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Playstation Plus Thread 2: How do I hold all these games?
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By owning the vanilla game you get the game+dlc on the Vita for free.
Yeah the games being on PC doesn't help when I want to play them on a handheld.
MightyMonkeyMan
Neo Member
I had this today, if you fill it in they don't ask for any personal details so it seems to be a real survey.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Is that NA line up the same for Europe too?
I can't seem to see anything on the EU Blog.
I can't seem to see anything on the EU Blog.
bug_42
Member
This would make me so HAPPY, as I already own it on PC.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Damn, 5/6 Vita games.
Trash? Really? You guys are fucking hilarious. If Binding of Isaac: Rebirth, Luftrausers, and Steamworld Dig are trash, I honestly wonder what bastion of excellence you would class as a "satisfactory" PS+ month.
Trash? Really? You guys are fucking hilarious. If Binding of Isaac: Rebirth, Luftrausers, and Steamworld Dig are trash, I honestly wonder what bastion of excellence you would class as a "satisfactory" PS+ month.
Michanical
Member
I'm super excited for BoI:R. For those that haven't played the original, the game is notorious for sucking away large amounts of time from people. Anytime the game gets a mention on a news site, youll always get people in the comments talking about the hundreds of hours theyve spent in the game. Its a rogue-lite that plays similar to smash TV but looks like a dungeon in The Legend of Zelda. You enter a room, clear the room, and then move to the next room until you beat the floor boss and progress to the next floor.
The game has five major mechanics:
Randomness, discovery, risk-reward, progression, and difficulty.
Randomness: BOI is a rogue-lite series similar to Spelunky; each time you play, you start fresh in a randomly generated dungeon. Each floor has a set of rooms that are always there, including an item room, boss room, and shop; in these rooms contain the items (from an insanely large pool of potential items) you use to become powerful enough to beat the game. These items include more damage, health, or an actual effect on how your bullets act. Each attempt to beat the game is unique, with over 4 billion possible seeds.
Difficulty: The game is brutally hard, similar to Spelunky. The game is about getting better over time by learning room layouts, enemy attack and movement patterns, and how to play efficiently. Each time, with a mixture of good luck and skill, make it a little farther each time till you finally beat the game.
Progression: The game grows in difficulty as you get better. When the player hits major milestones, the game unlocks harder content that exists side-by-side with the original content. This includes new bosses and new/alternate floors that add variety and difficulty to the game. You also unlock more items, both good and bad. This means the number of possible outcomes grows as you continue to play the game, keeping it relatively fresh.
Risk-Reward: The game presents you with many choices over the course of the run with both positive and negative consequences. Youll often be using forms or resource management to determine your decisions. For example, Im low on health but there is a chest behind these rocks. Do I use one of my precious bombs to get to the chest, hoping for health? The chest could contain anything from a new item to enemies. There are rooms that trade health to enter, but you wont know what is inside till youve walked through the door; do I risk ending my run earlier for a chance at a better item? There is a lot of divergence here in style of play as people put a different emphasis on what is important for winning.
Discovery: This is both the most important and least important part of the game. The game doesnt come with a manual or tutorial; the items you pick up have very vague descriptions of what they do, and some of the item effects are very subtle. Part of the game is figuring out how an item affects your game. Some items are good and some are bad; some come with risks or increase the chance of hurting yourself. It is strongly recommended by the developer to not use a wiki and allow yourself to deduce exactly how an item works. Before the internet broke the original game open and saw the equations on how the items affect the game, there was a lot of myths and misunderstanding on how each item worked an interacted with the game. There is something really special about the mix shrewd economic efficiency youll play the game with mixed with a half-understanding of how the game even works fundamentally. You can spoil the game with a wiki and have a great time with it, but youll end up missing out on something that is quite magical and youll never be able to unring that bell.
For those have played the original but not kept up on the Rebirths development: The game has over 450 items (the original + expansion have 198 items), local co-op, a new engine with no slowdown and visual effects, over 50 bosses, larger rooms, an upgradeable shop, seeded runs, and 500 hours of gameplay. Edmund has mentioned adding in Spelunky-like secrets for people to find and expects it will be some time till everything is discovered.
Either way, this game is particularly good value and is releasing as a PS+ game. I think people ignore how amazing this is as an option; you get the benefit of the early buzz and conversation around a game, but you dont have to spend the premium price to get that. Im so excited to start getting older AAA games, especially since I end up missing most of them, but these freshly released indie games add a huge value to my subscription. Ill definitely be renewing it soon.
The game has five major mechanics:
Randomness, discovery, risk-reward, progression, and difficulty.
Randomness: BOI is a rogue-lite series similar to Spelunky; each time you play, you start fresh in a randomly generated dungeon. Each floor has a set of rooms that are always there, including an item room, boss room, and shop; in these rooms contain the items (from an insanely large pool of potential items) you use to become powerful enough to beat the game. These items include more damage, health, or an actual effect on how your bullets act. Each attempt to beat the game is unique, with over 4 billion possible seeds.
Difficulty: The game is brutally hard, similar to Spelunky. The game is about getting better over time by learning room layouts, enemy attack and movement patterns, and how to play efficiently. Each time, with a mixture of good luck and skill, make it a little farther each time till you finally beat the game.
Progression: The game grows in difficulty as you get better. When the player hits major milestones, the game unlocks harder content that exists side-by-side with the original content. This includes new bosses and new/alternate floors that add variety and difficulty to the game. You also unlock more items, both good and bad. This means the number of possible outcomes grows as you continue to play the game, keeping it relatively fresh.
Risk-Reward: The game presents you with many choices over the course of the run with both positive and negative consequences. Youll often be using forms or resource management to determine your decisions. For example, Im low on health but there is a chest behind these rocks. Do I use one of my precious bombs to get to the chest, hoping for health? The chest could contain anything from a new item to enemies. There are rooms that trade health to enter, but you wont know what is inside till youve walked through the door; do I risk ending my run earlier for a chance at a better item? There is a lot of divergence here in style of play as people put a different emphasis on what is important for winning.
Discovery: This is both the most important and least important part of the game. The game doesnt come with a manual or tutorial; the items you pick up have very vague descriptions of what they do, and some of the item effects are very subtle. Part of the game is figuring out how an item affects your game. Some items are good and some are bad; some come with risks or increase the chance of hurting yourself. It is strongly recommended by the developer to not use a wiki and allow yourself to deduce exactly how an item works. Before the internet broke the original game open and saw the equations on how the items affect the game, there was a lot of myths and misunderstanding on how each item worked an interacted with the game. There is something really special about the mix shrewd economic efficiency youll play the game with mixed with a half-understanding of how the game even works fundamentally. You can spoil the game with a wiki and have a great time with it, but youll end up missing out on something that is quite magical and youll never be able to unring that bell.
For those have played the original but not kept up on the Rebirths development: The game has over 450 items (the original + expansion have 198 items), local co-op, a new engine with no slowdown and visual effects, over 50 bosses, larger rooms, an upgradeable shop, seeded runs, and 500 hours of gameplay. Edmund has mentioned adding in Spelunky-like secrets for people to find and expects it will be some time till everything is discovered.
Either way, this game is particularly good value and is releasing as a PS+ game. I think people ignore how amazing this is as an option; you get the benefit of the early buzz and conversation around a game, but you dont have to spend the premium price to get that. Im so excited to start getting older AAA games, especially since I end up missing most of them, but these freshly released indie games add a huge value to my subscription. Ill definitely be renewing it soon.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Nope.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Binding of Isaac and Luftrausers? FUCK YEAH!
Plus continues to deliver. I would also say fuck yeah to Frozen Synapse Prime but alas it's not cross buy and I don't really like playing PS3 much anymore. Don't know enough about Hungry Horde or Steamworld Dig to judge those yet but we'll see. Escape Plan is the only clear weak game I see there, and I already own it. But yeah another great month.
Plus continues to deliver. I would also say fuck yeah to Frozen Synapse Prime but alas it's not cross buy and I don't really like playing PS3 much anymore. Don't know enough about Hungry Horde or Steamworld Dig to judge those yet but we'll see. Escape Plan is the only clear weak game I see there, and I already own it. But yeah another great month.
Dr_LucienSanchez
Banned
Knack, of course. That'll make everybody happy, and we'll never hear complaints again.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
It boggles my mind that there are people out there that would have been happier getting Knack than games like Velocity 2X, Pix the Cat and Binding of Isaac. I just don't get it.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I'm actually...fairly happy with this lineup, surprisingly. BoI is a strong GOTY contender for me, I've still yet to play SteamWorld but have wanted to for some time now, Frozen Synapse Prime looks interesting at the very least (although I'm awful at strategy so I probably won't play it much), have heard a lot of good things about Luftrausers, and Escape Plan looks mildly interesting but what the hell is up with the huge size (the PS Store says 4GB for the Vita version?!).
So yeah, at the very least I'll enjoy having BoI, Steamworld, and Luftrausers on my Vita.
So yeah, at the very least I'll enjoy having BoI, Steamworld, and Luftrausers on my Vita.
I'm actually...fairly happy with this lineup, surprisingly. BoI is a strong GOTY contender for me, I've still yet to play SteamWorld but have wanted to for some time now, Frozen Synapse Prime looks interesting at the very least (although I'm awful at strategy so I probably won't play it much), have heard a lot of good things about Luftrausers, and Escape Plan looks mildly interesting but what the hell is up with the huge size (the PS Store says 4GB for the Vita version?!).
So yeah, at the very least I'll enjoy having BoI, Steamworld, and Luftrausers on my Vita.
Escape Plan is the most mediocre game ever made. It looks pretty and has a surprisingly nice ending though.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
It was the touchpad crap that really killed the game for me. Stages required such precision later on but you cant really accurately judge where you're pressing. It pissed me off. Game sucked. I cant believe I chose to buy that crap instead of Super Stardust Delta back then.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Sadly it isn't.
tryagainlater
Member
Unless EU is different, it looks like there's no reason resubscribe. Been a while since I had a gap in my membership. I'm not really sure of the appeal of Binding of Isaac but it's cool to see people excited about it. Even if I'm not interested, I haven't seen a PS+ game that has people pumped in a while except for maybe Velocity 2x which was great.
You know what he meant. Not every user has a PC / DS. If you aren't happy with the service don't use it...these threads could use a little housekeeping.
This is lame as all hell.
AsfaeksBR
Member
Nothing, and I mean nothing, is better than Spelunky!
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
Can't wait for you all to get Knack so you can have a crappy retail PS4 game already. Or Injustice, since it's older than dirt but it's a retail game.
anything that can stop the uggggggggghhhhhhhh give me knnnnnaaaacccccckkk weird ass entitlement that happens in these threads every month. All of these games are pretty damn good but uuuuuugggggggggghhhhhh kkkkkkknnnnnnaaaaacccckkkk,
having played ACIV, it fits perfectly within the crappy-retail-game-that-will-stop-the-whining category that people hope sony will eventually attend to.
But really, given that ACIV is being bundle with XB1s this holiday and that Ubisoft have a comarketing deal with MS for AC, i don't see it happening.
anything that can stop the uggggggggghhhhhhhh give me knnnnnaaaacccccckkk weird ass entitlement that happens in these threads every month. All of these games are pretty damn good but uuuuuugggggggggghhhhhh kkkkkkknnnnnnaaaaacccckkkk,
having played ACIV, it fits perfectly within the crappy-retail-game-that-will-stop-the-whining category that people hope sony will eventually attend to.
But really, given that ACIV is being bundle with XB1s this holiday and that Ubisoft have a comarketing deal with MS for AC, i don't see it happening.
ShadowgeistX
Member
Hm, I'm actually surprised at the lack of a ps3 retail offering this month. I don't have any of these games though, so I'm hyped to try them out. BoI especially.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
Already have Steamworld Dig, but the Binding of Isaac? That's awesome. I barely played the steam version, but I watched the GiantBomb streams of this game, and can't wait to really get into it.
I've been slowly not even downloading the PS3 offerings, so whatever on those. I would've liked other vita games though.
I've been slowly not even downloading the PS3 offerings, so whatever on those. I would've liked other vita games though.
FirmBizBws
Becomes baffled, curling up into a ball when confronted with three controller options.
I think I'm done paying for ps+. It was nice for a while, but when the ps4 came out we obviously got shafted. Giving is games that they had heavily discounted weeks before, lack of AAA titles, and basically flat out garbage across the board.
It was cute when we were actually paying money and getting something in return and fell in love with the service, but now that they "got" us, it's time to stop feeding them money every month.
Thanks playstation, way to betray my trust in you.
It was cute when we were actually paying money and getting something in return and fell in love with the service, but now that they "got" us, it's time to stop feeding them money every month.
Thanks playstation, way to betray my trust in you.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Did I mention how much shit PS3s PS store eats nowadays? I literally feel like taking my pants down and shitting all over the machine and then throw the shit-stained machine on the designers of PS Network. Every single fuck who works on that department needs to be fired.
Stuck at this screen everytime I try to log on to PSN. I have to press the power button in order to reset from this point. It's been like this for weeks, not being able to download anything. I've tried every solution out there, nothing works. I'm not the only one with these problems.
FIX. YOUR. FUCKING. SHIT. with the stupid amounts of $ you've got from PS4, you imbeciles.
Stuck at this screen everytime I try to log on to PSN. I have to press the power button in order to reset from this point. It's been like this for weeks, not being able to download anything. I've tried every solution out there, nothing works. I'm not the only one with these problems.
FIX. YOUR. FUCKING. SHIT. with the stupid amounts of $ you've got from PS4, you imbeciles.
Servbot #42
Unconfirmed Member
Did I mention how much shit PS3s PS store eats nowadays? I literally feel like taking my pants down and shitting all over the machine and then throw the shit-stained machine on the designers of PS Network. Every single fuck who works on that department needs to be fired.
Stuck at this screen everytime I try to log on to PSN. I have to press the power button in order to reset from this point. It's been like this for weeks, not being able to download anything. I've tried every solution out there, nothing works. I'm not the only one with these problems.
FIX. YOUR. FUCKING. SHIT. with the stupid amounts of $ you've got from PS4, you imbeciles.
Every time i want to use the PS store from my PS3 it says that it's under maintenance, i can't even get to your screen. It's inexcusable but remember you can always use the web store which is what i've done since months ago, you don't actually need the PS3 store to download anything since i use my transaction list, still fucked up tough.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Now this I'd like. Give away a good AAA game like that. But don't give us shit like Knack just for the sake of it being AAA.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Yay binding of Isaac!
I game on both PC and PS3....
I have frozen synapse but never played it. Cool month, heard good things about luftrausers
CradleOfMan
Neo Member
Did I mention how much shit PS3s PS store eats nowadays? I literally feel like taking my pants down and shitting all over the machine and then throw the shit-stained machine on the designers of PS Network. Every single fuck who works on that department needs to be fired.
Stuck at this screen everytime I try to log on to PSN. I have to press the power button in order to reset from this point. It's been like this for weeks, not being able to download anything. I've tried every solution out there, nothing works. I'm not the only one with these problems.
FIX. YOUR. FUCKING. SHIT. with the stupid amounts of $ you've got from PS4, you imbeciles.
You're not the only one. I get the pleasure of exactly the same screen, only in English.
What's up with Binding of Isaac, is it some kind of roguelike? People seem to have a lot of love for it.
I remember trying it out on steam but I died and had to begin all over and I gave up on it, partly due to the graphics and art style not really being my thing... and no controller support.
Should I give it another chance?
I remember trying it out on steam but I died and had to begin all over and I gave up on it, partly due to the graphics and art style not really being my thing... and no controller support.
Should I give it another chance?
Ingueferroque
Banned
Give it another chance. It's no longer in Flash and has nice pixels now. It's a zelda-inspired rogue-like.
Do you begin fresh every time you die or do you save some progress to make it a bit easier every restart? I love roguelikes where you save some kind of character progress.
anonymous_abc
Member
So are they all crossbuy with the Vita? If so: Awesome!
Serpens007
Member
Did I mention how much shit PS3s PS store eats nowadays? I literally feel like taking my pants down and shitting all over the machine and then throw the shit-stained machine on the designers of PS Network. Every single fuck who works on that department needs to be fired.
Stuck at this screen everytime I try to log on to PSN. I have to press the power button in order to reset from this point. It's been like this for weeks, not being able to download anything. I've tried every solution out there, nothing works. I'm not the only one with these problems.
FIX. YOUR. FUCKING. SHIT. with the stupid amounts of $ you've got from PS4, you imbeciles.
Delete your PS Store app in the Ps3, then download it again by pressin it's icon, that should fix it.
All except Frozen Synapse.
kingofthedead45
Member
Biblethumps all around the thread. I can't flipping wait for boi. :3
I don't really get why they didnt make this crossbuy. Its not like im gonna buy the vita version if i allready have the ps3 version. Even though the vita version would have gotten the most playtime.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
It's so intensely mediocre a game. It's so, so boring. I can't stress it enough.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Yeah...that did not fix it.
It's not like we have a choice with PS4....
Trust me if online wasn't locked behind it PS4 users would mostly abandon the service.
There is something truly perplexing in people putting games as varied as Isaac, Luftrausers or Velocity into the same generic "Indie" category.
Griddlelol
Banned
Buh-bye now.
If you think all these fantastic games that we've gotten for free are garbage, then you won't be missed.
There is no permanent progress like say Rogue Legacy, but, the game does have a progression system of sorts. Completing various things in the game (like killing a specific boss for the first time, or beating the game with a certain character) causes new items to appear in future playthroughs. It might not sound too important, but, items are basically the most important part of BOI.
I don't see many people talk about it much, but one of the most (if not the most) interesting parts of BOI is the way items work. The vast majority of them are passive and they change the way your character functions in some way such as changing various aspects of your default shoot attack or altering your character's movement in some way. The thing is though, you can pick up an infinite amount of the passive items and the majority of them do not overwrite each other, instead the game is designed so that they actually interact with each other. A really simple example is the "Common Cold" item. It makes your default attack shoot shots that have a chance to poison enemies, straight forward. But then you can also pick up an item called "Technology" that replaces your default attack with a laser beam that shoots across the entire screen and pierces through enemies (which the default attack doesn't do). So in this simple example if you have both of those items instead of one disabling the other you now have a beam that shoots across the entire screen that also has a chance to poison. You can layer more items on top of that as well, it's not a simple 1+1 system, items will keep interacting with each other.
When you take into account that the game has hundreds of items (and Rebirth is going to more than double that number) you start getting into some really fucking weird combinations, some of which are actually negative so a part of the game becomes knowing which items you should grab and which you shouldn't. It's what makes people put hundreds of hours into the game, doing a run and seeing how far you can get and what crazy item combinations you will get.
Lastly I guess it's also worth mentioning, BOI is a very quick game for the most part. The dungeon actually has an end and it doesn't take that long to reach it when you get comfortable at the game (less than hour probably?). You are expected to actually win so it's not really about chipping away at progress a little each time. It's more about seeing if you can actually beat the game with the items that you find along the way (since it's always random).
You're paying less than $5 a month. What trust did they betray?