Steam hits 40m concurrent users.

How would we know this? I haven't seen where any company has provided its criteria for it considers an "active user" to be.
Even if Sony did count all that...I mean so does Xbox if we are being fair? Didn't Satya say something like they had 500 million MAU or something?
 
How would we know this? I haven't seen where any company has provided its criteria for it considers an "active user" to be.
Valve has clarified this more than once in the past, actually.

Their criteria for "active account" was "Every account with at least a commercial purchase [i.e. not just free to play games] that has logged on the service at least once in the last 30 days".
 
Steam CCU ain't shit. It hasn't been called the Netflix of gaming.

Wake me up when it's even called the Amazon Prime, Tubi, Disney + of gaming. I'll even accept the Paramount Plus of gaming.

I listen to corporate marketing exclusively and think these are rookie numbers. I only see words like "Netflix of Gaming".

PC people and their not paying for additional online services like the peasants they are..... wanting a larger library and all that...
 
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Steam CCU ain't shit. It hasn't been called the Netflix of gaming.

Wake me up when it's even called the Amazon Prime, Tubi, Disney + of gaming. I'll even accept the Paramount Plus of gaming.

I listen to corporate marketing exclusively and think these are rookie numbers. I only see words like "Netflix of Gaming".

PC people and their not paying for additional online services like the peasants they are..... wanting a larger library and all that...
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Even if Sony did count all that...I mean so does Xbox if we are being fair? Didn't Satya say something like they had 500 million MAU or something?

Yeah, he said it was across all platforms and devices. Going along with his everything is an Xbox campaign, I guess.

Valve has clarified this more than once in the past, actually.

Their criteria for "active account" was "Every account with at least a commercial purchase [i.e. not just free to play games] that has logged on the service at least once in the last 30 days".

Found Sony's definition in their financials.

"Monthly Active Users is an estimated total number of unique accounts that played games or used services on the PlayStation™Network during the last month of the quarter and is based on company research, and may be updated in the future."

 
Steam CCU ain't shit. It hasn't been called the Netflix of gaming.

Wake me up when it's even called the Amazon Prime, Tubi, Disney + of gaming. I'll even accept the Paramount Plus of gaming.

I listen to corporate marketing exclusively and think these are rookie numbers. I only see words like "Netflix of Gaming".

PC people and their not paying for additional online services like the peasants they are..... wanting a larger library and all that...

Who called Steam the "netflix of gaming"? I've seen Xbox being called that because of Game Pass, but Steam? Not sure how it makes sense.
 
Simple explanation is that every Steam install on Windows defaults to "Run Steam when my computer starts" and killing Steam via the usual X button in the upper right only hides Steam in the background.
Steam's app is quasi-malware that's difficult to stop from starting automatically and equally difficult to stop once it's already been started.

It's just one option in steam menu or you can do it in task manager.

Most Steam users wouldn't be able to tell you how to disable Steam from launching at startup.

Maybe gen z/alpha, they are worse with tech than millennials and gen x.
 
Simple explanation is that every Steam install on Windows defaults to "Run Steam when my computer starts" and killing Steam via the usual X button in the upper right only hides Steam in the background.
Steam's app is quasi-malware that's difficult to stop from starting automatically and equally difficult to stop once it's already been started.

It isn't difficult to stop at all. "Quasi-malware"…..come on
 
PC Xbox app? Malware.
Steam? Malware
Discord? Worse than malware
NVIDIA suite of apps? Also malware
Corsair iCUE? Malware
NZXT Cam? You guessed it. Malware
G.Skill lighting control? 100% malware
 
Simple explanation is that every Steam install on Windows defaults to "Run Steam when my computer starts" and killing Steam via the usual X button in the upper right only hides Steam in the background.
Steam's app is quasi-malware that's difficult to stop from starting automatically and equally difficult to stop once it's already been started.
If you own a PC and think Steam is difficult to stop from starting automatically then you either have no arms, are fucking retarded, or a mix of both.
 
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No surprise I have been using xbplay app on steam to remote play my series x through the deck. So technically playing on steam. Looks like every screen is an xbox after all.
 
Simple explanation is that every Steam install on Windows defaults to "Run Steam when my computer starts" and killing Steam via the usual X button in the upper right only hides Steam in the background.
Steam's app is quasi-malware that's difficult to stop from starting automatically and equally difficult to stop once it's already been started.
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So PC gaming is at a new low with all the unoptimized modern games and unreasonable GPU prices.

And this happens.

So i'm going to assume everyone is playing Balatro on laptops using the iGPU?
 
Simple explanation is that every Steam install on Windows defaults to "Run Steam when my computer starts" and killing Steam via the usual X button in the upper right only hides Steam in the background.
Steam's app is quasi-malware that's difficult to stop from starting automatically and equally difficult to stop once it's already been started.
If you need to install STEAM and know how to do it, you are most likely also know how to stop the app on startup.

Then again, my mother wanted to play a poker game and i found one on STEAM for her so i installed STEAM on her laptop without disabling it from the startup, for convenience. I don't know if she still plays it but apparently she is a part of those "gamers" in the stats, despite never caring about videogames in her whole life.
 
If you need to install STEAM and know how to do it, you are most likely also know how to stop the app on startup.
Even as user who knows how to install Windows software - it's a PITA to stop steam's processes as you can't just use the convenient X button on the top right edge of the window.
To actually shut it down you have to use the steam menu or Task Manager, either way being obnoxiously difficult.
Steam does things with controllers that can make its running in the background problematic for non-Steam games.
 
Even as user who knows how to install Windows software - it's a PITA to stop steam's processes as you can't just use the convenient X button on the top right edge of the window.
To actually shut it down you have to use the steam menu or Task Manager, either way being obnoxiously difficult.
Steam does things with controllers that can make its running in the background problematic for non-Steam games.

It is obnoxiously difficult to select exit steam from a drop down menu?

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Even as user who knows how to install Windows software - it's a PITA to stop steam's processes as you can't just use the convenient X button on the top right edge of the window.
To actually shut it down you have to use the steam menu or Task Manager, either way being obnoxiously difficult.
Steam does things with controllers that can make its running in the background problematic for non-Steam games.

Nonsense. Right click on the Steam icon in the task bar and....


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If you own a PC and think Steam is difficult to stop from starting automatically then you either have no arms, are fucking retarded, or a mix of both.
Having steam run automatically on startup by default is shady.
Having steam keep running in the background after you close Steam is shady.
For an outfit that's known for being pro consumer those two UX choices don't sit right.
This only applies to Steam on Windows as debian's steam package doesn't auto start by default.
 
It is obnoxiously difficult to select exit steam from a drop down menu?

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Nonsense. Right click on the Steam icon in the task bar and....


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Having steam run automatically on startup by default is shady.
Having steam keep running in the background after you close Steam is shady.
For an outfit that's known for being pro consumer those two UX choices don't sit right.
This only applies to Steam on Windows as debian's steam package doesn't auto start by default.

Shit ton of programs don't stop when you just click "X". Right clock "exit" always works, you don't need to kill them in task manager.

I shut it down using "file"/steam menu most of the time, almost every program works like that:

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It isn't difficult to stop at all. "Quasi-malware"…..come on
Users have problems with closing Steam and turning off auto-start across OSes:


"Quasi-malware": Auto starts by default, is difficult to turn off and when "closed" prevents games outside of Steam from being playable.
 
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Users have problems with closing Steam and turning off auto-start across OSes:


"Quasi-malware": Auto starts by default, is difficult to turn off and when "closed" prevents games outside of Steam from being playable.


Literally a toggle in Setting.
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Users have problems with closing Steam and turning off auto-start across OSes:


"Quasi-malware": Auto starts by default, is difficult to turn off and its background processes prevents games outside of Steam from being playable.


Not sure what you think you've proven with this. The reddit guy received plenty of responses on what he was doing wrong and the solutions were not difficult. I'm just going to ignore the other two from eight and nine years ago. Operating systems have come a long way since then. Either way, Steam is not malware of any kind and manufacturing your own definition of "quasi-malware" isn't proof of anything.
 
Users have problems with closing Steam and turning off auto-start across OSes:


"Quasi-malware": Auto starts by default, is difficult to turn off and when "closed" prevents games outside of Steam from being playable.

How is it difficult to turn off? Are you quasi-retarded?

It's literally under settings "run steam when my computer starts" . Click that off and it never starts with your PC again, so fucking difficult. And Steam 100% does not prevent other games from running when you close it.

If you are so dumb that this is a difficult task for you, you shouldn't playing games on PC anyway.
 
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We're going to be in for so much shit when Steam inevitably goes public, or finds some other way to become crap. Apparently Gabe has a plan for when he's on his way out, but really there's only so much you can do until capitalism eventually finds its way.

This could turn out "interesting" in, say 20 or maybe 30 years.
Gabe's plan is to relocate Valve to New Zealand.
 
Is there any reason why certain people are posting obviously wrong things to downplay the achievement?
 
Users have problems with closing Steam and turning off auto-start across OSes:


"Quasi-malware": Auto starts by default, is difficult to turn off and when "closed" prevents games outside of Steam from being playable.

Congratulations you found other retards on the internet. You'd be surprised just how many people struggle with day to day stuff just like you.

Heres someone who can't turn off his PS5:


See you are not alone in the world.

BTW pretty much all launchers will start with windows unless you tell them otherwise.
 
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A bit of a flawed comparison since Steam has been around for over 20 years while consoles effectively reset every 7 years.

They don't totally reset specially these days where console accounts carry your games into the next hardware. By the same token, the hardware running these Steam accounts isn't 20 years old either, the overwhelming majority is around mid PS4 cycle to PS5 age if you look at the latest hardware survey.
 
And to think, people were calling for Steam to crash and burn when it was still a new concept. This is an absolutely crazy milestone for Valve, and I expect more and more companies like Sony and MS to support Steam in bigger ways moving forward. It wouldn't make any financial sense to not.
 
Users have problems with closing Steam and turning off auto-start across OSes:


"Quasi-malware": Auto starts by default, is difficult to turn off and when "closed" prevents games outside of Steam from being playable.

That's enough internet for you today.
 
So PC gaming is at a new low with all the unoptimized modern games and unreasonable GPU prices.

And this happens.

So i'm going to assume everyone is playing Balatro on laptops using the iGPU?
Close I am playing Crystar. Don't bother looking it up it is some 5 year old weebshit game.
 
Online fee to play or something like gamepass? Online fee would kill them most likely...

Yeah something similar or maybe a steam+ of some sorts $10/month and can play all games in early access. Ms couldn't do it because who the hell uses the windows store and they have no leverage.
 
Pretty much can bank on something like that day if valve ever goes public or daddy gabe sells.

I feel like we heard this for the past 5 years or so too. But there's a much bigger chance that Playstation day 1 release their PS games on PC.
 
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