This is true, naturally, but I read somewhere yesterday, maybe even here, that hispanics are a much smaller percentage in the swing states, than they are in states that are solid blue.
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This is true, naturally, but I read somewhere yesterday, maybe even here, that hispanics are a much smaller percentage in the swing states, than they are in states that are solid blue.
cartoon_soldier
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Federal government deports illegal immigrants at its discretion, so Obama could increase deportations like he did in the first two years and he can do the opposite too.
I was doing males only, because that was the hypothetical we were using.
PantherLotus
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I dunno. It's a good question. My guess is that there's legal room for the executive to order certain things to not be enforced, like DADT or this first effort at the DREAM act. Does the President have the same authority over the IRS that he does over the DOJ and the Military?
Let's find out, because Kosmo has a good question here.
Dude Abides
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Nothing. But it's pretty funny that Yoo came up with it, since he thinks that US law against torture shouldn't be enforced.
Well, to an extent it's already happening and started under Bush (but in the opposite direction). In the mid 2000's the IRS was instructed to go after small businesses in a number of ways. S-Corp designations, contract workers, designation (women owned, disadvantaged, etc.) shading...all kinds of tax dodges that were heretofore overlooked were suddenly getting cracked down on.
They make up 9-12% of the voting population in the swing states, you get them to turnout you will win. Its really that simple, especially in close states.
Of course getting them to turnout is the key and easier said then done.
The importance though is its just another group the GOP has lost along with women and the young
You cannot continue to win elections solely betting on old white religious americans
I wish he was still campaigning so I could see the spin on it.
"President Obama’s claim that he can refuse to deport 800,000 aliens here in the country illegally illustrates the unprecedented stretching of the Constitution and the rule of law."
Says the guy who wrote the literal book on torture.
Welcome to the Twilight Zone, pot meet kettle. John Yoo was absolutely embarrassed on Daily Show two years ago
"our worst presidents were the ones who deferred to congress" -Yoo
Yoo has no credibility and yet managed to tarnish ours, Krauthammer is hit or miss, but at least credible.
Kraut:
"That was then. Now he’s gone and done it anyway. It’s obvious why. The election approaches and his margin is slipping. He needs a big Hispanic vote and congress did jack shit with the Dream Act."
Guileless
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There is no "legal" issue. It's a consequrnce of the separation of powers and is the kind of dispute left to politics to resolve rather than the courts. Pres. Obama calculated that any political price he pays for ignoring Congress is worth the potential rewards.
If a Republican ever feels the same, maybe she will try that and quit collecting capital gains from all of the blond haired, blue eyed genetically engineered supermen in the .1%. A brief news item announcing the change will pop up on our VR visors while we are waiting to join a game of Modern Warfare 8.
I think this about sums up the past 7-8 years:
http://cowles.econ.yale.edu/P/cd/d17b/d1784.pdf
It makes you wonder if we didn't just erase all the bad mortgages (at the consumer level), we wouldn't find ourselves in a much stronger place right now. It probably would have paid for itself in a very short time.
http://cowles.econ.yale.edu/P/cd/d17b/d1784.pdf
It makes you wonder if we didn't just erase all the bad mortgages (at the consumer level), we wouldn't find ourselves in a much stronger place right now. It probably would have paid for itself in a very short time.
SouthernDragon
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I don't exactly trust John Yoo on much of anything.
foreign policy recently ran a great piece on why Oil is about to bottom out, and there was also a supplemental piece at FT's alphaville that buttressed this view of oil dropping further. basically, it comes down to five factors that involve Saudi Arabia. 1)saudi is playing a very long game and is upset at russia for vetoing security council resolutions against syria. russia, along with iran and Venezuela, are economies that are dependent on oil being above $110 (brent) a barrel in order to sustain a balanced budget. while saudi needs for oil to be above $95, they can sustain a lower price due to their holdings of US debt. thus, by dramatically lowering the price they increase pressure both on iran and russia 2) strangle the emerging shale and natural gas markets in the United States, primarily in North Dakota and South Texas, and tar sands in Canada 3) last time SA flooded the market with cheap oil was late 90s and in their view, helped to contribute in solving asian debt crisis 4) wants to forestall US policy geared towards energy conservation and new technologies and 5) would like to be included in the G20.
if anyone has a membership to FT Alphaville, i'll gladly post the link that expounds on this topic more.
Blergmeister
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From what I understood on the deportation thing, the law basically moves illegal immigrants who match the criteria (brought in by their folks, currently working, etc) to the back of the deportation line instead of in front of it. To use the tax collection anology, it would be the like prosecuting people who cheat on their income tax first and moving the people who cheat on capital gains to the back of the line.
I could be completely wrong on this though.
I could be completely wrong on this though.
Rick Scott Goes Off Message: Florida Economy Is Doing Extremely Well
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...my-is-doing-extremely-well.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
Mr. Issa should just stick to talking about the Interwebs regarding net neutrailty.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah, too bad Hispanics don't ever vote. Bad news for Obummer.
Joke post?
The Librarian
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Really?
Aaron Strife
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PhoenixDark
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Report: Issa Staffer Offered To Stop Holder Contempt Vote For DOJ Scalp
Totally not about politics right
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...older_contempt_vote_for_doj_scalp.php?ref=fpa
Totally not about politics right
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
You are right, but here's the article, it was a N. Silver joint.
Hispanic Voters Less Plentiful in Swing States
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...rs-less-plentiful-in-swing-states/#more-31346
Black Republican
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I await the days Texas is a swing state
You are more likely to wake up as a woman in the next 10 years. After that things might change
PantherLotus
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LMAO
In between lowering gas prices (I'll believe it when I see it here in the SHOW ME state), Issa's bumbling witch hunt exposed, the new thing about Romney outsourcing, movement in the polls towards Obama (outliers be damned), and the mini DREAM act catching Romney/Rubio/everyone off-guard, it's hard not to say that Obama didn't have a very very good week, jobs notwithstanding.
Obviously all of this is small potatoes to what's happening in Syria, the Euro, and the fed's refusal to do its job for political gain. But still. Everything at this moment -- other than the economy -- points to a 290+ EV win for Obama.
In between lowering gas prices (I'll believe it when I see it here in the SHOW ME state), Issa's bumbling witch hunt exposed, the new thing about Romney outsourcing, movement in the polls towards Obama (outliers be damned), and the mini DREAM act catching Romney/Rubio/everyone off-guard, it's hard not to say that Obama didn't have a very very good week, jobs notwithstanding.
Obviously all of this is small potatoes to what's happening in Syria, the Euro, and the fed's refusal to do its job for political gain. But still. Everything at this moment -- other than the economy -- points to a 290+ EV win for Obama.
PantherLotus
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Other than size, it looks an awful lot like Missouri to me. Lots of rural racists, entrenched conservatives in the suburbs, and a gigantic liberal core in the urban districts - Houston, San Antonio, and Dallas/FW. Add an ever-growing Mexican immigrant population (and their voting progeny), and I can see it.
Not likely, and probably disappointingly not likely for the next decade and a half, but I can see it.
Texas used to be democratic, LBJ was a Gov. from Texas, redistricting kinda fucked it.
Blergmeister
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That was before the parties were transformed into what they are today by the Republicans Southern Strategy.
The Librarian
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LBJ was never a governor, and I don't see how redistricting causes a state to go from blue to red. It was a reactionary thing to the CRA and a shift in voter attitudes.
Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia used to be solid Democratic as well. The parties aren't quite what they used to be. A lot of the south went red after civil rights.
PantherLotus
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That's so weird, considering there's so many black people down there.
ah, yes, house rep, then senator, sorry.
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Deadly Premonition
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/karoli/richard-mourdock-celebrates-scotus-striking
Frank the Great
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section 2, voting rights act
PhoenixDark
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cue ad mentioning stimulus money going to China
Fuck.
Wheeee!
I concur that Saudi Arabia is focused on the future, but it's not to forestall the Arab Spring. I suppose that's a possibility, although increasing production would decrease the price of oil which diminishes the government's ability to award patronage. Rather, their policy is predicated on impeding the development of alternative energy and, more importantly, oil in the U.S., Canada, and other states; alternative sources of oil diminishes their power. Moreover, depressed energy prices can ignite the economy which ultimately benefits oil producers. There could be a broader political aspect where they're attempting to discipline adversarial regimes. But I find the notion dubious as the benefits I previously described would also apply to their adversaries.
LOL Diablos was freaking out for nothing
PhoenixDark said:
Along with our manufacturing, GOP loses again
PantherLotus
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Don't forget our manufacturing is up largely as a response to an intentionally weakened dollar. It works.
PantherLotus
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Hey quick question to the Obama is doomed crowd (PD): which swing states are you guessing will go to Romney that will cost Obama reelection? A quick glance at 538 has him at 290ish.
Black Republican
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which of the swing states is the earliest to be called in the GE? was it Ohio?
An 18 point swing in only three days? The trajectory's clear. Wheeee!
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