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[FrankWza]

I love that this console exists just to see the feelings and emotions that it brings out. People are so angry that it's $700. Don't buy it or wait for a price drop.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

DeS is quite simple when it comes to loading. SM2 will indeed be interesting on PC.

Again, I'm not talking about loading but the streaming of assets.

 

[scydrex]

I was a PC gamer since a Tandy InterTAN running DeskMate. My last build before moving to Japan and eventually getting married was a 2x SLI NVIDIA 280 GTX with a watercooled and overclocked i7 920C0 in 2009, and at that time it felt like PC gaming was in an incredible place. Valve were popping out polished gems regularly. Battlefield and CoD still felt made for PC and looked stunning.

I reluctantly moved to PS4 a few years later to get away from sitting at a desk every evening and share my hobby from a sofa while being able to chat and stay engaged, and it ended up being surprisingly good.

Hearing about the state of PC gaming now, despite apparently being a growing market is sad. The last time I used Steam properly it was Battlefield 3, Portal 2, Left4Dead2, episodic Half-Life stuff at the top of the charts. It felt like a golden age that could never end.

The last time I checked the state of things a little while ago and Steam was mostly nothing but quirky indie/anime games, and big budget console ports everywhere.
On top of that, watching Alex from Digital Foundry detail the #stutterstruggle and seem genuinely emotional and upset about it made me really sad, too.

I grew up in a PC gaming era where games were made for the latest GPUs that almost any hobbyist could afford, and things like the console version of Battlefield 2 were watered down clones more than they were ports. Nowadays it seems like for big budget stuff ported to PC is lucky to get a functioning version without stuttering.

There’s no real point being made. Just a half nostalgic, half ‘get off my lawn’ whinge about a platform that I left at the perfect time but haven’t been able to return to now I do have time for a PC again.

Considering what I used to spend on PC hardware every 3-4 years back when it was my primary hobby, and considering I’ve loved digital libraries since Steam let me enter a Half-Life CD key and download it with a broken disc, a $700 discless PS5 Pro is honestly alright for where I am now.

Here’s to PS5 Pro from a nostalgic PC gamer that remembers the good times, the PC centric big budget shooters, and the top of the line GPUs that only took a third of a piss poor paycheque at most.

This is exactly my situation. Until 2010 i had a a couple of high end gaming pc. After that I stopped playing on pc and started playing on console. Ps3 then ps4, ps5 and now will get a PS5 Pro.

 

[PixelatedBeast]

Keep dreaming.

Elden Ring is amazing, and yeah - maybe game of the generation.
But it runs quite poorly on PS5 compared to a decent PC.
Even ps4 version runs better than ps5 version.

So just spend 2500-3000$ on a GPU, and you'll have better performance than a 350.00$ console?

 

[rodrigolfp]

So just spend 2500-3000$ on a GPU alone, and you'll have better performance than a 350.00$ console?

You don't need a 4090 to have better performance, ignorant. Yet you get what you pay for.

 

[PixelatedBeast]

You don't need a 4090 to have better performance, ignorant. Yet you get what you pay for.

Dont call me out of my name, Pc nerd shill. You dont need a 4090 to have a good gaming experience either.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Dont call me out of my name, Pc nerd shill. You dont need a 4090 to have a good gaming experience either.

If a 4090 provides a good gaming experience, nothing more is good, console nerd shill.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

You don't need a 4090 to have better performance, ignorant. Yet you get what you pay for.

People are paying $1600 for a GPU to have games stutter?

 

[Vick]

People are paying $1600 for a GPU to have games stutter?

He doesn't see stutter.

And if he does, he also says on Console is the same or worse.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

He doesn't see stutter.

And if he does, he also says on Console is the same or worse.

Oh, believe me - I know how the flowchart goes.

 

[rodrigolfp]

People are paying $1600 for a GPU to have games stutter?

For that too. But at least those people can pay less than $70 to play without crap IQ, resolutions, controls, and downgraded graphics and the online is free.

 

[damidu]

lol at pcmr insecurities, its getting sad. if you are so uninterested why do you need to spam every pro thread geez.
go back to the stutter land fool.

 

[digdug2]

If a 4090 provides a good gaming experience, nothing more is good, console nerd shill.

This sentence doesn't even make sense. Nothing more is good? What?

 

[rodrigolfp]

pro thread

Just read the title, retarded. Not hard. Or need a drawing?

This sentence doesn't even make sense. Nothing more is good? What?

Need a drawing?

4090 = good.

Everything else =/= good.

 

[damidu]

Just read the title, retarded. Not hard. Or need a drawing?


Need a drawing?

4090 = good.

Everything else =/= good.

buy your $3k 1000w 5090 and go stutter in the corner nerd. your nervous breakdown is annoying.

 

[rodrigolfp]

buy your $3k 5090 and go stutter in the corner nerd. your nervous breakdown is annoying.

 

[digdug2]

Just read the title, retarded. Not hard. Or need a drawing?


Need a drawing?

4090 = good.

Everything else =/= good.

Maybe with a drawing you'd actually make sense, you condescending dickhead.

 

[brenobnfm]

Elden Ring is amazing, and yeah - maybe game of the generation.
But it runs quite poorly on PS5 compared to a decent PC.
Even ps4 version runs better than ps5 version.

lol Elden Ring is a unfixable stutter shitfest on PC, fundamentally broken port, you brought the worst possible example.

It's already better played on the PS5 with the PS4 version, now the proper PS5 version will have a 60 lock, the definitive version.

 

[Vick]

About that "crap IQ"..

Maybe not the best of timing.

 

[rodrigolfp]

About that "crap IQ"..

Maybe not the best of timing.

We already know you like blurry IQ and thinks it's fantastic.

 

[Vick]

We already know you like blurry IQ and thinks it's fantastic.

 

[Zathalus]

Where are you seeing this? The only thing that increases the price in this thread are things you are purposefully leaving out here. Like faster SSDs, 4K drives, controllers e.t.c.

The most upvoted build in that very thread? It includes a drive but completely misses adding a SSD. Estimated build price over $1000. There are other builds that are priced lower but can be completely dismissed as they recommended stupid shit like a 2060. Did you not actually read through the replies?

Fact is the price gap between an equivalent PC and a PS5 in 2020 was far larger compared to a PC and Pro today.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I am reading the discussion on the other thread, smart ass.

 

[digdug2]

About that "crap IQ"..

Maybe not the best of timing.

Dude, I am getting more and more impressed by the PSSR "secret sauce" with each new look we're getting at what the Pro can do. I cannot wait to see what it can do in person, instead of just highly curated YT videos.

 

[digdug2]

I am reading the discussion on the other thread, smart ass.

That other thread that you mentioned? Stay there, please. It's a better conversation here without you in it.

 

[rodrigolfp]

That other thread that you mentioned? Stay there, please. It's a better conversation here without you in it.

I am not posting there. Keep crying.

 

[digdug2]

I am not posting there. Keep crying.

No one is crying except you. You keep getting shit on because of your negative bullshit responses, yet you keep coming back for more. I feel bad for you.

 

[rodrigolfp]

The most upvoted build in that very thread? It includes a drive but completely misses adding a SSD. Estimated build price over $1000. There are other builds that are priced lower but can be completely dismissed as the recommended stupid shit like a 2060. Did you not actually read through the replies?

Fact is the price gap between an equivalent PC and a PS5 in 2020 was far larger compared to a PC and Pro today.

He doesn't have interest in price itself. Just trying to make the Pro price looks better.

 

[rodrigolfp]

No one is crying except you. You keep getting shit on because of your negative bullshit responses, yet you keep coming back for more. I feel bad for you.

Suspects console warriors crybabies trying to downplay PC advantages = me crying. Ok.

 

[digdug2]

Suspects console warriors crybabies trying to downplay PC advantages = me crying. Ok.

You're in a fucking PS5 Pro topic. What the fuck else did you think you were going to hear?

 

[rodrigolfp]

You're in a fucking PS5 Pro topic. What the fuck else did you think you were going to hear?

Less nonsense.

 

[digdug2]

Less nonsense.

Build us out a $700 USD PC with PS5 Pro's capabilities, then. Can't wait to see what you whip up.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Build us out a $700 USD PC with PS5 Pro's capabilities, then. Can't wait to see what you whip up.

Sell me a $700 USD console that can run WoW, PS3 games, Switch games...

That is what I mean with less nonsense. At least read the thread discussion.

 

[digdug2]

Sell me a $700 USD console that can run WoW, PS3 games, Switch games...

That is what I mean with less nonsense. At least read the thread discussion.

You're not going to find a console that lets you run pirated games, unless you manage to jailbreak it.

I don't want to read any more of your discussion, because I really don't care what you have to say. You might have some good points, but as I said earlier, you come off as a total prick and you're gumming up the thread.

 

[rodrigolfp]

pirated games

Another ignorant. -_-'

Plus, ironically, the XB Series allows people run pirate games without jailbreak. Lol.

 

[PixelatedBeast]

If a 4090 provides a good gaming experience, nothing more is good, console nerd shill.

What? That hardly made sense, lol. If you really believed that, you wouldnt be in a thread about console posting videos of games running at max setting on Pc, 2500.00$ GPU shill.

 

[rodrigolfp]

What? That hardly made sense, lol. If you really believed that, you wouldnt be in a thread about console posting videos of games running at max setting on Pc, 2500.00$ GPU shill.

Read the thread title only, slow ass. Thread is not about console only. Keep crying.

 

[Nigel]

I’m jumping to PS5 Pro, been using my Ps5 for some time and having a more pleasant time. I having a very good PC, however poor ports are making it intolerable. Games no longer stutter more, but the image quality is getting worse with its image scaling and AA work. I’m done.

 

[Klayzer]

You're not going to find a console that lets you run pirated games, unless you manage to jailbreak it.

I don't want to read any more of your discussion, because I really don't care what you have to say. You might have some good points, but as I said earlier, you come off as a total prick and you're gumming up the thread.

Yeah, he's literally here just to shit it up, and rearrange goalposts in this thread. Surprised he hasn’t been thread banned yet.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Yeah, he's literally here just to shit it up, and rearrange goalposts in this thread. Surprised he hasn’t been thread banned yet.

Because moderators are not so ignorant that think emulation = piracy and know that we can emulate on XBS too.

 

[digdug2]

I’m jumping to PS5 Pro, been using my Ps5 for some time and having a more pleasant time. I having a very good PC, however poor ports are making it intolerable. Games no longer stutter more, but the image quality is getting worse with its image scaling and AA work. I’m done.

One of these days, maybe PC ports will be decent again. Having a PS5 Pro and a really good PC ensures that you'll be able to play the best version of pretty much every game.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

 

[PixelatedBeast]

Read the thread title only, slow ass. Thread is not about console only. Keep crying.

Just because the video mentions PC, does not mean its an open invite to start shilling for an expensive GPU company, lol. You're the only one spamming this thread because you're so insecure about the PS5 pro providing a better value for multiplatform games. 700.00$ vs thousands of dollars to play a video game is objectively a much better deal in the state of the global economy.

 

[digdug2]

Just because the video mentions PC, does not mean its an open invite to start shilling for an expensive GPU company, lol. You're the only one spamming this thread because you're so insecure about the PS5 pro providing a better value for multiplatform games. 700.00$ vs thousands of dollars to play a video game is objectively a much better deal in the state of the global economy.

I really think that he feels as though he is intellectually superior to everyone else in the thread, which is absolutely hilarious because he's been dunked on multiple times.

Edit: Check out how many times he has essentially called people stupid and inferior, even though he can barely string together a comprehensible sentence

 

[rodrigolfp]

Just because the video mentions PC, does not mean its an open invite to start shilling for an expensive GPU company, lol. You're the only one spamming this thread because you're so insecure about the PS5 pro providing a better value for multiplatform games. 700.00$ vs thousands of dollars to play a video game is objectively a much better deal in the state of the global economy.

I am very insecure with my "perfect" IQs, nice performance, best possible controls for every single genre, etc, etc sure. Can't wait for the Pro.

inferior

Where did I call people inferior, ignorant crybaby??

 

[The Cockatrice]

Makes more sense why Sony is porting their games..they literally don't see PC as Competition.

Or you know...they love money? Why would there be any competition? Most gamers dont care about platform warring, only a bunch of nobodies on this forum do. Normal people celebrate good games, no matter where they are released, gaf celebrates when a game runs worse on xyz platform or fails. I need to start blocking more people.

 

[rodrigolfp]

no matter where they are released

Not really. Should I celebrate the next Doom been on Iphone only?

 

[brenobnfm]

Yeah, he's literally here just to shit it up, and rearrange goalposts in this thread. Surprised he hasn’t been thread banned yet.

Guy clearly doesn't have money for a PS5 Pro since he spent everything on a budget ass PC held by duct tape and a random ass chinese PSU so it can at least power up and now can't stop pissing off people with his insecurities.

 

[rodrigolfp]

insecurities.

It was all on the anti virus. You know, to be more secure.

 

[digdug2]

Or you know...they love money? Why would there be any competition? Most gamers dont care about platform warring, only a bunch of nobodies on this forum do. Normal people celebrate good games, no matter where they are released, gaf celebrates when a game runs worse on xyz platform or fails. I need to start blocking more people.

You're absolutely correct. If Sony thought there would be money in putting games on Xbox, they would. Look at The Show, for example. And you know what? Who cares if Demon's Souls winds up on PC or Xbox? I don't- because it means that more people get to experience it on the platform(s) that they invested in.

What excites me most about PS5 Pro is that PSSR will help FSR and DSSR continue to get better and vice versa. When lower end spec'd devices can run games nearly as well as higher end machines and produce similar results, everyone wins. PC enthusiasts can still upgrade their machines to their heart's content, but people with less money can still have an excellent experience.