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Bish needs to lawnmower is way through it.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Kook runs in the Paul family.
Combine this with the fat joke from last week and all I can think is if he runs in 2016 it'll be goddamn hilarious.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Rand Paul: I'm more coon than kook, given my fierce support for minority rights
jamesinclair
Banned
Now now, lets not get crazy.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
And it keeps getting worse:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=645983
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=645983
Yea, I went in long enough to point out Obama has no control over gas prices to someone who apparently didn't know this and just left. I dunno what happened to the OT but a lot of the threads there have been just painful over the last few weeks, especially over the last few days.
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The Autumn Wind
People realize that they can get away with drive-by posting when it's done en masse. They don't care if what they post is correct or even makes sense, so long as they get to mention how terrible Obama is.
CHEEZMO
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I feel like it's getting really really bad though. It didn't used to be this bad did it? It's like 99% of posts are drive-by's. They aren't even funny ones. I can forgive a funny drive-by, but dumb blatantly wrong ones really bug me.
EDIT: It's not only the political threads either. I feel like the whole OT is getting sucked into it.
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The Autumn Wind
I feel like this needs a thread, but it would probably just be filled with "Obama sucks" posts.
Pretty much.
It's disgusting though, if we had an actually Congress instead of a bunch of whiny man-children shit might actually get done.
Even trying the help churches, the Republicans are going "fuck you" just because it is attached to Obama.
These people...
smokeandmirrors
Banned
I always thought not reading the OP was against some kind of rule?
Oh it is, that's like rule #1.
The fact that people don't understand how government works is MIND BOGGLING.
I feel like a doctor who was concerned about low income access to hypotension treatment invented it.
The saddest part is that it isn't even all that complicated.
JesseEwiak
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Are you talking about Republicans in Congress or the people in the Romney thread? [/rimshot]
I think the most frustrating thing is arguments made by low level federal employees or policy suggestions made by one part of one agency become "ZOMG did you hear what Obama did." It's like people have no concept that 95% of what the federal government does, the lead executives have no involvement with or knowledge about.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
It's even basic things like what the three branches do and what the limits of power are.
It's frustrating.
It's frustrating.
So am I, I can't help it. It's like whack-a-mole.
BUT WE'LL END UP LIKE GREECE
smokeandmirrors
Banned
Black Mamba
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Neogaf has it easy, man. I've been in the darker woods of the Internet that is filled with young or middle of nowhere libertarians. You have no idea how many times in I've had to refute the gold bugs, the fair tax fairies, the greece gammas, 9/11 truthrs, etc. I have spent way too much time trying to explain these things to people over the years and coming to gaf almost completely ended it. I feel spoiled here. You easily get sucked into those battles.
Unlike it here. They pop up on occasion of course but its manageable. I like the the crazies and ignorant are fairly quiet here. I'm over it.
Unlike it here. They pop up on occasion of course but its manageable. I like the the crazies and ignorant are fairly quiet here. I'm over it.
True, but it has been getting worse lately.
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The Autumn Wind
Well, it was enjoyable while it lasted. The floodgates have been kicked down, it seems.
Could you treat freeloaders after this latest Chinese credit graph? Yes? Well how about this one? What does Ron Paul think about this.
Black Mamba
Member
Trust me, you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until you debate someone who bets their account that Ron Paul will win the GOP nom and presidency. Then you will stare into the abyss of pure absurdity.
Christ, I've been on other forums but never seen anything that bad.
I won't lie, I definitely did some more research and talked with an old econ professor after reading some of his stuff.
smokeandmirrors
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EV is but a Great Prophet, willing to lead all MMT'ers to the promised land of great social welfare, universal healthcare, and lack of worry over spending.
I know. You kinda forget how... diverse... people are when it comes to political threads outside of PoliGAF.
eBay Huckster
Member
I've come to the conclusion that my favourite thing to do on OT is posting DW-NOMINATE graphs in those threads and watching ConservaGAF flail around trying to spin them.
(Also, I appear to be taking over that thread with how often I'm posting)
(Also, I appear to be taking over that thread with how often I'm posting)
ClassyPenguin
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Kind of agree. Though I'm thankful people like him are there to question those sort of things.
NYCmetsfan
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I can't stand people who complain about two 'crappy choices'. Do something about it if you care. US parties aren't ideological and change all the time.
We've also been moving farther and farther away from 'both parties are the same'. We've never had more ideological distinct parties in US history. The problem is our system never expected it.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Its a way of displacing frustration by putting yourself "above it all" for many, I suspect
It's also a way to justify not engaging with the political process.
zero shift
Banned
Can somebody explain the whole "when there is a private sector surplus there is a public deficit increase" or whatever that thing is that empty vessel often pulls out.
First you have to remember that currency enters the system when the government spends money and exits the system when the government receives money in taxes.*
Given that, it's pretty simple. A private sector surplus means that people are saving money. For them to save money and pay the same amount in taxes, the government has to add more money to the system, which requires them to spend more money. Similarly, if the government cuts spending, it reduces the input of cash into the system. If it doesn't simultaneously reduce taxation, it will shrink the money supply, requiring people to reduce their savings to compensate.
* EV has an explanation of why fractional reserve lending doesn't actually add currency to the system, as a traditional macro class will tell you it does, but I don't remember it.
I understand people being frustrated with some of Obama's actions. I think buying into the deficit hysteria back in 2010/11 was stupid, I think the drone program is at the very least overused and lacks proper restraint, and I think the NSA programs are too great an invasion of privacy. However, that's like 3 issues out of a hundred. I voted for Obama and would again, despite not liking his stance on some issues, because I agree with him about 70+% of the time as opposed to nearly 0% for the Republicans. It just seems like more and more people have this black and white mentality where everything is either exactly how you want it 100%, or it's complete shit and just like everything else you don't like. There are no degrees.
It reminds me of the attitude in Gaming where if a game isn't a revolutionary masterpiece it's a piece of shit bomba.
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