melonrabbit
Member
Huh? Didn't you originally say this was a place holder vote or am I misreading this:
Where is everyone? Dusk? Royal? Ferret? Gorlak?
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Pokémon Mafia |OT| Gotta Catch Em Scum!
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Huh? Didn't you originally say this was a place holder vote or am I misreading this:
Where is everyone? Dusk? Royal? Ferret? Gorlak?
Ok just had a quick catch up. Still mostly fine voting for CM but looking at other options.
Things I hate:
1) People claiming "dead air" every time the thread goes 3 minutes without a post. Super unhelpful. (That's mostly Sophia, but Darryl also made a similar comment).
2) The accusation that people are "name dropping" Sophia. She comes up a lot because she posts a lot, so what is this accusation supposed to do but shut down conversation surrounding her. Meanwhile several people (myself included) find her suspicious, and while it's possible that scum are fanning the flames I'll worry about that if and only if she flips Town at some point. Melon is guilty of this, and has continued despite my earlier criticism.
Now I see Sophia can double vote - this makes me think she's town - and Blarg wants to vote her for flavour related reasons - this makes me think he's Blarg.
I'm considering voting melon (mostly for the above), also not against Bronx (inactive, recently defended by CM) or Verelios (because I can't see a reason not to).
Things I hate:
1) People claiming "dead air" every time the thread goes 3 minutes without a post. Super unhelpful. (That's mostly Sophia, but Darryl also made a similar comment).
2) The accusation that people are "name dropping" Sophia. She comes up a lot because she posts a lot, so what is this accusation supposed to do but shut down conversation surrounding her. Meanwhile several people (myself included) find her suspicious, and while it's possible that scum are fanning the flames I'll worry about that if and only if she flips Town at some point. Melon is guilty of this, and has continued despite my earlier criticism.
Now I see Sophia can double vote - this makes me think she's town - and Blarg wants to vote her for flavour related reasons - this makes me think he's Blarg.
I'm considering voting melon (mostly for the above), also not against Bronx (inactive, recently defended by CM) or Verelios (because I can't see a reason not to).
My intentions were or still are good but it did kinda backfire since everyone thought or thinks that those "reads" or more summaries are shit.
Sure, but most of the time it feels like 2 people are adressing each other and chiming into a conversation could be seen as "scummy".
Sawneeks for putting Verelios aswell as Stan on top of town. What is top town anyway after day 1 ? I mean someone starts off putting someone high up there as top town, what will follow is that the following lists will put into consideration that the mentioned player was on "top town" and they will unlikely put them down as "scum" or "null read" them. What i am trying to say is that everyone still should be open minded. Dont be so hasty to put someone on a "top town" or "top scum" list. Same can be said about Melon who says " I want to wait and read them all once when hes completed them to really be about to comment " but still puts me down as slight scum. I mean if you are on the one hand saying that you want to wait before you comment and in the same sentence put me down as slight scum, you made a comment. Saying that i am scum. Feel free to disagree melon.
What do you think about Dusk soldier his contributions?
which contributions ?
Other than making this remark
which made me chuckle since it has some thruth into it. There was NOTHING from him, so yes. i dont like the way he plays.
Wow, thats the thing with him and Dusk, aswell as other players. Even though the activity is crazy high there are still a lot of players who tend to dissapear. Of course this can have a lot of reasons but still. With L_P we know he can do better.
Nope i dont agree that it is "more likely to be town power" i mean there was this thing calledwhere a scum had this kind of powerWWE
Hmmm, in the end you might be right so there you have it
I didn't read that. But you're suspect as well. Plently of other people to vote for, but you focused on the guy that's barely around to defend himself.
Huh, what? So I could've bookended my statement with I like Orange Islands and it would've been okay. I prefaced my post with I didn't mind how day 1 goes either way, so why would I care about my suggestion. It really sounds like you're tunneling into this idea that the rng idea was some ingenious scum ploy to kill town.
Which leads me to question why. From what I know, scum like to direct bullets to the side whenever things get to hot for their teammates. I have to wonder, actually, I'm not even wondering, this is obviously an agenda. Give me some concrete theories otherwise your just trying to deflect bullets to me.
Which leads me to question why. From what I know, scum like to direct bullets to the side whenever things get to hot for their teammates. I have to wonder, actually, I'm not even wondering, this is obviously an agenda. Give me some concrete theories otherwise your just trying to deflect bullets to me.
Royal_Flush
Member
No novelty here. Last time he did it was in Danny Phantom (Although not as a final vote). But I guess you remember that yourself. Just wanted to point it out for everyone.
wrong answer. If you don't think we'll find Scum or a good panic action by Scum at least let's vote out the deadweight who shows no intention to contribute in the future (aka Salva)
You're telling me you made this whole list of reasons and posts before you put your vote down?
I don't think we gain much information from any death, unless we happen to hit scum/neutral. Only in hindsight will we maybe be able to put the pieces together. While I have had strong arguments with other players today, that is not by itself a sufficient criteria to find scum, but maybe it will help town in the long run. Maybe on Day 5 someone is going to look back at who interacted with me, at the arguments players brought up and use that to find scum.
I am also against a Topo lynch at this time. His earlier interactions with LP were certainly damning but his recent contributions have left me feeling uncertain about lynching him. It's possible he stepped it up to get out of being lynched though, so I do plan to keep an eye on him in the coming Days.
Gorlak lives in Germany I think?? He is way ahead of everyone else time-wise. Dunno about the rest, though
Gorlak lives in Germany I think?? He is way ahead of everyone else time-wise. Dunno about the rest, though
Barrylocke
Member
I'd rather an Unmasked Ferret Lynch than a no lynch if only because #Triangle is more interesting to me than El Topos thing.
Vote: unmasked ferret
Vote: unmasked ferret
In that case. I'd rather remove deadweight today (as per Royal's suggestion)
Vote: bronx-man
Well, I was going to edit the old post, but ya'll talk a lot, so
CURRENT VOTE COUNT
bronx-man (3)
sophia 323 (462)
stanleypalmtree 442
ynnek7 592
sophia 762
sophia (2)
ty4on 96
fireblend 232 (374)
*splinter 237 (459)
christina mackenzie 400 (673)
blargonaut 711
no lynch (2)
salvapot 572
darryl 739
el topo (2)
sophia 514 (676)
royal_flush 519
melonrabbit 642
sophia 678 (747)
sawneeks (1)
verelios 571
ynnek (1)
fireblend 666
blargonaut (1)
sophia 676 (678)
sophia 676 (678)
bronx-man 715
dusk soldier (1)
roytheone 710
verelios (1)
sawneeks 97
salvapot (1)
gorlak 197 (222)
gorlak 424
blargonaut 590 (668)
unmasked ferret (2)
lone_prodigy 259
sophia 499 (514)
barrylocke 761
lone_prodigy (1)
el topo 275
christina mackenzie (1)
*splinter 459
fireblend (1)
darryl 472 (739)
dusk soldier 543
stanleypalmtree (0)
christina mackenzie 48 (400)
blargonaut 179 (294)
nin1000 (0)
sophia 59 (74)
roytheone 423 (710)
ty4on (0)
darryl 123 (472)
*splinter (0)
melonrabbit 134 (642)
roytheone (0)
gorlak 222 (424)
hyperactivity (0)
fireblend 374 (484)
CURRENT VOTE COUNT
bronx-man (3)
stanleypalmtree 442
ynnek7 592
sophia 762
sophia (2)
ty4on 96
blargonaut 711
no lynch (2)
salvapot 572
darryl 739
el topo (2)
royal_flush 519
melonrabbit 642
sawneeks (1)
verelios 571
ynnek (1)
fireblend 666
blargonaut (1)
bronx-man 715
dusk soldier (1)
roytheone 710
verelios (1)
sawneeks 97
salvapot (1)
gorlak 424
unmasked ferret (2)
lone_prodigy 259
barrylocke 761
lone_prodigy (1)
el topo 275
christina mackenzie (1)
*splinter 459
fireblend (1)
dusk soldier 543
stanleypalmtree (0)
nin1000 (0)
ty4on (0)
*splinter (0)
roytheone (0)
hyperactivity (0)
No, I didn't, that would be silly. I put my initial vote down out of annoyance, but afterwards thought about why I'd be annoyed. So I went back through the thread and explained my reasoning afterwards.
Royal_Flush
Member
No lynch is garbage. If you don't want to vote for El Topo, don't vote for him. El Topo's nervousness has changed into anger apparently, but I don't know what I should make out of this fact. Is just getting angry and (apparently rightfully, idk, hadn't had the time yet to check for myself) pointing out lies (or at least twisted narratives) a Town-Tell? I don't know. I stated in my previous post who I'm willing to vote for. If someone else is vote leader or close to becoming it I will try to swing towards whomever of that list has the most support.
melonrabbit
Member
I think the "<3" from Sawneeks meant they were her top scum.
You still hadn't finished your list, so it not like I could've waited.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Interesting that El Topo is currently leading the vote count (voters are Flush, melon, and Sophia). I do town read him since his reaction to my #coastpost seemed genuine, even though it was defensive. Then again, scum might think #whatwouldscumdo and then do the opposite. WIFOM.
It's like... there's an art exhibit and you're at the door, directing people entering towards one particular painting. There are other interesting things to look at, sure, but focus on that one first.
Let someone come in and make their own reads. I did find it a bit amusing that there was discussion about the triangle, the people who created the triangle, and the people who reacted to the triangle creators. How far does the meta rabbit hole go? My point is not to leave any stone unturned.
Anyway I went through the rest of Ferret's posts and they're rather insignificant, so I'm going to keep my vote on him for now.
It's like... there's an art exhibit and you're at the door, directing people entering towards one particular painting. There are other interesting things to look at, sure, but focus on that one first.
Let someone come in and make their own reads. I did find it a bit amusing that there was discussion about the triangle, the people who created the triangle, and the people who reacted to the triangle creators. How far does the meta rabbit hole go? My point is not to leave any stone unturned.
Anyway I went through the rest of Ferret's posts and they're rather insignificant, so I'm going to keep my vote on him for now.
Yeah, I swung my vote for Bronx to make him vote leader, but I'm up for voting others too.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Took too long to make that post and missed a bunch. Looks like Bronx is in the lead now?
You have exactly 1 vote on you
Although, given the alternatives, I think I'll make that two
VOTE: Bronx-Man
"dead air" usually means there's a lack of conversation about a particular topic, not merely just the quantity of the posts. El Topo was sitting as vote leader for quite a bit and there wasn't really much discussion on figuring it out.
Perhaps I should have made it clear, but 'Top OTPs' was in reference to Stan's joke about changing the word 'Scum' to 'Cute' in a post would make it funny.
So Top OTPs = Top Scum.
Top 'Let's keep 'em around' = the people I feel are Town and don't want to get rid of so I won't vote for them.
Because, again, it feels like you brought it up to discuss it for absolutely no reason. Scum get by when they can look active and not come under fire and, to me, you look like the former. Doesn't help that you sat away from the rest of today's discussion either, a great way for Scum to not leave evidence that can be used against them later. :/
And what concrete theories are you looking for here? Why you would act that way as Scum? Already explained why I feel you are acting that way.
I'm aware of what it means, and it's garbage to bring it up in the situation you did.
Unmasked Ferret
Member
Some random stuff for day end.
Dusk left Stanley out of his previous list of peoples pokemon. It doesn't matter but it was bugging me.
Gorlak left Verelios, Ynnek, and myself off of his previous recap and opinions posts, which I'm only bringing up now because if Gorlak dies at some point and flips scum people are going to point back to that and say "hey he left these three people out of this post, maybe there's something there" even though it probably was because we didn't really do anything of note.
I don't have any solid reads. I was going to vote for CM because of his "why don't you vote for me" post (it sounds like a dare) tied with an apparent reading issue where he not only didn't read the opening post, but must have not understood the part in the pm about getting a pm if a trainer captures you, which to me would imply it's not the same as death. But his recent post I feel a bit more null than before.
While MR brings up a point about Topo I agree with, I also agree that MR is kinda creating a narrative. I don't scum read either (or really anyone really)
Oh hey Barry voted for me while typing this. Sure, you do you Barry
Dusk left Stanley out of his previous list of peoples pokemon. It doesn't matter but it was bugging me.
Gorlak left Verelios, Ynnek, and myself off of his previous recap and opinions posts, which I'm only bringing up now because if Gorlak dies at some point and flips scum people are going to point back to that and say "hey he left these three people out of this post, maybe there's something there" even though it probably was because we didn't really do anything of note.
I don't have any solid reads. I was going to vote for CM because of his "why don't you vote for me" post (it sounds like a dare) tied with an apparent reading issue where he not only didn't read the opening post, but must have not understood the part in the pm about getting a pm if a trainer captures you, which to me would imply it's not the same as death. But his recent post I feel a bit more null than before.
While MR brings up a point about Topo I agree with, I also agree that MR is kinda creating a narrative. I don't scum read either (or really anyone really)
Oh hey Barry voted for me while typing this. Sure, you do you Barry
Oh , my bad then
I hope but you understood what i was getting at with that sentence.
Huh, that is such a nothing excuse to scum read me I can't believe it. Why would I even put out something like that if I was trying to keep a low profile, does that make sense to you? To anyone? Okay, as that's the only read you have good going trying to run with it.
Barrylocke
Member
As for why I'm voting for ferret over fireblend, it's because ferret hasnt been around much since earlier. It's a flimsy reason though and subject to last minute change. I hold by my idea of looking in a potential pool of people that did a thing that I think "a mafia member is probably here" and then narrowing it down. But I see that works best for concrete things like votes, not so much with fluid things like answering a question or giving an opinion.
So we currently have a 4 way tie between sophia, topo, bronx, and no lynch, right? I will keep my vote on dusk in case anyone wants to join, but I may move it to prevent a tie or no lynch or sophia from getting lynched. I still believe a double vote is more likely to be town.
Okay, why do you keep hiding behind Royal? Why are you trusting his suggestions?
Because he's coming off as townish to me.
Lynching me is not per se unreasonable, even though I disagree with the arguments brought up against me. Given that I have been in the focus today, it is possible (and maybe likely) that scum will simply bring me up as a candidate on another day, which would cost us precious time. Furthermore, my death gives certainty, which might help town, given that I've had heated arguments with other players.
melonrabbit
Member
I agree with what you said.
Royal_Flush
Member
5 minutes aren't enough to deeply look into Verelios now but I really don't like how he's been putting up the last few minutes. Bulletpoint for tomorrow, I guess.
Your L_P discussion and its fallout surely looked like put on toughness/anger to hide nervousness. Your current anger seemed genuine.
Your L_P discussion and its fallout surely looked like put on toughness/anger to hide nervousness. Your current anger seemed genuine.
I'm keeping this in memory, just because Ty4on and Sawneeks seems like too good a connection.
*sigh*
NOW you're voting for Melon? Not 40 minutes earlier when I was suspect about her? Not when I voiced my gut read? Not when me and El Topo were having that three way conversation and I was getting cold feet?
For fucks sakes, Splinter...
melonrabbit
Member
Oh you.
Barrylocke
Member
VOTE: melonrabbit
Sorry, flight was delayed, only just caught up.
I am too late though
VOTE: Bronx-Man
But you totally could have Double'd in this post instead of complaining about me