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Pokémon Community Thread 2: "This is the Real Power of Johto..."

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DaBoss

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ColtraineGF said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=557406

http://pokebeach.com/2013/05/supposed-pokemon-x-and-y-insider-information

The source was from that one leaker on Pokebeach. There might be some false things mixed in there (maybe), but there have been quite a few hits so far.
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So these rumors are most likely to be correct and whoever said this:

Exterminieren said:
No, not all of them. Two of them have been wrong- we have more than two rivals, and it's not just Gogoat that you can ride.
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Has false info or is bullshitting? Do you know who posted the rumors above or where it is from?
 
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ColtraineGF

Member
DaBoss said:
So these rumors are most likely to be correct and whoever said this:



Has false info or is bullshitting? Do you know who posted the rumors above or where it is from?
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Some guy named Mageleif - he was the one who got ninja'd by Game Freak a while back. He's also the originator of the second set of rumors, lol.

Pancham evolves into Pangoro in the early level 30s. In order to evolve Pancham into Pangoro, you need to have one other Dark-type Pokemon in your party. Pangoro’s type is Fighting/Dark.
A Pokemon named Inkay evolves into Malimar. To evolve it, you have to hold your 3DS upside-down when it levels up (the 3DS has an accelerometer and gyroscope, so it can detect that). Malimar’s type is Dark/Psychic.
A Psychic-type Pokemon named Espurr (ESP + purr) evolves into Meowstick (Meow + mystic?). (Sounds like Psychic-type cats. Meowstick’s name sounds too similar to Meowth to me though.)
Like in B/W you have two rivals – one is friendly and the other is competitive. Your rival that is more friendly gives you his/her fully evolved starter Pokemon after you beat the game.
Another professor named Sycamore gives you either Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle.
Even though it shows the player riding on a Gogoat in the new trailer, players can’t ride on their own Pokemon. What was shown is just an alternate way of getting around Lumiose City and it only works with Gogoat.
HMs still exist but there’s a lot less of them.
Players will be able to see their Pokemon’s EVs (probably through the same in-game facility mentioned in the other post).
A new move, Belch, is a Poison-type attack that has a base power of 120. The user must consume a held Berry to perform it.
Draining Kiss is a Fairy-type attack that heals the user for the same amount of damage performed. It has a base power of 60.
If the previously revealed forme of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly similar to Mewtwo’s original design, the second supposed form of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly/vaguely similar to Mew’s design.
In case you missed our correction the other day, the Starters’ final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.
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Now, if whoever he knew was just playing up to Lumiose City, it would be a simple thing to assume that you could only ride Gogoat in that city.

The rival thing is just wrong though...

And I agree that this all may be truth peppered with wild guesses.
 
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DaBoss

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Exterminieren said:
Both of those came from the same source. The source clearly has info, but there's also clearly some embellishment.
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ColtraineGF said:
Some guy named Mageleif - he was the one who got ninja'd by Game Freak a while back. He's also the originator of the second set of rumors, lol.

Now, if whoever he knew was just playing up to Lumiose City, it would be a simple thing to assume that you could only ride Gogoat in that city.

The rival thing is just wrong though...

And I agree that this all may be truth peppered with wild guesses.
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OK, I see. So this second set is what seems to have some falseness to it. Wasn't there something about the WPM guy trying to protect Magileaf guy? Did he say how he protected him? I don't remember any of this even though I know I read all of this stuff, my memory is shitty lol.
 
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ColtraineGF

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DaBoss said:
OK, I see. So this second set is what seems to have some falseness to it. Wasn't there something about the WPM guy trying to protect Magileaf guy? Did he say how he protected him? I don't remember any of this even though I know I read all of this stuff, my memory is shitty lol.
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I think he was trying to run interference by claiming that it was all incorrect or that the source was different, but by then it was too late because Mageleif's contact info was found, and he was effectively silenced before anything else could be revealed. There was a long post explaining all this somewhere... ah, here:

http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-yo-wpm-riding-info?pid=2435042#pid2435042
Alright, here we go.

Basically what happened is that around the time I posted my second story with the English names, people did some Googling and found out that the information in my first post had been posted on a couple of obscure forums (by my source). I did not know that he had been doing this. This basically meant that with a few Google searches, you would be able to find his real name - which meant Nintendo could too.

To protect his identity, I tried to take the heat off him by disassociating him from any involvement in the leaks. I posted here and on Gamefaqs that he was just some person who had seen the source's original posts, which I claimed had long been deleted. That way, if they actually found his posts (as many had already), they would figure that the posts were just from someone who had seen the “original” source's posts.

At the same time, a person named Tai went around on Gamefaqs spreading the source's leaks and/or claiming to be him. I was so annoyed by this since he was bringing more attention to the source’s identity. I attacked Tai and said that he had only seen the source's original posts and was not linked to him in any way. That he was doing all of this for attention. But right after I went on an attack campaign against Tai, the source informed me that Tai was actually his friend and was doing all of this to take the heat off him. This made no freakin sense to me though. If you want to take the heat off someone, you shut your mouth - you don't bring more attention to them! I even ventured to think that the source was just not thinking clearly and not realizing that his friend was trying to get some sort of sick attention out of all this. I even told the source to stop talking to Tai and defriend him. The source did not do it - I figured he just didn't know how to handle the situation (he was very freaked out that people had even found him).

Then people told me that Tai started to post on 4chan, which prompted me to go over there for the first time in my Internet life. Since Tai was bringing more attention to the original source there, I had to attack Tai and tell everyone that he wasn't the source and didn't know anything about X/Y beyond what the source had originally posted (which was true - the source had not divulged additional information to other people). Tai kept making a fool out of himself as well. Luckily, I was able to convince 4chan that Tai was an idiot and trying to get attention for nothing. Of course that didn't stop him from still going around on both 4chan and Gamefaqs shooting off his mouth.

In retrospect I think the above was part of some sort of secret plan between the source and Tai. Tai would try to make a fool out of himself. The source, by association, would be dismissed along with him. After all, both the source and Tai had been named by people and they were both from the exact same forum. So I guess with Tai acting like an idiot and being proven a poser by me, people would think that the source, by association, was also a fake. Though to be honest I really feel like this entire "step" of the process should not have happened. But I guess the source just panicked and didn't know what to do. So I guess they used my ignorance of their "plan" to give more genuine punch to my attacks on Tai, which, I'm guessing they thought, would help to further disassociate them from the leaks.

Anyway, like I thought, Tai wasn't helping the situation and continued to post on 4chan and Gamefaqs. And people still kept bringing up both him and the real source. Then the worst happened - the source's real name, Skype name, and e-mail had been posted in one of the 4chan threads. He had also sent me a message saying he was getting e-mails and friend requests. 4chan was on to him and the situation would get even worse if Nintendo woke up in the morning and found his information (their offices would open in the next 5-6 hours). How would I get 4chan off his back?

At the exact same time, someone had posted a hate thread about me. They were angry I had not leaked the rest of the source's information even though I had promised to. To tell you the truth, because of all of the above crap, I genuinely forgot that I had stated I was going to release the rest of the information if the source was verified. Additionally I was having second thoughts about doing all this because of the source's current position. I was also having triple thoughts about not doing it because I was afraid of pissing off TPCi, which could lead to other problems for my site down the road (as I explained many times). So I posted in the 4chan thread, knowing very well that it probably would not end very well. This way, I would take the attention off the source while also perpetuating my excuse for why I no longer wanted to post the information (the real reason being that his identity was now in jeopardy and Nintendo could come knocking any minute if they discovered his information). The plan worked so well that 4chan even paid our forums a visit (though I wasn't anticipating that). I had to delete most of their posts, which made 4chan even angrier, and further pushed the source out of the picture since they were now focusing on my apparent tyranny. People were so mad they even created a couple more threads bashing me, even Photoshopping my posts. This definitely did not make me feel good, but it was more important that the source's identity remained hidden so Nintendo would not find him. This way we would be able to continue receiving his information in the future too. We just needed to give 4chan something else to focus on. And I would say it definitely worked. He was pretty much forgotten over the next day or so.

Then today the inevitable happened. I lost contact with the source. You can probably guess what happened to him.

So now where does that leave us? I'm not really sure. I still have some information I have not released, and since I did not sign an NDA, nothing is technically holding me back from releasing it. I also talked to several people over the past few days who work under TPCi and all of them agree that the company does not want to work with anyone but themselves. I also sent TPCi an email the other day and they never responded, so I think that speaks for itself. So, before Pokemon Smash airs tomorrow, I will release the remaining information: it is the English names of 5 Pokemon and a few other random facts. Nothing too major other than the names - that probably would not have been the last of the information had everything not gone so awry so quickly.

Anyways, sorry to disappoint all of you guys, but the situation has been beyond my control since almost the beginning. Luckily the X/Y news campaign is probably going to go into full force now so you won’t have to worry about there being such a long lack of news like over these past few months.
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And here's you reading this stuff a few months ago :p

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57738056&postcount=356

I mean, there is the fact that the circumstances under which he posted the first set of rumors (over here), and the second set are different. The first set probably has a higher percentage of correct info.
 
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DaBoss

Member
ColtraineGF said:
I think he was trying to run interference by claiming that it was all incorrect or that the source was different, but by then it was too late because Mageleif's contact info was found, and he was effectively silenced before anything else could be revealed. There was a long post explaining all this somewhere... ah, here:

http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-yo-wpm-riding-info?pid=2435042#pid2435042


And here's you reading this stuff a few months ago :p

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57738056&postcount=356

I mean, there is the fact that the circumstances under which he posted the first set of rumors (over here), and the second set are different. The first set probably has a higher percentage of correct info.
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All right thanks. That conclusion was what I was thinking.

Also, I read terribly, how did I read that as Magileaf? lol

Thanks for finding me reading it lol.
 
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ColtraineGF

Member
And the final thing:

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subtles

Member
I wonder if Pokemon with Air Balloon would be able to participate in sky battles? I know the balloon pops when they are hit but technically they are levitating.
 
Boss Doggie

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So I take it all Ground moves are unavailable, a bunch of items and moves that involve the ground too...

But yeah I wonder about Air Balloon, and Pokemon that can Fly but has no Levitate or Flying type (like Golurk)
 
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Professor Beef

Banned
So my friend let me borrow his DSi since he already has a 3DS, which means I can play Pokemon Black online now. What exactly can I do besides Dream World? I also looked online to see if there were any promotions still alive, and it looks like I missed the boat entirely.
 
Cute Dragon Here

Cute Dragon Here

Member
Professor Beef said:
So my friend let me borrow his DSi since he already has a 3DS, which means I can play Pokemon Black online now. What exactly can I do besides Dream World? I also looked online to see if there were any promotions still alive, and it looks like I missed the boat entirely.
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Have you ever thought about sharing friend codes with other people that you know?
 
entremet

entremet

Member
I'm curious at Sylveon's stat distro. Special attacker? Special Tank? Physical Tank? Physical Attacker? Speedy but frail physical attacker?

A lot of Eevees already have great Special attack: Espeon, Jolteon, Glaceon, and Vaporeon has decent Special attack but like the others.

Flareon and Leafeon are the the Physical Attackers and Umbreon the tank.
 
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ShmeebAlina

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Based on pokes like Clefairy/Jigglypuff/Chansey/Azumarill having HP as highest stat and the other Eevee evo's base stats I'm gonna predict:

HP 130, Atk 60, Def 65, Sp.atk 95, sp.def 65 spd 110 or switch speed and sp.atk around.
 
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Wichu

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My uni runs an annual scavenger hunt where teams have to find certain objects/perform actions. This year, one of them was 'tweak and open a walkable void' for 8 points (consider 'impossible' tasks, such as 'solve the Riemann hypothesis' are only worth 10). Massively regretting not entering the competition now :(
 
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