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[rodrigolfp]

Its already like that now with game of the generation Elden Ring having better performance on PS5.

Keep dreaming.

 

[The Pleasure]

But for how long ? Because we all know that every PC gamer own the latest parts & automatically will be playing games with the new top of the line GPUs when they release new hardware.

Voodoo 3 16mb is riding high!

 

[rodrigolfp]

f PC version is described as being unplabable in comparison, it's a non issue.

Looks very playable in the video and the demo run very well here. But keep crying with others videos.

 

[Vick]

Looks very playable in the video and the demo run very well here. But keep crying with others videos.

Alex words, not mine:

Here the game is just.. just not at all fun to play.
And loses all of that ambience and atmosphere becuase every single time you go near a door, and the game has tons of doors as that's just its design, and every single time you go near one, the game would stutter. And you could just go back and forth areas and just constantly having stutter.. oh.. it's such a shame.

But if that's how you usually play games and something like that sounds normal, I'm genuinely happy for you.

 

[bender]

Voodoo 3 16mb is riding high!

Dual Voodoo 2s for life, son.

 

[yogaflame]

Team Console and Team PC will always have there battles and forever rivals but for me Ps5 pro will be the common ground to balance PC and console.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Alex words, not mine:



But if that's how you usually play games and something like that sounds normal, I'm genuinely happy for you.

Keep crying with others words instead of trying for yourself in your PC.

It's so usual games having traversal stuttering on PC, Wow. More than 0,00001% of them. A messed library of games.

Funny a player of shooters on dual stick controller happy for how I play my games.



Unplayable.

Better trade for a PS5 version.

 

[Topher]

I need to be banned so we don't have to deal with these bad takes of mine

ftfy

 

[HyperSeg]

I would never even consider playing any of my PC games on PS5. If you have a strong PC and know how to properly use it, consoles are basically useless. My PS5 is not much more than a Demon's Souls machine to me. Tinkering with games and mods are half the fun. But what do I know.

 

[Vick]

ftfy

Pretty extreme lack of foresight, that post.

 

[The Pleasure]

Dual Voodoo 2s for life, son.

You can't play unreal tournament with that shit. Voodoo 3 mah boi.

 

[Klayzer]

My long running theory is that modern PC platform warriors are former console warriors that in their understandable excitement for the benefits of PC gaming decide to extol the virtues in the only way they know how (see: be annoying and insufferable).

That's a great theory. It certainly lines up with their insecurities.

 

[yogaflame]

Question: Is stuttering in PC games, has something to do with improper and unbalance set up for example the GPU, CPU, Memory, and coolant? Or compatibility issues ? Or to much of that or to less of that? What I mean is maybe soup up to much the PC has bad effect on performance just like cars, it is not always about horse power.

 

[The Pleasure]

Question: Is stuttering in PC games, has something to do with improper and unbalance set up for example the GPU, CPU, Memory, and coolant? Or compatibility issues ? Or to much of that or to less of that? What I mean is maybe soup up to much the PC has bad effect on performance just like cars, it is not always about horse power.

Just the tremors you get from that feeling of superiority.

 

[Stooky]

 

[bender]

You can't play unreal tournament with that shit. Voodoo 3 mah boi.

That's sad but I have Tribes 2.

 

[Topher]

Pretty extreme lack of foresight, that post.

Some have called posts like those "marching orders"

I really didn't buy that shit, but HeisenbergFX4 called it back in February so.....

 

[DryvBy]

Question: Is stuttering in PC games, has something to do with improper and unbalance set up for example the GPU, CPU, Memory, and coolant? Or compatibility issues ? Or to much of that or to less of that? What I mean is maybe soup up to much the PC has bad effect on performance just like cars, it is not always about horse power.

That's generally due to drive speeds, memory or whatever your slowest component is.

 

[The Pleasure]

That's sad but I have Tribes 2.

Tribes 2? You Play games like Norwegians you fairy!

 

[XXL]

Some have called posts like those "marching orders"

I really didn't buy that shit, but HeisenbergFX4 called it back in February so.....

It's clear as day.

Let's give them a star....

 

[Heisenberg007]

Sure, just like the ps 5 would make people forget about pc gaming. The house of 4k 60 fps lol

 

[Cakeboxer]

Yeah, and algae could be the food of the future.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Consoles need to die so we don't have to deal with "bad ports" and just have games made for PC.

At this juncture one could argue that most games are PlayStation native and the rest are "ports" for other platforms ?

Witcher 3 Wouldn't Exist Without Consoles

A lot of the news circulating around The Witcher 3 leading up to its release has been centered on downgrade-gate. In addition to the topic of downgrades, a lot of people have pointed fingers at the home consoles as the reason that the game has been downgraded. Turns out, the consoles are the...

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If the consoles are not involved there is no Witcher 3 as it is, we can lay it out that simply. We just cannot afford it, because consoles allow us to go higher in terms of the possible or achievable sales; have a higher budget for the game, and invest it all into developing this huge, gigantic world.

 

[Topher]

Witcher 3 Wouldn't Exist Without Consoles

A lot of the news circulating around The Witcher 3 leading up to its release has been centered on downgrade-gate. In addition to the topic of downgrades, a lot of people have pointed fingers at the home consoles as the reason that the game has been downgraded. Turns out, the consoles are the...

www.cinemablend.com

Reminds me of that joke where a guy is touring an old castle and sees a plane flying overhead. He asks the tour guide "Why did they build the castle so close to the airport?"

 

[Imtjnotu]

This thread is going exactly how I thought it would.

 

[XXL]

Respect to HeisenbergFX4 for letting us know what was going to happen.

So everyone log in to your alternate accounts and bring some better fucking arguments next time.

Like DeepEnigma said....

It's afraid.

So.....

 

[Klayzer]

Respect to HeisenbergFX4 for letting us know what was going to happen.

So everyone log in to your alternate accounts and bring some better fucking arguments next time.

Like DeepEnigma said....

So.....

The fear is so thick, it's like some kind of smelly underground miasma. Truly suffocating.

 

[clarky]

See the so call death of xbox has caused the warriors to open a new front of the war.

We all know what happened to Hitler when he got too cocky......

 

[Gaiff]

Question: Is stuttering in PC games, has something to do with improper and unbalance set up for example the GPU, CPU, Memory, and coolant? Or compatibility issues ? Or to much of that or to less of that? What I mean is maybe soup up to much the PC has bad effect on performance just like cars, it is not always about horse power.

The most frequent source of stutters is shader compilation. The shaders aren’t caught in the caching process on PC and are compiled in real time instead, this results in a slight hitch. This happens only once, but will likely happen again if the GPU drivers are updated or the GPU is changed.

That's generally due to drive speeds, memory or whatever your slowest component is.

The stutters on PC are seldom due to the hardware. Even having a beast of a rig with top-tier components won’t make them go away.

 

[Heisenberg007]

See the so call death of xbox has caused the warriors to open a new front of the war.

While it may seem that way, if we look at it without bias (as much as realistically possible for folks like us who have preferences), this seems like an okay statement / thread to me.

We are enthusiasts and often want the best-of-the-best. For us, it means getting a PC that is usually around $2,000. Otherwise, we are compromising one one thing or another. And, as we know, even the beefiest PCs can have issues more often than not because even big games are not as optimized on PCs as they should be. Relatively speaking, consoles get better ports - especially the PS5.

So if one doesn't have that budget - which, outside of this forum, is the majority of casual gamers - PS5 Pro does offer an excellent option in terms of bangs-for-the-buck.

You get a plug-and-play solution, excellent ports, DualSense experience, very close to the beefiest PC versions - which is a pretty good package, especially we account for diminishing returns, particularly for casual gamers (the majority).

 

[Crayon]

My long running theory is that modern PC platform warriors are former console warriors that in their understandable excitement for the benefits of PC gaming decide to extol the virtues in the only way they know how (see: be annoying and insufferable).

That's exactly how it works. The personality is there. Doesn't matter what they buy. If other people buy a different one, there are things implied.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

See the so call death of xbox has caused the warriors to open a new front of the war.

We all know what happened to Hitler when he got too cocky......

Yeah all the green rats appear to have swam to another sinking ship

 

[Fess]

My long running theory is that modern PC platform warriors are former console warriors

Ignoring the warrior talk I don’t think it’s just a theory that there has been a a major console to PC transition. Has to be facts. GAF has the proof if you’re willing to look back a couple years.

My view of it:

The move from console to PC started last generation when Microsoft started porting Xbox games to PC. At first there were Playstation fans saying that Xbox weren’t needed anymore since they could play the exclusives on PC. Late ports and only select titles at first but it was enough for Playstation+PC to become an interesting combo.

Later on Xbox fans thought Play Anywhere was convenient with the dual license and save sync and hyped that and started doing the move.

And this generation when Xbox games are on Steam day 1 and the console is struggling and Playstation exclusives comes a bit later there are suddenly a ton of former console gamers from two platforms seeing the upsides of PC gaming.

Playstation fans seems more anti-PC today, Xbox fans seems more pro-PC. Go back to around 2015-2016 and Xbox fans were crying over PC ports and PS fans were cheering. And long time PC gamers are probably laughing at the flip flopping and constant fighting.

 

[clarky]

While it may seem that way, if we look at it without bias (as much as realistically possible for folks like us who have preferences), this seems like an okay statement / thread to me.

We are enthusiasts and often want the best-of-the-best. For us, it means getting a PC that is usually around $2,000. Otherwise, we are compromising one one thing or another. And, as we know, even the beefiest PCs can have issues more often than not because even big games are not as optimized on PCs as they should be. Relatively speaking, consoles get better ports - especially the PS5.

So if one doesn't have that budget - which, outside of this forum, is the majority of casual gamers - PS5 Pro does offer an excellent option in terms of bangs-for-the-buck.

You get a plug-and-play solution, excellent ports, DualSense experience, very close to the beefiest PC versions - which is a pretty good package, especially we account for diminishing returns, particularly for casual gamers (the majority).

Peasant.

 

[Ironman_Bad]

I genuinely do believe the ps5 is perfectly fine as is every game I play on my qled looks superb...I never miss the latest console hardware so pre ordering a pro was a default mechanism but im really starting to get excited for it

 

[Hohenheim]

Did you miss the last few years when dozens of games launched with stuttering issues which needed a patch later on to correct it or, worse still, was just never resolved (see Returnal and Dead Space)? Why do you think #stutterstruggle and Alex's dismayed face is even a thing?

I've never had any stutter with either Returnal or Dead Space.
Only game i've had stutters the last few years was Callisto Protocol. That game had terrible performamce day one, even on a 3090.

Oh, yeah Elden Ring also had some issues which was fixed with a few very basic and good mods.
Then it ran buttersmooth in 120fps on my PC. Had quite a few performance issues on the PS5 with that game.

My experiences the last 3-4 years is that games has more performance issues on my consoles than my PC's. But there's been few issues overrall, and games in general run fine.
So I prefer PC for better visuals and higher fps, and more freedom.

 

[kevboard]

Sony said in the box 8k gaming supported or in the website? Will look for the box tomorrow and read it.

it's a golden icon on the front of the box that is bigger than the 4K and the HDR icon next to it lol

 

[Heisenberg007]

Peasant.

On a serious note, though, I play on both PC and PS but have started leaning more toward consoles in recent years, especially as diminishing returns kept growing. The value for money is much better with consoles, particularly because I don't use Windows for my office work.

It just doesn't make sense to keep upgrading my gaming PC only for gaming. The value just isn't there IMO.

 

[Stuart360]

Another Pro thread that will age like fine milk, just like all those 'PS5 vs PC' threads before launch.

 

[Fess]

We are enthusiasts and often want the best-of-the-best. For us, it means getting a PC that is usually around $2,000.

A best-of-the-best PC for $2,000?
Lucky you.
My no longer so best of the best PC from 2022 cost me over $5k if I do direct currency conversion and include taxes and shipping.

Prices has gone down since then but I would still have to pay nearly $4.5k for a 4090 build today. I went one step lower for my couch PC and went with a 4080S and all in all it cost me exactly $3,289 in a direct currency conversion to USD plus taxes and shipping cost.

For reference I had to pay $1,000 for PS5 Pro so that gives you an idea of price differences for us poor souls not living in the US, roughly x1.5 more.

 

[Kamina]

PiSSeR is great

 

[Gubaldo]

Thanks for the laughs.

 

[Mobilemofo]

Alot of us consoles users just wanna play games, ya know. Consoles are super convenient, and you get a reasonably powerful unit for a fixed price, with some excellent tech.

 

[clarky]

On a serious note, though, I play on both PC and PS but have started leaning more toward consoles in recent years, especially as diminishing returns kept growing. The value for money is much better with consoles, particularly because I don't use Windows for my office work.

It just doesn't make sense to keep upgrading my gaming PC only for gaming. The value just isn't there IMO.

Oh yeah everyones situation is different.

I game between PS5/ PC(mainly PC) at home but works away from so games on a laptop half the time. Now that is expensive to stay in the arms race.

I upgrade most things around every 4 years, so at least one bit of kit each year needs an update in some form. Probably get the pro next year tbf, but also fancy a 50 series card arrgghhh

 

[Heisenberg007]

Oh yeah everyones situation is different.

I game between PS5/ PC(mainly PC) at home but works away from so games on a laptop half the time. Now that is expensive to stay in the arms race.

I upgrade most things around every 4 years, so at least one bit of kit each year needs an update in some form. Probably get the pro next year tbf, but also fancy a 50 series card arrgghhh

Sidebar: I'd recommend looking into a Steam Deck if travel is a thing. Combined with Moonlight, it is a powerful yet cost-effective combo!

It'd also offer you PS5 games on the go with Chiaki.

 

[clarky]

Sidebar: I'd recommend looking into a Steam Deck if travel is a thing. Combined with Moonlight, it is a powerful yet cost-effective combo!

It'd also offer you PS5 games on the go with Chiaki.

Thanks for the recommendation but im on a 4090 laptop, i prefer my gaming full size. Its more for hotel rooms and my work place than actual travel, got the switch for that. And also switch 2 next year argghhhhhh lol.

 

[jm89]

The PlayStation 5 Pro could be the best place to play multiplatform games with bad PC ports that suffer from a variety of issues, including bad image quality with certain upscalers and stuttering issues.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

You're actually celebrating that PlayStation 5 Pro might be able to play botched PC ports better? Congrats, I guess. You’re basically admitting consoles are just a safety net for developers who can't optimize their games properly.

Oh and dont get me started about your precious PSSR (which, let’s be honest, is just Sony trying to slap a shiny name on what’s already standard on PC).

If you need a console to compensate for lazy developers making bad PC ports, by all means, enjoy your overpriced box.

And please stop asking for a pro mode in EVERY thread. Nothing says "next-gen" like forcing developers to waste time optimizing their games for yet another slightly upgraded console. Instead of focusing on innovation or fixing core gameplay issues, now devs have to split their resources making sure their game works on multiple iterations of the same console. All so the PS5 Pro crowd can feel special for a hot minute.

How do you think PS5 and Xbox owners feel about MS and Sony shift towards PC and Console?? Talk about splitting time gtfo with that clown pcmr shit. You should be thrilled your getting all these Sony and MS games. You got some nerve though I'll give you that to say that console people don't deserve go get a high end experience too. One of the more selfish pcmr posts ive seen in a while

 

[Heisenberg007]

Thanks for the recommendation but im on a 4090 laptop, i prefer my gaming full size. Its more for hotel rooms and my work place than actual travel, got the switch for that. And also switch 2 next year argghhhhhh lol.

4090 laptop is crazy. How do you handle the temp/heat? I've always struggled with that, but TBF, I live in a very hot/humid environment (think avg. 100 F*+ 24x7x365)

 

[YeulEmeralda]

At launch for a few games, maybe. Good think patches and non fucked PC versions exists, in abundance.

Also bad console ports exist. For example: Pathfinder.