Blargonaut
Banned
lol don't even care about double-post
this kind of Trick Room-ery deserves top of 50ppp
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Pokémon Mafia |OT| Gotta Catch Em Scum!
- Thread starter Burbeting
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lol don't even care about double-post
this kind of Trick Room-ery deserves top of 50ppp
Blargonaut
Banned
spoilers I guess
Blargonaut
Banned
or is it Royal_Flush used Dig
*Splinter?
hmm
*Splinter?
hmm
Christina Mackenzie
Member
VOTE: nin1000
Just in case the votes need to come off Royal_Flush and I'm not around.
Says Bronx-man voters are suspicious but never elaborates why. Paints all of them with a single brush stroke.
Not a great read.
Just in case the votes need to come off Royal_Flush and I'm not around.
Says Bronx-man voters are suspicious but never elaborates why. Paints all of them with a single brush stroke.
Not a great read.
Well nothing I can say against that.
El topo changed my mind about that after I made that post.
If I'm not mistake, the following people don't have votes down and we're two and a half hours from the deadline.
3. Dusk Soldier [m]
10. TheGoddamn [m]
11. El Topo [m]
13. Unmasked Ferret [m]
17. Lone_Prodigy [m]
18. Ynnek7 [m]
21. nin1000 [m]
What's going on here? That's a lot of people....
3. Dusk Soldier [m]
10. TheGoddamn [m]
11. El Topo [m]
13. Unmasked Ferret [m]
17. Lone_Prodigy [m]
18. Ynnek7 [m]
21. nin1000 [m]
What's going on here? That's a lot of people....
Blargonaut
Banned
no wait, Sophia is the ?-shot Power Role capable of shooting, and she's the one being asked by *Splinter to do the shooting, so Sophia has to be the Good, not the one digging
and Royal_Flush is clearly the Bad since he gets shot down all paths
but it also wouldn't make sense if Sophia is doing the shooting, since she's the one who got trap card'd by *Splinter, she's the one who got tricked and has to dig as... but it can't be Sophia doing the digging since she's the one who *Splinter asked to do the shooting and she's the only one capable of shooting... she'd have to somehow be both the Good and... and have to... be...
...did... I just also call Sophia... the... the
and Royal_Flush is clearly the Bad since he gets shot down all paths
but it also wouldn't make sense if Sophia is doing the shooting, since she's the one who got trap card'd by *Splinter, she's the one who got tricked and has to dig as... but it can't be Sophia doing the digging since she's the one who *Splinter asked to do the shooting and she's the only one capable of shooting... she'd have to somehow be both the Good and... and have to... be...
...did... I just also call Sophia... the... the
melonrabbit
Member
If you have questions just be direct and ask.
Dusk Soldier
Member
I know this is really out there and doesn't contribute much to they way the day has shaped up, but I just want to place my vote down. And get my thoughts down.
I haven't followed the royal_flush saga that closely, but it looks like a down deal anyway. I think his flip will be more telling than anything I can say there.
My top scum reads atm are:
Ynnek7 - I think he's played too defensively D1. And focused mainly on looking guiltless, rather than scum hunting. But that's not enough to crucify someone so I'll leave that at there for now.
and
Christina Mackenzie - My earlier comment about the stealth push, was mainly because of Christina's playstyle. I didn't have a real chance to reread the game and take notes so for now Christina's the main red flag jumping out at me.
It feels like he's sent out a lot of feelers regarding lynch targets, but the no vote D1 as well the generally low voting activity makes it feel like he's mainly just looking to start a wagon, rather than searching for scum.
not expecting this to start a late game push to save Royal or anything just want to get my stance out there.
vote: Christina Mackenzie
I haven't followed the royal_flush saga that closely, but it looks like a down deal anyway. I think his flip will be more telling than anything I can say there.
My top scum reads atm are:
Ynnek7 - I think he's played too defensively D1. And focused mainly on looking guiltless, rather than scum hunting. But that's not enough to crucify someone so I'll leave that at there for now.
and
Christina Mackenzie - My earlier comment about the stealth push, was mainly because of Christina's playstyle. I didn't have a real chance to reread the game and take notes so for now Christina's the main red flag jumping out at me.
It feels like he's sent out a lot of feelers regarding lynch targets, but the no vote D1 as well the generally low voting activity makes it feel like he's mainly just looking to start a wagon, rather than searching for scum.
not expecting this to start a late game push to save Royal or anything just want to get my stance out there.
vote: Christina Mackenzie
Unmasked Ferret
Member
Royal I guess since it would give us the info. And now it might help me with my opinion on a few people. (I'm assuming you were asking that between those three again if you weren't please correct me)
On to other matters. For those of you who might care I finished (well mostly) that read list "yay" but I'm not going to post it "sobs and disappointment" "why Ferret, why would you do this to us?" Well because the damn document is three pages long, and despite that and how much time I wasted it's pretty much just three pages of me saying that practically everyone is a null read. I get that I'm not great at reads, but how some of you formed any sort of opinion on certain others is beyond me because everything from a lot of people is just nothing (funny coming from me, I know). So I'll post what I feel are kinda the more important parts in more summary format (so think top town, top scum).
*Splinter - Splinter would probably be my top town now. I like a lot of what Splinter post, and think overall he makes good contributions. I am wary that there were two times that Splinter sorta understood what I was saying or defended me (not quite the right words but close enough), because as Fireblend said "I find people that agree with me suspect". It's also probably smart to keep track of those you put up on town side too.
Sawneeks - Similar to Splinter, I like her contributions and the questions she ask. I can't really see anything overtly scummy. Also likes Typhlosion and Articuno so she's cool in my book.
Roytheone - I wish Roy would post more (I know he had irl stuff yesterday/today) because I agree with a bit of what Roy says even though he doesn't post as often as some others. But I'm probably not hard to please. Leaning town.
CM - While I don't scum read CM now I feel like he is kinda similar to me in a lot of respects at the moment, and to be honest I would find myself pretty suspicious. So that's maybe not the best look for CM. Just thought I would mention this. Kinda turned my opinion around ay the end of day one from slight scum to null, and has not done anything to really reverse that.
Royal_Flush - I've said it before, I always gut read RF as scum, and this game isn't different. The problem is that my gut probably isn't super reliable, and RF at least contributes to the discussion. Part of me looks at his post and thinks "yeah he's sorta shady amd hard to read, but that could be because he's normal or hasn't really done anything yet." I see the votes on him though, and while I'll probably vote him myself, some of the votes currently there give me slight pause.
melonrabbit - Looking back to day one I think "yeah I see why so many people said they were considering voting melon" since it to me it feels like she kinda piggybacked off of LP's post, which then wasn't helped by the whole thing with Topo, and she also created a weird connection to Sophia for some reason. Day two MR looks noticeably less scummy in her post in my opinion, but that also raises an eyebrow since maybe she just saw that others were considering her and she tried to clean up her act.
Verelios - I have no idea what to make of you. You aren't what I would call null, but my opinion of you shifts back and forth so often that I could actually see you being put into any group, and that bothers me. Neutral for now.
nin1000 - Nin you broke my heart (sad Ferret). Anyway, I can't say much about nin he would have fallen into complete null if not for his earlier focus on those who voted Bronx, which could have easily been used as a cover. It causes me a headache to think whether it was actually some false crusade and other scum talked hom down, or if it was just nin being nin. Just a slight scum read here.
I'll be back in a bit.
Blargonaut
Banned
It's okay, I know I'm a difficult read, don't feel bad
It's only right that you're giving me the most attention and word count
Take your time, I can wait
Lone_Prodigy
Member
6 votes on Flush. After Splinter's vote at #1129, there's a 156 post gap before Sawneeks' vote at #1285. And then in the next ~200 posts, there's a vote from melon, Verelios, Stanley, and Sophia (multiple votes). Seems sudden.
Sophia, I'm curious. What reaction were you looking for from CM? If he is scum wouldn't you expect a non-reaction from his teammates as the focus is on Flush right now? If he is town, two votes aren't that much and the bandwagon is on Flush now, so why jump?
Sophia, I'm curious. What reaction were you looking for from CM? If he is scum wouldn't you expect a non-reaction from his teammates as the focus is on Flush right now? If he is town, two votes aren't that much and the bandwagon is on Flush now, so why jump?
Lone_Prodigy
Member
VOTE: Gorlak
Where have you been?
Where have you been?
Blargonaut
Banned
ehhhh, whatever
I'm not really feeling a Royal_Flush lynch Today myself anyway, he seemed as Town to me with his defense of Sophia
CM feels a bit more scummy than him, IMO
UNVOTE: SalvaPot
VOTE: Christina Mackenzie
Now that you mention it, the non-reaction was curious. Huh.
What do you think of CM? I'm scum reading slightly him because of his D2 activity.
Blargonaut
Banned
you don't have to Doublevote Royal_Flush, Soph
*Sp's game doesn't hinge on the target, only the use
You should Doublevote CM instead
*Sp's game doesn't hinge on the target, only the use
You should Doublevote CM instead
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Because what I typed wasn't what I meant? I've seen instances when a typo gets way overblown (PiR), so I'm just clarifying it.
I'm not a fan of parroting and going with the consensus; that's all fine and dandy when you're following confirmed town, but scum are influencing our discussion topics and votes. I'm just curious why it's so hard for others to acknowledge you outside of answering a few safe questions.
You know, a vote on a quiet (for the past day about) player, with no previous votes on him, this late in the day phase seems kind of suspect. Like you need to put a vote down to avoid suspicion, but want to play it safe and not play part in a lynch.
Now, watch me be a hypocrite!
VOTE: Lone_Prodigy
Blargonaut
Banned
Lol. Yennek ,that made me laugh and also more interested in your place on this game. Flying low, lurking and not tipping on any toes.
I considered joining in on the Royal vote, but realized that I didn't really have any reads on the whole situation, nor the time right now to get a good understanding of it.
Flush is team rocket?Think of this as Royal_Flush:
and this as CM:
Which would you rather have
Christina Mackenzie, what would you say septated your town and scum game? Like what should I see you doing here which you weren't doing in PiR?
There's plenty of time for some understanding.
Not when I'm sitting at my desk working on something and leaping between that and my phone to follow the game.
Blargonaut
Banned
and CM's a Box, yeah
Please, there are plenty of games where scum leans back while town eats itself.
It's good to be sceptical, but there's sometimes smoke where there's fire.
Blargonaut
Banned
Listening to jazz always helped me concentrate on whatever work, I can make a couple of recommendations if you like
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Vote for the vote leader: suspicious
Vote for anyone else: suspicious
Vote early: suspicious
Vote late: suspicious
Don't vote: suspicious
I can't even
Just keeping my options open. I've seen a couple people go "oh yeah Ferret didn't vote I'll have to look into that" and... that's it.
Sorry, I thought you were focusing on the current lynch targets.
Talking about it : suspicious
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Going off this post mostly.
Even in his posts after this, there's still talk about your double-vote and alignment. After Topo's reveal that caught Pokemon lose their power, that possibly confirms that you are a free Pokemon. So I'm not sure why there's still a bunch of neutral talk. It's fine being skeptical of a non-flipped player, but is this discussion going to continue until you die?
And then seemingly out of nowhere, he drops a vote on nin1000 and peaces out:
Do you town read Sophia?
Blargonaut
Banned
If I were scum I'd never die at Night
What scum would NK Blarg? Only thought of that in DP because you named almost all of us, but it'd be too obvious because what scum NKs Blarg?
Who do you... accuses? Apart from CM.
I don't speak French.
sophia (1)
gorlak 830
thegoddamn 1044 (1155)
verelios (2)
melonrabbit 832 (871)
fireblend 1226
salvapot 1355
roytheone (1)
sawneeks 836 (911)
blargonaut 985 (1015)
nin1000 1520
dusk soldier (1)
roytheone 872
nin1000 (1)
sawneeks 911 (1285)
christina mackenzie 1504
stanleypalmtree (0)
verelios 923 (988)
blargonaut (0)
blargonaut 1015 (1161)
royal_flush (7)
*splinter 1129
sawneeks 1285
sophia 1291 (1342)
melonrabbit 1326
verelios 1346
stanleypalmtree 1451
sophia 1454 (1497)
sophia 1497
sophia 1497
unmasked ferret (0)
blargonaut 1167 (1201)
salvapot (1)
blargonaut 1201 (1515)
royal_flush 1387
thegoddamn (1)
ty4on 1255
christina mackenzie (2)
sophia 1342 (1454)
sophia 1342 (1454)
dusk soldier 1510
blargonaut 1515
gorlak (1)
lone_prodigy 1514
lone_prodigy (1)
ynnek7 1521
gorlak 830
verelios (2)
fireblend 1226
salvapot 1355
roytheone (1)
nin1000 1520
dusk soldier (1)
roytheone 872
nin1000 (1)
christina mackenzie 1504
stanleypalmtree (0)
blargonaut (0)
royal_flush (7)
*splinter 1129
sawneeks 1285
melonrabbit 1326
verelios 1346
stanleypalmtree 1451
sophia 1497
sophia 1497
unmasked ferret (0)
salvapot (1)
royal_flush 1387
thegoddamn (1)
ty4on 1255
christina mackenzie (2)
dusk soldier 1510
blargonaut 1515
gorlak (1)
lone_prodigy 1514
lone_prodigy (1)
ynnek7 1521
Pls speak up Gorlak ;_;
melonrabbit
Member
At work. Won't be back before deadline. Sticking with Royal.
Blargonaut
Banned
J'accuse ma liste des triangles
Blargonaut
Banned
but why
Unmasked Ferret
Member
Ok I'm back. So on to the problems I currently have. I don't feel great about some of the Royal votes, even if I scum read him myself. The problem is, would scum being willing to bus so early, and if any of the people I have mixed or not great feelings for would be in the group. I'm especially bothered by melon, who if Royal is scum and they're willing to bus him why wouldn't they bus melon when so many people said "yeah I would be (or would have been) fine with a melon lynch"? Not only that but I can't think of any reason besides maybe the roles they may have, that would make any of the others more valuable than Royal since again they all kinda had some suspicions at some point.
Of course there's also Sophia, who I'm currently at neutral (not null, not neutral roll, could go either way neutral) with slight town lean on since Piplup is such an out of nowhere pokemon to give her role I'm more inclined to believe it rather than that she made it up, but I admit there's always the possibility. But I like to keep it in mind in case Royal is scum, because the potential interest in Sophia as scum double could die down. Of course I don't know how scum roles work either and they might need to catch Pokemon (I don't think we've been told they even can) in order to have abilities (I doubt it though, because for all I know they might not be able to catch Pokemon).
This is getting me nowhere. It doesn't help that Royal is voted on Salva though since that's a whole lot of no use info.
Vote: Royal_Flush
Screw it, sticking to my gut, even if there's already a bunch of votes on him.
In a separate chain of thought I also have mixed feelings about Topo's claims regarding being captured. I want to believe him, but I'm going to remain skeptical until there's more info available to me about it.
*Looks at Blarg entry, looks back at Blarg, smiles and nods* yeah sure.
Let me know if you ever find out.
Of course there's also Sophia, who I'm currently at neutral (not null, not neutral roll, could go either way neutral) with slight town lean on since Piplup is such an out of nowhere pokemon to give her role I'm more inclined to believe it rather than that she made it up, but I admit there's always the possibility. But I like to keep it in mind in case Royal is scum, because the potential interest in Sophia as scum double could die down. Of course I don't know how scum roles work either and they might need to catch Pokemon (I don't think we've been told they even can) in order to have abilities (I doubt it though, because for all I know they might not be able to catch Pokemon).
This is getting me nowhere. It doesn't help that Royal is voted on Salva though since that's a whole lot of no use info.
Vote: Royal_Flush
Screw it, sticking to my gut, even if there's already a bunch of votes on him.
In a separate chain of thought I also have mixed feelings about Topo's claims regarding being captured. I want to believe him, but I'm going to remain skeptical until there's more info available to me about it.
It's okay, I know I'm a difficult read, don't feel bad
It's only right that you're giving me the most attention and word count
Take your time, I can wait
*Looks at Blarg entry, looks back at Blarg, smiles and nods* yeah sure.
Let me know if you ever find out.
C'est vrai... J'oublie
I'm not sure how much you can read into the votes right now. Splinter voiced a pretty aggressive attack and it's not weird for panicking scum to bus.
Why? I don't see why he would lie about that.
