Mibu no ookami
Banned
Doesn't have to be "everyone" but the target demographic that you're looking for who maybe can't afford a PS5 off rip, but can afford monthly payments.
I think the next step for PS+ is introducing family plans and integrating Crunchyroll as a value add on the premium tier.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
highly unlikely
Mibu no ookami
Banned
I'd assume that they will update the Android app eventually, though they might wait to roll out a more feature complete version and inline with an iOS release.
It's in Beta now and my guess is it won't be feature complete for another 3-6 months. A lot of these features are probably workable or near workable in an alpha build, but not ready for prime time in a public beta.
SweetTooth
Banned
Well for a cloud streaming you don't need a console. But it's kinda tricky like you need two accounts with PS Plus Premium, or the one who is playing on console shouldn't using main account with Premium on it, instead it will be assigned to Portal.
SweetTooth
Banned
I see .. you mean he can use the cloud services while the main PS5 is occupied? That make sense ... at first I was confused because I though he meant 2 people playing different games on PS5 which didn't make any sense to me ...
Loxus
Member
How would all that fit on a handheld motherboard?
Killjoy-NL
Member
That's exactly what this does, right?
TVexperto
Member
No, you need a Premium Sub (the highest PS+ tier) and it only streams selected titles from the catalogue, not all your ps+ games.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Yeah, I got that. But technically you don't need a PS5, right?
Makes sense for Sony to limit it to some extent, at least for now.
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Hayriko
Member
It would be amazing if you'd get access to the full sony librabry through streaming
Mibu no ookami
Banned
Not sure what there would be to elaborate on.
This wouldn't require the ownership of a PS5, thus you could use it separately from the person who is playing the PS5 at home on a secondary account. This is a big win since the Portal is kind of useless if you have two kids or something or even if you have a kid who wants to play but you also want to play something else.
Obviously it is still limited to cloud streaming so they have to get that right and they have to enable the ability to play your digital library (which I think already exists on console) but this is a major move in the right direction for them.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
Unless there is a licensing concern, I imagine that is coming post beta or post-this beta. On console you can't stream EVERYTHING you own.
My guess is some of the issue is licensing and some of the issue is simply logistical.
I actually wonder how cloud servers manage storage. Does each blade have its own storage and is the game installed natively on that specific blade? I couldn't imagine it is. So does it have access to seperate storage? How does it handle multiple users playing the same games? I'd love to a peak behind the curtain there.
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SweetTooth
Banned
I got it thanks, I misunderstood it initially as being able to operate 2 games on PS5 which didn't make sense.
Iced Arcade
Member
Bam, Sold!
Thanks lovato
Thanks lovato
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Skifi28
Member
Honestly, local stearming from the PS5 felt a bit better than off the cloud to me. Of course it depends on how close you are to whatever data center Sony serves you the games from, so your mileage may vary.
mayham2199
Member
This is nice. I'm going to get one eventually. I had one but returned it. It didn't work at one of the offices I'm at every other week. We got rid of that office though so now I'm only at one office and the portal always worked here.
SigSwat551
Member
So, just a few hours ago i bit the bullit and upgraded to a premium subscription in order to try the streaming. I am truly impressed by the quality and responsiveness of the experience. I think the image quality of streaming is even better then remote play via the PS5. It really feels like a native handheld experience to me....never expected that to be honest. So maybe i must consider that streaming really is the future. (I played ghost of tsushima and the last of us via streaming)
Markio128
Member
I think you're right about the streaming experience being better than remote play. The picture quality is pristine - I'm playing Like a dragon and I'm actually gobsmacked by how good it looks and plays.
sachos
Member
Wow that good huh, maybe the fact they can stream in 4K and downscale to the small screen on the Portal is doing wonders here hidding any possible artifact.
For me Remote Play always looked perfect on Portal
reinking
Gold Member
I had purchased a portal a while back and returned it. I picked up an excellent condition open box from BB today on the cheap. Maybe I accidentally worked the system and got a discount on something I previously owned? (it has been a while since I returned it so odds are this is a different one 
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Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
Anyone having issues with the cloud save files? I was playing Kena from the cloud. But later tried to use that save on the ps5 and it fails to load. But then I went back to the cloud on the portal and the save works fine.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
How is the latency?
Trunx81
Member
Bump on this thread.
Just realized that you can play now without owning a PS5 (I already have Extra so upgrading to premium won't be an issue).
How's the streaming quality now a few months later? And the game library? Could get one for around 180€ and am really tempted
Oh, and how's battery life?
Just realized that you can play now without owning a PS5 (I already have Extra so upgrading to premium won't be an issue).
How's the streaming quality now a few months later? And the game library? Could get one for around 180€ and am really tempted
Oh, and how's battery life?
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Agent X
Member
While we're on the subject, I'd like to know if someone could actually verify the "without owning a PS5" part.
Is it possible for someone to buy the PlayStation Portal and stream games from PS Plus Premium without needing to use a PS5 at any point in the process? That is, unbox it, sign into your existing PSN account (with PS Plus Premium) on the PS Portal, and begin playing? Or, do you need to own or have access to a PS5 in order to perform the initial setup?
Trunx81
Member
From what I saw on YouTube and for confirmed by chatGPT, yes. You don't need to own a PS5 for cloud streaming.
Steve Holt
Member
I never knew this. If true, that shit is amazing.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Important to remember that the cloud streaming beta on Portal is only a subset of PS+ games at the moment. Works great though.
Tobimacoss
Member
Do Sony allow streaming of Buy and Stream games on the Portal?
Xbox has been rapidly increasing their xCloud Buy and Stream library every two weeks. Closer to 350 games now.
Xbox.com/play
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
No, not yet.
Baemono
Member
Bump on this thread.
Just realized that you can play now without owning a PS5 (I already have Extra so upgrading to premium won't be an issue).
How's the streaming quality now a few months later? And the game library? Could get one for around 180€ and am really tempted
Oh, and how's battery life?
Streaming quality is fantastic, honestly. And I try a lot of streaming services (GeForce Now, Stadia RIP, Switch 1 cloud games, Xcloud, GameFly, old PS Now), feels « local » on the Portal.
The game library grows every month, so it all depends on your taste. You'll find some of Sony's 1st party titles (Last of Us remake, God of War Ragnarok, Miles Morales, Ratchet and Clank Rift Appart, Horizon), and recent 3rd party ones (Yakuza The Man Who Erased his name, Hogwarts Legacy, Jedi Survivor, Forespoken, FF7 Remake Integrade - from what is interesting to me)
Battery life is pretty good, as the device itself doesn't do much
Trunx81
Member
Thanks, just what I wanted to know. Probably biting the bullet next week. They also added Cyberpunk (without the DLC), so it's probably the best way to play it in handheld mode.
Baemono
Member
You can turn off the light of the mic in the settings
This thing takes ages to update … previous owner had it just lying around, it was totally empty and on the first software.
Will test it thoroughly
Trunx81
Member
Thanks, just did it.
In the beginning it asked me for a PS5 and I just skipped it. So I can confirm: Cloud Gaming works even without one. Nice!
The portal is currently trying to connect to my repeater, not to my main router, but I could still play some Cyberpunk on it. Some hiccups here and there. But still a lot smoother than on my PS4. I played remote play all the time, so I'm not a quality freak. For my uses it's totally ok.
Will make a dedicated net just for it. Should work great.
Build quality is amazing. It really feels pro tech.
Trunx81
Member
Update:
Made a dedicated WiFi for the portal and now I'm playing in glorious 1080p without hiccups. I'm honestly blown away by the quality. Played the whole evening Uncharted 4 (loved the first three and never played the 4th before). Controls very responsive, framerate constant and the display is absolutely gorgeous.
I'm sure it's not for everyone, but for my use case (a dad either wife and daughter always occupying the TVs), it's great. And I didn't have to argue with the wife to get the PS5 (150€ vs 399€).
Made a dedicated WiFi for the portal and now I'm playing in glorious 1080p without hiccups. I'm honestly blown away by the quality. Played the whole evening Uncharted 4 (loved the first three and never played the 4th before). Controls very responsive, framerate constant and the display is absolutely gorgeous.
I'm sure it's not for everyone, but for my use case (a dad either wife and daughter always occupying the TVs), it's great. And I didn't have to argue with the wife to get the PS5 (150€ vs 399€).
Trunx81
Member
Just talking to myself here, but maybe this helps anyone considering buying one.
I just wrapped up my first Cyberpunk playthrough — about 60 hours of streaming.
The quality really depended on my Wi-Fi setup. I've got a repeater in the living room and the main router in the bedroom. Sometimes the connection got pretty bad, but switching to airplane mode and reconnecting usually forced it onto the stronger signal nearby. Some sessions ran flawlessly, others had major hiccups (fixed by reconnecting).
I stick to performance mode since ray tracing isn't really noticeable on a smaller screen.
And the best part: the Phantom Liberty DLC works if you buy it through the PlayStation App or Webstore. The next time I booted up the game, Songbird was right there waiting.
My biggest wish — besides being able to play the whole PS+ catalogue and my own games — would be proper resume support. Reloading the game every time I start streaming is fine thanks to the fast load times, but it still feels a little outdated.
I just wrapped up my first Cyberpunk playthrough — about 60 hours of streaming.
The quality really depended on my Wi-Fi setup. I've got a repeater in the living room and the main router in the bedroom. Sometimes the connection got pretty bad, but switching to airplane mode and reconnecting usually forced it onto the stronger signal nearby. Some sessions ran flawlessly, others had major hiccups (fixed by reconnecting).
I stick to performance mode since ray tracing isn't really noticeable on a smaller screen.
And the best part: the Phantom Liberty DLC works if you buy it through the PlayStation App or Webstore. The next time I booted up the game, Songbird was right there waiting.
My biggest wish — besides being able to play the whole PS+ catalogue and my own games — would be proper resume support. Reloading the game every time I start streaming is fine thanks to the fast load times, but it still feels a little outdated.
Trunx81
Member
I considered the Deck but 150€ was a steal bargain. Had PS Extra anyway and it was just a 17€ upgrade for Premium.
vodka-bull
Member
Its handling is way worse though.
Tobimacoss
Member
So did you own a PS4 before? You said you had Extra before buying the Portal.
Sony needs to allow Buy and Stream. xCloud already allows it on any device.
I'm curious, try playing FortNite for free on xbox.com/play on Edge or Chrome browsers on whichever device you may have. (No Gamepass subscription needed for streaming FortNite). Then enable the Stats Overlay in Settings, what Ping and Decode times, do you get?
Are you subscribed to Amazon Prime for any reason?