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[sircaw]

AeneaGames + Bo_Hazem you two deserve each other.

Abusers, the both of you.

 

[JonnyMP3]

I honestly don't think Sony or Microsoft have anything in their respective boxes that can do D.L.S.S. like reconstruction. Although, at least on the Sony end of things, considering how important checkerboard rendering was for PS4 Pro, I'm surprised they haven't talked about it for PS5. I mean, they must have improved checkerboard rendering for PS5, right? Is checkerboard rendering how Insomniac is reaching 60 frames on Spiderman? Maybe we'll find out.

Considering Checkerboarding was developed to use crappy GCN2 cores with Jaguar cores and now we have new RDNA2 cores to go Zen2 cores in the PS5... I'm optimistic that they'll come up with something just as clever.

 

[Crazychipmunx]

Any guesses on what Rand, Jez and Imran are hinting to? You think it's R* or something smaller?

Do you have a link or time stamp for when Rand and Jez were talking about this?

 

[Bryank75]

Do you have a link or time stamp for when Rand and Jez were talking about this?

I'll try to find, gimme a few minutes...

 

[Moridianae]

HeisenbergFX4 , any idea around which of these events the preorders may unlock? It can't possibly be September now.

 

[sircaw]

Sometimes the ban notice's are just awesome.

P Ph0enixes

Aug 1, 2020

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So you signed up to make five posts, lay dormant and report a post telling us to 'fuck off'. You, my little girl, is why humans evolved to have middle fingers. And we salute your goodbye with one!

lol, got to love the mods humour on this site.

 

[Self High Five]

I was trying to find the next gen thread, and then I read this

We've been keeping an eye on this thread the past few days. There really doesn't seem to be much merit in it existing any more. Hardly anything is on topic any more, people are posting any random tweets about game sales/general snippets of anythign design related, and despite many requests you still can't speak to each in a civil manner. Instead, preferring to just click the report button. We made this clear last time, sort out your own problems. If you are not going to self moderate by using the ignore feature or press down until a post you don't like disappears from the screen, then you are responsible for your own misery. And before anyone announces any 'conspiracy theories', we've had crying xbox fans and crying playstation fans reporting posts. And just to be clear, before the dramatisation is added, the number of xbox fans was slightly higher (but not significantly).

Geez how hard is it to use the ignore function? You won't even see their quotes.

It's best to just have a separate dedicated PS5/XSX threads anyway. Less fighting and more hype.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

HeisenbergFX4 , any idea around which of these events the preorders may unlock? It can't possibly be September now.

No idea on that honestly.

Do you have a link or time stamp for when Rand and Jez were talking about this?

I'll try to find, gimme a few minutes...

I got it here I think

 

[Bryank75]

Assumes FF16 is exclusive, some first party returning franchise....

 

[sircaw]

i wonder what it's going to be

Come on people, big franchise that could come back.

Metal gear games, silent hill, help me out. i was not here for previous generations.

Still a pure, virgin like console gamer. untouched, unspoilt.

 

[existensmaximum]

Ya know what's funny? That this game looks a lot better than Halo does and is made by 1 person instead of a team of 500!

Actually, this was the only game that really impressed me graphically during that event. Or.. Any of their events really. Very, very impressive for one person, shit.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

So now I'm in this thread and without the fear of being brigaded I can be happy and excited about the PS5 and the custom tech?

That the thought of no loading is amazing because everything runs so fast from the SSD that from the moment you press start on a game in the home screen, it could possibly load you straight into the game, no booting or loading screens, just straight up into gameplay.
It's just hype to see games and developers use clever custom made hardware with specialised tools to offload all the design limitations from all CPU, GPU and RAM.

Now that decompression has its own chip as well as sound. How will developers use that spare power?
Now that the RAM doesn't have to store as much possibly unused assets or even the OS because the SSD is fast enough to load up stuff directly that isn't as essential to the immediate rendering, especially with the Geometry Engine and coprocessors dealing with maps and mesh and the SSD having the speed to provide the higher quality versions of assets up to 22GBs if coders know how to compress right.

And the GPU is now able to do more stuff with both RAM, because there's more of it to use with the lack of having to hold onto future assets, because it doesn't need to wait for the next batch of data from a slow HDD but also being directly able to access certain assets and textures directly from the SSD to render without going into RAM.

There's now just so much spare processing power and memory to use throughout, it's glorious!
I don't mean to be a tech head but when I, as a mere peon, can see that Sony are saying to develops "Here is a machine we've designed that makes all the tricks and short cuts you've had to create in game-making, like load screens and level designed corridors for asset switching in RAM are gone. These are no longer game design constraints. Go nuts!"

Because of that, I can see why developers are getting excited about the PS5's capabilities... I am as a gamer.

Just here, take a look at how insanely sharp the draw distance here, it's movie-like! This proves that PS Studios already use engines utilizing polygon budget per frame before Epic Games UE5 Nanite.

This even proves my point that they copied Sony, not the other way around:

Unreal Engine 5 Partially Rewritten Specifically for the PlayStation 5’s Super-Fast SSD

Will Unreal Engine 5 be able to do things on the PlayStation 5 it can't do elsewhere? It sounds like the answer is "yes"!

wccftech.com

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Could you make an exploded XSX and veteran flying out of it in that fashion? Or even a PC.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Assumes FF16 is exclusive, some first party returning franchise....

Interesting they brought it up because it has been talked about for a couple of weeks now we even discussed it in one of these threads that got buried.

PS taking off for a few hours if I miss something sorry will try to get caught up later, not dodging anyone.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Just here, take a look at how insanely sharp the draw distance here, it's movie-like! This prove that PS Studios already use engines utilizing polygon budget per frame before Epic Games UE5 Nanite.

This even proves my point that they copied Sony, not the other way around:

Unreal Engine 5 Partially Rewritten Specifically for the PlayStation 5’s Super-Fast SSD

Will Unreal Engine 5 be able to do things on the PlayStation 5 it can't do elsewhere? It sounds like the answer is "yes"!

wccftech.com

So clear. This is the geometry engine at work definitely. No evidence of VRS lowering the image quality

 

[JonnyMP3]

Just here, take a look at how insanely sharp the draw distance here, it's movie-like! This prove that PS Studios already use engines utilizing polygon budget per frame before Epic Games UE5 Nanite.

This even proves my point that they copied Sony, not the other way around:

Unreal Engine 5 Partially Rewritten Specifically for the PlayStation 5’s Super-Fast SSD

Will Unreal Engine 5 be able to do things on the PlayStation 5 it can't do elsewhere? It sounds like the answer is "yes"!

wccftech.com

I liked the scene pulling scenes where instead of using travel time between distances to slowly load in the LOD from low to high as we get closer. It just loads in the player's playable radius version of the area which will be the highest fidelity interactive version but it gives the feeling of teleporting because it's so quick.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Silent Hill Reboot and Metal Gear Solid Reboot are strong candidates as PS5 exclusives. I expect Street Fighter VI to be exclusive too. Wouldn’t be surprised if Bully 2 or Max Payne 4 existed and it was timed exclusive.

 

[Crazychipmunx]

So clear. This is the geometry engine at work definitely. No evidence of VRS lowering the image quality

Good application of VRS can improve performance without much visual downgrade e.g. areas in shadow. Using it too aggressively results in halo infinite.

 

[Insane Metal]

Something tells me we are getting multiple Sony events over the next 6 weeks or so.

Please PLEASE be true

 

[Voidout]

Silent Hill Reboot and Metal Gear Solid Reboot are strong candidates as PS5 exclusives. I expect Street Fighter VI to be exclusive too. Wouldn’t be surprised if Bully 2 or Max Payne 4 existed and it was timed exclusive.

They defs have many more full and timed exclusives to announce.

 

[Moridianae]

They defs have many more full and timed exclusives to announce.

Speculatory or you have some info?


Well, one thing is for sure, it can't be GTAVI. I never wrapped my head around that rumor; there's no way either Sony or Microsoft have a "blank enough" check to secure exclusivity for something like that.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

The craziest thing that people haven't realised yet for some reason is that it's not a 5.5GB/per second machine.
It's it is when raw and that'll be handy for indie games. But no AAA is going to go uncompressed.
The machine is a 9GB to 22GB per second machine because the hardware has a custom Kraken decompression chip to go along with the Kraken compression software licence... That Sony are giving away to every developer. So basically everything can be Krakened from day 1 which means a minimum of 9GB/s worth of data can be streamed off the SSD.

All devs will get free use of the Mighty Kraken!

 

[Ramz87]

Silent Hill official account is now following Dusk Golem on Twitter (guy who first reported the Silent Hill reboot)

 

[JonnyMP3]

All devs will get free use of the Mighty Kraken!

But as it's part of the SKU software library it will be optional to use if needed. That's why I said it's probably handy for indie games that can't even saturate 5.5GBs normally to not have to compress anything at all.

 

[Neo Blaster]

An event the start of the month and another at the end of it?

We can have one within two weeks, another in the middle of online Gamescom and the last on the first half of September.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

Nonsense! This is his apartment:

Lol, that severely mimics the old PlayStation Home apartment design!
(just random picture of the apartment that I found)

 

[Neo Blaster]

I honestly don't think Sony or Microsoft have anything in their respective boxes that can do D.L.S.S. like reconstruction. Although, at least on the Sony end of things, considering how important checkerboard rendering was for PS4 Pro, I'm surprised they haven't talked about it for PS5. I mean, they must have improved checkerboard rendering for PS5, right? Is checkerboard rendering how Insomniac is reaching 60 frames on Spiderman? Maybe we'll find out.

Remember Matt Harget said there are PS5 features not yet disclosed, a more advanced checkerboard technique could be one of them.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Silent Hill official account is now following Dusk Golem on Twitter (guy who first reported the Silent Hill reboot)

That's ... weird. But then again, you have Ed Boon following (or at least watching the tweets of) thethiny, the guy who datamined almost everything MK11 wise.

 

[Thirty7ven]

PlayStation Home, lol. What the fuck was that about. Phil Harrison is one weird dude.

 

[JonnyMP3]

Lol, that severely mimics the old PlayStation Home apartment design!
(just random picture of the apartment that I found)

I've gone all nostalgic...

 

[MasterCornholio]

We got some new Craig memes in case your interested.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Especially the earlier models had severe issues with noise. My Pro became really, really loud that I started to dislike playing with a passion. It had always been loud, right from the start but it became worse over time and it's placed with nothing around it and I cleaned it out every few weeks.

Last year I bought a new PC and it was more than capable to play many games at better settings than my Pro so I almost decided to go full PC and join the Veteran crowd! (haha, never that!). Then I decided "f this, I just buy a new one!", so I bought a new Pro late last year for not that much anyway, with a free game that I sold, blabla, this thing is whisper quiet! Even while playing the exact same games on my previous one!

Where with the old one I put the thing to sleep even when I took a short break to get some food in me due to the way too loud noise now I forget many a time the Pro is still on running a game. If you listen for it carefully you can hear it's on but you won't notice it when you don't know.

Currently my PC makes way, way more fan noise when running a demanding game than my new Pro does!

Mine is the second revision, bought it in Nov. 2016. Sometimes somebody turn it on and stays one for hours or even half a day and I don't notice it! I barely clean its surface once a month.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

I find it funny when people say PS5 games doesn't look next gen and they try to loop PS5 games in with the mediocre Xbox games. This looks like a painting. It looks a lot better than anything on the market at the moment with similar artstyles

 

[Neo Blaster]

Something tells me we are getting multiple Sony events over the next 6 weeks or so.

About time!! After 14 excruciating months(counting from the first Wired article) and the launch of PS4 last big exclusives, we deserve to feast in PS5 information.

 

[sircaw]

About time!! After 14 excruciating months(counting from the first Wired article) and the launch of PS4 last big exclusives, we deserve to feast in PS5 information.

To be honest, I am feeling a little burnt out with all the waiting.

 

[TGO]

The stars are beautiful tonight

 

[Voidout]

Speculatory or you have some info?


Well, one thing is for sure, it can't be GTAVI. I never wrapped my head around that rumor; there's no way either Sony or Microsoft have a "blank enough" check to secure exclusivity for something like that.

Nah common sense. Lots of studios cooking stuff up both third and first party.

 

[-Arcadia-]

I find it funny when people say PS5 games doesn't look next gen and they try to loop PS5 games in with the mediocre Xbox games. This looks like a painting. It looks a lot better than anything on the market at the moment with similar artstyles

That is surely not in-game? It can’t be.

If it is, I guess I’m buying a Rachet and Clank game. That is actually insane.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

That is surely not in-game? It can’t be.

If it is, I guess I’m buying a Rachet and Clank game. That is actually insane.

It is in-game.. maybe it is a cinematic but it is an in-game screenshot. That texture quality is movie level.

 

[JonnyMP3]

The stars are beautiful tonight

Is that... Antonio??? You glorious madman!

 

[Neo Blaster]

PlayStation Home, lol. What the fuck was that about. Phil Harrison is one weird dude.

Second Life was a big thing that time, he was just following the trend.

 

[Ramz87]

The stars are beautiful tonight

Ticket please

 

[MasterCornholio]

That is surely not in-game? It can’t be.

If it is, I guess I’m buying a Rachet and Clank game. That is actually insane.

It could be some sort of foto Mode because the IQ is super clean. I zoomed in and I haven't spotted any aliasing at all. With HFW I saw aliasing in some of the screens but in this one I can't see any.

 

[JonnyMP3]

I'd like a Drive Club 2 please actually! Much preferred that over Gran Tourismo. And IMO still the best looking driving game of the gen.

 

[Nickolaidas]

PlayStation Home, lol. What the fuck was that about. Phil Harrison is one weird dude.

I remember actually investing time on that back when I first activated my PS3's online capabilities (was always an offline player up till that point with my consoles).

I remember one day where I had my avatar quietly sitting on the pool, then a chick appeared and started standing in front of me in a way that seemed like I was performing oral sex on her.

I chuckled when I realized my avatar was getting more pussy than I was getting in real life.

 

[Neo Blaster]

To be honest, I am feeling a little burnt out with all the waiting.

Did you say 'burnt out'?

Hmmmm

 

[cragarmi]

So who do we have left who could REALISTICALLY reveal an exclusive launch title in a few weeks time?

 

[TGO]

Is that... Antonio??? You glorious madman!

The stars have aligned

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Lol, that severely mimics the old PlayStation Home apartment design!
(just random picture of the apartment that I found)

*EXPOSED*

I'm an artificially generated person, using data out of facebook to tailor all the stories and photos I've sent before about me.

That's why this game made me cry when I saw the suffering of our race.

 

[NahaNago]

We'd need several state of plays just to cover the gameplay an details of the games coming out for the launch window since I don't see them having an hour and a half state of play to cover everything. I also still want to see a next gen looking fighting game.