aspiegamer
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Explain this statement, please. How is it sad? Why? Because overturning official results sorta sounds like massive bullshit.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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Wow, you'd think they'd understand that they need to be a Democrat to be part of the Democratic convention. On that note, here's one of them speaking for themselves:
Officerrob
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Are we pretending what happens in Nevada matters at this point?
What, you don't think the official vote's results should stand? Why?
Wow, you'd think they'd understand that they need to be a Democrat to be part of the Democratic convention. On that note, here's one of them speaking for themselves:
If this is what the issue is then Bernie's delegates are all idiots. Of course delegates need to be Democrats! They're delegates in the democratic primary!
cartoon_soldier
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Bernie Bros had No issues with same shit for the 2nd step when it favored them.
They lost Nevada. And the sooner Bernie goes back to being a Senator with no achievements the better for Democrats
Beer Monkey
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Screaming is not democracy.
Caucuses = voice votes plus an exact hour to participate = worse democracy than winner-take-all states for Republicans.
I voted for Bernie in the Ohio primary.
I fucking hate myself for it right now. Fuck Bernie and his bros. Bernie deserves nothing.
Compromise has made all the significant change in our political landscape in my country in my lifetime. Ideologues have done shit. Contrarianism has done shit. Bernie folks say "my way or the highway". If we'd subscribed to their views in the last 60 years, we'd be living in 1960s America. Ugh.
Well if you want to be understood you need to speak in complete sentences. Use a noun, verb, and whatever other parts speech you need to in order to be understood. Posts like the one you made mean all we have to go on is what you're responding to. Either take part in a conversation or don't.
Following it live right now. Sorry I'm not conforming to your post requirements. I'm sure we'll all hear about it soon enough.
Adios!
So being understood isn't a requirement of posting in here? It's more like a requirement of forming complete sentences and expressing ideas.
I believe I was told earlier today that we should be "courting" these folks instead of mocking them.
I've also seen their behavior on the floor today, and their behavior elsewhere. It's been atrocious. This is not an isolated incident.
How are we supposed to "court" them when they're screaming and frothing at the mouth?
If they can't behave like adults, I want them to go away. The vast majority of Bernie voters are sane folks who'll line-up when the time comes, but this special breed of folks who think assholish behavior at these events is acceptable or productive? They can screw-off. I'm not going to waste my time trying to court them.
I've also seen their behavior on the floor today, and their behavior elsewhere. It's been atrocious. This is not an isolated incident.
How are we supposed to "court" them when they're screaming and frothing at the mouth?
If they can't behave like adults, I want them to go away. The vast majority of Bernie voters are sane folks who'll line-up when the time comes, but this special breed of folks who think assholish behavior at these events is acceptable or productive? They can screw-off. I'm not going to waste my time trying to court them.
So you want to bring up conspiracy theories with vague statements that are backed up with no evidence and yet not have to defense or explain any of it?
Something something rules Berniebros only use when it benefits them, something something revolution, something something FBI, something something voter purge, something something low information voters.
Take your pick.
User 463088
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I'm so late to this but I got rekt during Eurovision and now somehow I'm totally sober at 2:00am bit can't sleep because my Berniebro won't sober up and STFU. Mess. Sad. Etc.
googleplex
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Amen!
Wow, you'd think they'd understand that they need to be a Democrat to be part of the Democratic convention. On that note, here's one of them speaking for themselves:
This is some of the stupidest shit I've seen in the last few weeks. We're supposed to court these morons? This is the political version of taking your ball home so no one can play, but then showing back up without your ball and expecting to join back in after the people you left behind got their own ball.
How sad!
VendettaRed07
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User 463088
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Bernie being unwilling to compromise is actually the smallest part of the overall problem. If his policies were well thought out, remotely feasible and politically viable, I wouldn't have an issue with him talking a hard line stance. Especially because he's supposedly a message candidate.
The issue I have is that his policies have seemed to become some sort of litmus test to some in the far left. Some of these voters seem to think that we're all just corrupt because we won't take the perfect, easy solution Bernie is offering. Obviously, college is too expensive. Why argue about the best way to increase funding and keep costs down? We'll just make it free! Healthcare is too expensive? Why bother with the reality of our hodgepodge system. Lets pretend we're Europe and actually planned this thing and make it free!
To me, the issue is not that the good has become the enemy of the perfect. It's the lack of political curiosity that arises from Bernie holding such rigid standards of what is corrupt and establishment.
The issue I have is that his policies have seemed to become some sort of litmus test to some in the far left. Some of these voters seem to think that we're all just corrupt because we won't take the perfect, easy solution Bernie is offering. Obviously, college is too expensive. Why argue about the best way to increase funding and keep costs down? We'll just make it free! Healthcare is too expensive? Why bother with the reality of our hodgepodge system. Lets pretend we're Europe and actually planned this thing and make it free!
To me, the issue is not that the good has become the enemy of the perfect. It's the lack of political curiosity that arises from Bernie holding such rigid standards of what is corrupt and establishment.
Wow, you'd think they'd understand that they need to be a Democrat to be part of the Democratic convention. On that note, here's one of them speaking for themselves:
Reading through that thread is giving me the heartiest cackle!!
Poodlestrike
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More likely to be robosigned.
We don't even have to court them. Let them cry and moan, let them misunderstand the entire process, and let them stew in their unmitigated bullshit for the next few months. This way when the vast majority (of those who were ever going to vote in the first place, mind you) come back with their face on the floor voting for Hillary - as always happens, every time, no matter how much Bernie supporters wish otherwise - it'll make the Schadenfreude even better. I've learned long ago that these individuals are mostly just blinded by sheer ridiculous ideology and idealism, and used all that mind space with that instead of doing things like, ya know, understanding the process or even how politics works. I've been there when I was younger too, and then I had to grow up.
I'm enjoying this, because it'll be many Bernie supporters moment to grow up when this all over.
User 463088
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Smirnoff Ice Electric Berry. All of them. Then vodka. Then some more vodka. I tried some of that red wine mixed with chocolate. Then I ordered Chinese to try and soak up the vodka.... But just ended up adding more alcohol to the mix. Then I fell asleep. And sure my weight in General Tso chicken.
If I didn't work tomorrow if make me another orange juice and marshmallow vodka. Shit is good mane.
Oh and Kyle drank some IPA or whatever. He likes beer. Sad.
And the part that is even sadder is that beyond the shiny wrapper, there is no real substance. There's this supposed adherence to these grand nation changing ideas, and when you unwrap them, it's just vapor with no real policy or realistic way to enact it.
Jack Remington
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So start drinking again.
User 463088
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Do you hate my liver?
I actually have to work tomorrow. Or I totally would. I went from shit faced to sober in like 30 seconds. Mess.
VendettaRed07
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Kyle would be right at home at my place then. IPAs galore. A safe haven of beer snobery delights for anti-establishment whole foods shoppers. Not sad, oh yas.
User 463088
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I'd probably never see him again. I go to the liquor aisle and pretty much buy the stuff that comes in pretty colors. Seriously that Electric Berry Smirnoff ice is my new Berniebro. So so so good.Kyle would be right at home at my place then. IPAs galore. A safe haven of beer snobery delights for anti-establishment whole foods shoppers. Not sad, oh yas.
He bought some blueberry ale out something. I tried it but still not a fan. I'll stick to my Smirnoff. Extra hard lemonade, and vodka in all the things. Oh and tequila. But only if I can sleep until noon.
I was also trying to order some wine on Amazon. They don't need to tell us who the certified purchasers are. The reviews from people who have had it are clear to see.
BlackClouds
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I would do a search on the white flight percentage to get some background. This isn't any news to me.
Abinash117
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Bernie didn't even care about the Obama coalition. He focused mostly on college aged people( mostly white) and the white working class individuals. If anything the future doesn't should not be focused or about these people, but the entire coalition. That doesn't mean that the Democrats should not try to maintain and get these people, they should not be an extreme focus. During my time of observing some of these people, they don't give a shit about the Democratic party or the constituents, they just want the party to be entirely about them as they think they know the real issues and everyone else will fall in line because they are right.
The issue in Nevada should be like a metaphor to how some of these people think . Not giving a damn about the party, trying to change the party without the concerns of the people within, and wanting to have the cake and eat it too by being people completely outside the party and change to suit whatever they want.
I'm fairly certain that the party would have a small amount of Bernie's ideas, quite frankly it isn't necessary a bad thing, but many of his supporters aren't going to support them still because he still didn't win and part of his aspects are being anti-establishment. I doubt they'll start supporting the establishment when they are against them and don't trust them. Why support Hillary when you already think she lies and panders? Why trust the party then?
VendettaRed07
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Blueberry ale something? bleh. Sweet beers make me vomit the morning after. I can't drink anything that has any sort of sweet berryness too it. I love bitter. The more bitter the better. I think I'd rather drink your strawberry peanutbutter mashmallow tequila vodka drinks than any fruit flavored beer.
User 463088
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He only had one of those. He keeps trying to find beer I like. So far he's not doing well. There's some beer tasting thing or something he wants to go to. I agreed to go but I won't drink anything.
I made a good cocktail with peach vodka and caffeinated peach flavored water. Added some frozen peach slices and some ginger ale. Was delicious.... And that shit was caffeinated as hell.
Also you two would get along great. He loves bitter beers and keeps telling me to learn to like them.....
NYCmetsfan
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Edit. I know I was quoted. But probably not cool on my part
NYCmetsfan
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Yeah. I probably shouldnt have posted that, if Cerium wants to edit that out it'd be cool. Posted before I thought it through.
I had Snapchated it to a friend and then thought about poligaf but the two are different
NYCmetsfan
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Thanks to whoever deleted it.
Sorry about that.
Sorry about that.
shinra-bansho
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I missed this earlier with all the Nevada nonsense, but this...
The response to Republican Party co-opted by the more polarized rightest wing should not be a Democratic Party co-opted by a more polarized left. All that leads to is no one left with the ability to actually govern based on practical and/or empirical realism.
...is a terrible idea. And his campaign has proven more that a decent amount of the American population has no idea what the word socialism entails.
The response to Republican Party co-opted by the more polarized rightest wing should not be a Democratic Party co-opted by a more polarized left. All that leads to is no one left with the ability to actually govern based on practical and/or empirical realism.
How exactly is this shown whatsoever?
I was hunting for news and finding it weird that the stoking of the flames largely comes from RealClearPolitics.
In any case, a decent summary of what went down, I suppose.
Clinton widens delegate lead at Nevada Democratic convention [Reno Gazette-Journal] [Associated Press]
In any case, a decent summary of what went down, I suppose.
Clinton widens delegate lead at Nevada Democratic convention [Reno Gazette-Journal] [Associated Press]
cartoon_soldier
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Sanders is weak anyway.
#demsindissary
This is in the WSJ today:
Clinton Looks to Avoid Fight at Convention as Sanders Presses
Looking to avoid a messy Democratic convention this summer, people close to likely nominee Hillary Clinton predict she will give Bernie Sanders much of what he wants on the partys platform. But at least for now, the Sanders forces are itching for a fight.
Hmmm
This is in the WSJ today:
Clinton Looks to Avoid Fight at Convention as Sanders Presses
Looking to avoid a messy Democratic convention this summer, people close to likely nominee Hillary Clinton predict she will give Bernie Sanders much of what he wants on the partys platform. But at least for now, the Sanders forces are itching for a fight.
Hmmm
metalslimer
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The only time party platforms get brought is when its ridiculous state party platforms. Everyone knows at this point what both parties are about, and I think Obama's second term has shown that even if an issue isn't in the party platform doesn't mean that it won't be addressed.
TheLostBigBoss
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Single Payer - Good luck
Ban fracking - Obama just passed extremely tough regulations on drilling, more strict than they were a year ago, portions of the country are based on fracking, so good luck with that and going back to coal.
Break up banks - I can see this being adopted to a degree, at least with the more tight regulation stuff
Climate Change - Clinton already on it, maybe she will try and back a carbon tax? Cap and trade?
I mean, the more I think about it, the more they really are the same on so many issues, it's just the rhetoric that is drastically different.
His platform reminds me of the Green Party platform. Same as the democrats, but bigger, stronger, faster!
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