecting higher sales (not around 99/100 millions as he said, but around 115 millions), but I'm open to different opinions, especially if coming from a user that usually sustain his projection with many data analsys.
Omnistalgic
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Only question mark left for Ps4 is VR. They are going to have some hits in software this year more than likely. Uc4 Sfv, FF15, and another big Holiday with very strong 3rd party and Indy support. It's just what is VR going to do?
Sony low projected numbers?
Kinect like boost?
Wii like craze?
Complete flop?
I hear impressions, and I'm only certain it won't be a complete flop, but dunnon where it will fall with so many question marks. I honestly think the writing is on the wall for X1, they will for the duration of the gen, have weak ROTW sales, timid sales throughout the year and strong holidays in U.S and UK. Nintendo I think will have another successful handheld debut, but VR may be the deciding factor whether Ps4 hits 100+ million or stays in the 70-80 by the time the gen comes to a close
Sony low projected numbers?
Kinect like boost?
Wii like craze?
Complete flop?
I hear impressions, and I'm only certain it won't be a complete flop, but dunnon where it will fall with so many question marks. I honestly think the writing is on the wall for X1, they will for the duration of the gen, have weak ROTW sales, timid sales throughout the year and strong holidays in U.S and UK. Nintendo I think will have another successful handheld debut, but VR may be the deciding factor whether Ps4 hits 100+ million or stays in the 70-80 by the time the gen comes to a close
Just found on wikipedia that PS2 sales after 2 years were 30 mil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_sales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_sales
Yeah there's a lot of reasons why PS4 is the better choice for most people.
Sony still cares about having other stuff on their console, but they didn't push it because there was no real reason too.