AlteredBeast
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Looks like West Omaha is going to have to come back down to reality then.
Aaron Strife
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So if Bush was down about 2.5 points, and won by 3, we can safely assume a 5.5 point swing in favor of the incumbent, so it looks like Obama really has an 8 point lead. Aww yeah, making it rain benjamins in the EC.
PantherLotus
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Just remember to take 2% off all polling for Obama.
The only thing I'll agree with PD on is that Obama was able to more easily break past 50% because a. anti-Bush/anti-GOP fever swept the nation and b. Sarah Palin scared the everlovin' shit out of swing voters. Those were two huge things that ended up really helping Obama.
He is going to have to fight like hell this time around to get the same result. I agree with you more than PD on the issue in terms of polling and such, but let's not act like it's going to come as easily this time around. The economy still blows and he's the sitting President. That's just the reality of the situation.
I think the "Firms" ad is a clear indication as to what they are prepared to do as the campaign heads into the fall. And I'm glad he is starting to be a bit more aggressive. He needs to keep it up. I hate US politics, but he's already at a disadvantage thanks to SuperPACs, so he has no choice but to go into this thing swinging.
One thing I've noticed is that the ground game for Obama doesn't seem to be as energized this time around. If I didn't work 50 hours a week I'd try to find more time to do my part here in PA. The campaign needs to start encouraging a strong GOTV effort and educating Pennsylvanians about the new voter ID law and what they may have to do in order to not get turned away on the 7th of November.
I volunteered a little in 2008, but I've gotta say, there are a lot of tea partiers in western PA the further away you get from Pittsburgh. I won't lie when I say these people tend to scare me a bit. You really do have to wonder about the safety of volunteers going door to door... if these people happily bring their firearms to rallies across the nation, just imagine what could happen this time around if a volunteer knocks on one of their doors. These people are foaming-at-the-mouth mad at Obama and anyone who supports him.
He is going to have to fight like hell this time around to get the same result. I agree with you more than PD on the issue in terms of polling and such, but let's not act like it's going to come as easily this time around. The economy still blows and he's the sitting President. That's just the reality of the situation.
I think the "Firms" ad is a clear indication as to what they are prepared to do as the campaign heads into the fall. And I'm glad he is starting to be a bit more aggressive. He needs to keep it up. I hate US politics, but he's already at a disadvantage thanks to SuperPACs, so he has no choice but to go into this thing swinging.
One thing I've noticed is that the ground game for Obama doesn't seem to be as energized this time around. If I didn't work 50 hours a week I'd try to find more time to do my part here in PA. The campaign needs to start encouraging a strong GOTV effort and educating Pennsylvanians about the new voter ID law and what they may have to do in order to not get turned away on the 7th of November.
I volunteered a little in 2008, but I've gotta say, there are a lot of tea partiers in western PA the further away you get from Pittsburgh. I won't lie when I say these people tend to scare me a bit. You really do have to wonder about the safety of volunteers going door to door... if these people happily bring their firearms to rallies across the nation, just imagine what could happen this time around if a volunteer knocks on one of their doors. These people are foaming-at-the-mouth mad at Obama and anyone who supports him.
RustyNails
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Exactly. The argument of letting 3rd world develop through outsourcing reeks of naivete and at worst condescending. 3rd world countries need to learn about self sustaining economies. Isnt that what conservatives love, not relying on others? Outsourcing may not be unethical, but its definitely not in favor of America or its citizens.
Well Mitt Romney just copy Obama's ad lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIajeW6xPnI&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIajeW6xPnI&feature=player_embedded#!
Lol. The campaign is a complete wreck in July.
Romney Goes After Obama On Political Payoffs, Fast and Furious
They are getting very desperate now.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-goes-after-obama-on-political-payoffs-fast
They are getting very desperate now.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The effect of the song they're going for is slightly ruined by all the people cheering.
Romney's defense for a lack of transparency on taxes is "Well, Obama does it too!"?
Wow.
I fully expect the
"Mitt Romney = Rubber
Barack Obama = Glue"
Series of Romney ads to come out any day now.
They also released how awesome Romney's death sentence idea in MA was. Yes ... his death sentence idea.
Just had to Google this.
Curious how religious conservatives can be motivated to cite "the power of science" when it comes to helping kill people, but brush it off when it comes to things like climate change, evolution etc.
RustyNails
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So David Gergen of CNN wrote a valiant defense of Bain and Romney's departure. Also, David Gergen used to work for Bain. Funny that.
Great waste of time, Congress:
http://online.wsj.com/article/AP05acb994f8754be88765bfbd2ffdb0ca.html
FAUX OUTRAGE!!!!!!!
http://online.wsj.com/article/AP05acb994f8754be88765bfbd2ffdb0ca.html
FAUX OUTRAGE!!!!!!!
Why are you making fun of your own post history?
eBay Huckster
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Same reason the GOP makes fun of its own post history
The Librarian
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Faux outrage over what? I think it's pretty sad – but maybe not angry sad – that the US Olympic team doesn't have uniforms that were made in the USA.
Why are you showing such faux outrage on this issue when you could be focusing your attention on our 34th effort to repeal Obamacare!!!!
So you consider John Dingell introducing universal healthcare in the House for 53 years in a row, what, exactly?
cartoon_soldier
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He is introducing a solution?
I wouldn't even have a big problem with GOP Repeal votes if they also put out a replacement bill
The Librarian
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The whole House has voted on universal health care legislation in the last 53 years how many times?
balladofwindfishes
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Isn't a congressman suppose to lobby and push for his state's best interests? Seems a senator of New York pushing to have New York make something for the Olympics is just the sort of thing I'd want a representative to do.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Looks like it's Pawlenty. A safe pick.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/pawlenty-looked-at-as-romney-running-mate.html?_r=2
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/pawlenty-looked-at-as-romney-running-mate.html?_r=2
worldrunover
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Wait does he do it an average of once a year or an average of 17 times a year? Just curious.
Drudge visitors hope not:
DRUDGE POLL:
Thank you for voting!
JINDAL 8.58% (7,512 votes)
PAWLENTY 4.3% (3,769 votes)
RICE 30.23% (26,471 votes)
RYAN 14.94% (13,079 votes)
RUBIO 41.95% (36,728 votes)
Total Votes: 87,559
RUBIO MEANS BROWNS WILL VOTE FOR ROMNEY SO PLEASE PICK HIM
It's either going to be Portman or Pawlenty. They are going to go for the exact opposite of the 2008 GOP pick this time. I could also definitely see them announcing it this week in an effort to quiet this Bain talk a bit.
It's either going to be Portman or Pawlenty. They are going to go for the exact opposite of the 2008 GOP pick this time. I could also definitely see them announcing it this week in an effort to quiet this Bain talk a bit.
The Librarian
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I want an answer, Kosmo.
You shouldn't expect one. Whenever he's proven wrong, he just changes the subject and ignores you.
teruterubozu
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I thought Condi Rice would be an overwhelming favorite. Not Tea Party enough I guess.
No idea, nor do I know why Democrats never brought it up (I assume) in the 41 of those 53 years when they controlled the house.
Too sensible on social issues.
Her being pro-choice would be a deal breaker for a huge number of conservatives. Some people are so passionate about that stance that they would likely stay home, despite how much they hate Obama. Romney not being well-liked by conservatives already would only amplify the problem.
PhoenixDark
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Voters came home to the incumbent during a war, that's not surprising. 2004 was quite a different election from most that include an incumbent. I think I'd agree 2012 is as well in many ways but we don't know to what extent. Still the 50% marker is important and Obama isnt there yet. Romney is going to rebound eventually, it always happens.
But that new Romney ad is pathetic....that's what they came did with their backs against the wall?
teruterubozu
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I thought the McCain campaign was a clusterfuck, but holy shit at Romney's campaign chaos.
How is he supposed to convince people he can run anything?
Manmademan
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I can see portman, but I'm struggling to see any benefit pawlenty brings to the table
Portman brings Bush-era liability. Rubio probably doesn't want the gig. Pawlenty might be all he has left.
Neither one of them really bring anything, which I think is the point. They are completely safe and the Romney camp just hopes they drum up no attention on their own.
Yeah, Rubio has a pretty strong career ahead of him in this party and he likely knows that jumping onto this sinking ship would only hurt him going forward.
Pawlenty really isn't doing much of anything, so he probably would take it.
PantherLotus
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Sidenote: I think accidentally comparing yourself to Jon Kerry is a fucking terrible decision.
teruterubozu
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Jon Kerry, Scott Brown, Mitt Romney - all those Massachusetts blowdried Kennedy-imitating blowhards are essentially the same guy. He can't escape that.
PhoenixDark
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Romney is naming his vp this week. Reminds me of when McCain named Palin during the period where his ten houses were being discussed 24/7.
Manmademan
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Has the Romney campaign made any decisions yet that were NOT "fucking terrible?"
Wow... what a horrible ad. I couldn't help but smile the whole freaking time. That clip just does that to me. It's just a nice, humanizing, charismatic display, and it shows through in the ad, since you can still hear the cheers of the crowd. Showing his shit-eating grin at the end was also a mistake, I think. Really, just a terrible ad for trying to hit Obama back... It's like they were just thinking "Oh, we need to copy that ad... quick, find Obama singing. I know there was that one clip! Use that!"
And did people talk about his ten houses afterward? I guess Palin being so bad made it a moot point.
That was a rather nice spin into Fast and Furious.
The Librarian
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Okay, so you admit you have no idea, and in turn, somewhat admitting that your original assertion was not comparable to what Tim-E posted. Then you move your goalposts.
Your original post:
In this post, you attack Democratic Congressman John Dingell for introducing universal health care legislation "53 years in a row," implying he's wasting the people's time and money. In doing so, comparing it to the whole House voting on universal health care legislation or repealing such legislation (as a response to Tim-E's post).Kosmo said:
In this post, you attack the Democrats for not voting on the legislation as a whole House! You just attacked a Democratic congressman for introducing it too many times! You responded to a post saying it's a waste of time to bring up legislation so many times when it doesn't hope to pass! WHAT ARE YOU DOING
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Oh, I have a headache.
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