CuteFaceJay
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How do you all act so new? None of you were crying theft when Bloodstained or Cassette Beasts or Bomb Rush Cyberfunk came out. Doing a parody or a style homage is commonplace and has held up in court time and time again. These controversies go back to to Great Giana Sisters and Fighters History, and time and time again the courts have upheld them.It's obvious theft.
Won't be long before Nintendo forces Steam to take this down.
That it became so popular though should be a warning call to TPC/Nintendo: Make a better Pokemon game.
That statement is telling, though. Like a lot of people are taking this to mean "Oh we shut down rip offs like this all the time," but to my knowledge that never happened, the only games they shut down were fan games that used actual Nintendo IP.BTW did anybody read the comment in context of the full sentence? "This looks like the usual ripoff nonsense that I would see a thousand times a year when I was Chief Legal Officer of Pokemon."
I 100% believe that if I had been chief legal officer for Pokemon and saw this I'd be like oh anotherone.gif
As Vanilla Ice said: resample how much you want, if you don't make a fortune no one cares, but as soon as you're making millions, they're coming after you.God damn this game is creating a lot of tertiary butthurt. I don't really get it, what has this game done exactly to the Pokemon IP that's so much worse than what Gamefreak has been doing to it for years?
Warning to ALL games one day comparnies will use cheap AI instead of AAA spending hundreds of millionians.It's obvious theft.
Won't be long before Nintendo forces Steam to take this down.
That it became so popular though should be a warning call to TPC/Nintendo: Make a better Pokemon game.
Warning to ALL games one day comparnies will use cheap AI instead of AAA spending hundreds of millionians.
even if its goord they can still steal it with AIMaybe the Pokémon company should save their legal money and put that towards building Gamefreak a decent engine so we can actually get a GOOD looking Pokémon game for this supposedly pretty powerful Switch 2…E
Can’t come soon enough. We had a good run. It’s time to see if the created can do better.war against the machines coming
its all true im sorry my friends
That statement is telling, though. Like a lot of people are taking this to mean "Oh we shut down rip offs like this all the time," but to my knowledge that never happened, the only games they shut down were fan games that used actual Nintendo IP.
There really isn't any legitimate precedent for Nintendo to take this game down, sorry.
And vice versa, it would seem.Palworld is free publicity for Pokemon
Well, he did go on to say that he was surprised it made it this far. What's the reason? I think it's taken to be "I'm surprised they didn't take it down yet", but he could really just mean he's surprised it got so popular.
From what I've seen of Palworld I can't really draw many parallels but I don't play Pokemon so I might be missing something.
What I wonder is how a game like Palworld could get into trouble in a world where fucking Digimon exists.
So Palworld is a better Pokemon game than the original Pokemon huh.
Regarding King Kong, Universal Studios tried that 40 years ago, and Nintendo's lawyers fucked them up so badly that it was proved in court that they didn't actually own King Kong at all.So the IP owners of King Kong, Superman and Peter Pan are going to sue Nintendo, too?
That it became so popular though should be a warning call to TPC/Nintendo: Make a better Pokemon game.
The main parallel is coming up with the designs of all the creatures by tossing existing Pokemon in a blender.
I see, in that case Nintendo probably won't let it slide.
It's a shame because from what I've heard Palworld is a really good game. If they just had the precaution of being more original they would be fine.
Yeah and look, he may mean it that way, but if he does he's blowing hot air. Name me one game they took down that didn't explicitly use characters from their game. I'll wait.Well, he did go on to say that he was surprised it made it this far. What's the reason? I think it's taken to be "I'm surprised they didn't take it down yet", but he could really just mean he's surprised it got so popular.
It doesn't seem like they ripped any assets. It does look like they probably used a lot of Pokemon as reference material for various design elements, but none of them are exact.If they indeed ripped assets than altering them further wont be enough. They will pay nintendo big time and that will probably end the studio.
Yeah and look, he may mean it that way, but if he does he's blowing hot air. Name me one game they took down that didn't explicitly use characters from their game. I'll wait.
It doesn't seem like they ripped any assets. It does look like they probably used a lot of Pokemon as reference material for various design elements, but none of them are exact.
I don't think Palworld actually used any AI assets though, wasn't that just a thing hysterical era posters made up on pure speculation?Well that why I said if anything else would be using ai for asset creation. Most AIs are trained on copyrighted data. There "could" be a case but it remains to be seen if nintendo will bother.
Don't know why but in my youtube recommendations some dude appeared recently doing all sorts of sculpting in a few hours. Pretty detailed and for my eyes pretty close to whatever source he used. Which were often pictures or sometimes 3d models. Did not result in a 100% to scale result but generally nailing the design. A talented sculptor can judging by that probably do several pokemon like figures each day, since those are imho far less detailed than what that dude does just for fun in his streams. It hardly will end with the most creative results, but just changing a little bit, but generally knowing what you want to do is a lot faster than trying to find your design from cratch. The actual tedious work has still to be done but while a judge might not understand it, the real creative work was to find the design, which certainly is the part which can be copied without actually copying anything. Although I think everything Pokemon looks terrifyingly bad, just having it as the underlying blueprint even if not actually used, is helping a tremendous amount and easily shortening your work hours many times over.It doesn't seem like they ripped any assets. It does look like they probably used a lot of Pokemon as reference material for various design elements, but none of them are exact.
It's Nintendo... They go after fucking everyone and their mothersThere's many reasons why TPC hasn't gone after any of the others, namely that they don't really have to care, since they're on top no matter how many ripoffs get made.
If you go after Palworld, then you will have to go after a ton of other Poke-likes which could have a chilling effect on the genre.
Superman is probably referring to super mario world and after with the whole cape.Regarding King Kong, Universal Studios tried that 40 years ago, and Nintendo's lawyers fucked them up so badly that it was proved in court that they didn't actually own King Kong at all.
Nintendo thanked their legal rep by buying him a boat called the Donkey Kong.
Not sure what you're getting at with Superman and Peter Pan, though.
Pocket Pair has another game called AI: Art Imposter - it's like a Jackbox games / party drawing game that uses AI art generation as it's central theme.I don't think Palworld actually used any AI assets though, wasn't that just a thing hysterical era posters made up on pure speculation?
But that's just the thing. They don't look inspired. They look plagiarized. Digimon = inspired. Big difference.From a gameplay stance, it is a rip of of ark survival evolved, basically nothing to do with Pokémon.
Some of the monster models feel heavily inspired. However, that is nothing new, Pokémon has 'been inspired' by others in the past, and it's a perfectly normal thing to happen in all media. Being "ripoff nonssense" isn't' illegal, if it was, we wouldn't have a thousand fps that all play, and look the same, or a thousand open world bore fest that all play the same, or a thousand Sony over the shoulder cinematic walkie talkies that all play and look the same.
the actual copyrighted slogan is "Gotta catch 'em all" which is entirely different to "Go catch 'em all", nothing to see here.
No the difference is when something is plagiarized. Looking plagiarized and being plagiarized are very different. If I think a painting has a great sky and I emulate it. It will look and possibly be quite similar. That is not plagiarism. Taking the exact sky and changing a few things is plagiarism. We have people stating as a fact that they are plagiarizing with no actual evidence. We do not have evidence of them taking the models and tweaking them? The most we have are people claiming that the models are similar. If the models were ripped and altered Nintendo will find out and a suit will be forthcoming. If not nothing will happen.But that's just the thing. They don't look inspired. They look plagiarized. Digimon = inspired. Big difference
No the difference is when something is plagiarized. Looking plagiarized and being plagiarized are very different. If I think a painting has a great sky and I emulate it. It will look and possibly be quite similar. That is not plagiarism. Taking the exact sky and changing a few things is plagiarism. We have people stating as a fact that they are plagiarizing with no actual evidence. We do not have evidence of them taking the models and tweaking them? The most we have are people claiming that the models are similar. If the models were ripped and altered Nintendo will find out and a suit will be forthcoming. If not nothing will happen.
This is what Nintendo does when they know they have a case.
I would assume they are looking into this and have been since the company posted their first trailer.