Abinash117
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If Trump doesn't really crap himself then it is a win. He did some stupid things during the trip, but that is to expected. If it wasn't a complete PR disaster than that is good enough for the GOP.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why
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Bob Corker, Senate Foreign Relations Committee chair:
This is why I'm convinced he'll serve his full 4 years. He could expose himself to Merkel during a speech and the Republican ballwashers in the senate would applaud it or show "mild concern".
Aaron Strife
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tbf didn't Oklahoma elect a Dem governor in 06?
Not that that's like a magic bullet or anything, it doesn't excuse being asshats for the last 10+ years in every other way. I believe OK is also the only state where McCain won every county.
People wanted an unconventional president etc etc.
BlastProcessing
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@jaketapper
.@CoryBooker disagrees with the DNC: he thinks it's too soon to revoke Jared Kushner's security clearance. #CNNsotu
@yashar
Yashar Ali Retweeted Jake Tapper
Ivanka and Jared hosted two fundraisers for Cory Booker and they all maxed out to his campaign.Yashar Ali added,
Fuck you very much Cory.
.@CoryBooker disagrees with the DNC: he thinks it's too soon to revoke Jared Kushner's security clearance. #CNNsotu
@yashar
Yashar Ali Retweeted Jake Tapper
Ivanka and Jared hosted two fundraisers for Cory Booker and they all maxed out to his campaign.Yashar Ali added,
Fuck you very much Cory.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Never again do I want to hear about Booker being on the 2020 ticket. Not after this.
To be clear, I saw the interview. He didn't quite put it like that.
He gave a non-answer, so I guess by not specifying exact agreement you could take it to mean what the tweet says.
BlastProcessing
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Spoiled Milk
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Maxing out individual contributions from two people isn't even enough to cover my alcoholism, let alone influence a SENATOR of the United States
BlastProcessing
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Did you miss the part about hosting the high dollar fundraisers?
To be fair, they hosted fundraisers for him, so they facilitated much greater amounts of contributions than their individual ones.
ArkhamFantasy
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I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he's trying to present himself as a moderate democrat, dispelling the notion that all democrats want to go after Trumps administration for partisan reasons.
BlastProcessing
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If he wants to waffle his way down the Trump apologist path he can try, but I don't think he's going to have much luck with that.
jack_package_200
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If he had presidential aspirations, they are now dead.
Spoiled Milk
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Oh, shit, good point. They got around $40,000 for him when he was still mayor, during his senate run. Guess what they say about Booker being a politician for the fatcats is true.
Box of Kittens
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Honestly, I was already opposed to a Booker nomination.
Bonen no Max'd
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Murphy, Paul, and Franken are trying to block the Saudi arms sales, which is very cool but is probably doomed like it was last year. They did get Heller, Lee, and Kirk on right now, so there's theoretically enough willing Republican votes to block it but about half the Democrats voted for it and I can't imagine it'll happen.
I don't think Murphy would be a strong candidate for electability purposes but he might actually edge out Brown in terms of who I'd like the most.
Trying to parse a common denominator between who voted to block is kind of impossible. Most of the left side of the caucus voted against it, but Brown, Merkley, and Whitehouse voted for it, but then some of the Dems that joined with them in voting against it include Tester and Klobuchar.
I don't think Murphy would be a strong candidate for electability purposes but he might actually edge out Brown in terms of who I'd like the most.
Trying to parse a common denominator between who voted to block is kind of impossible. Most of the left side of the caucus voted against it, but Brown, Merkley, and Whitehouse voted for it, but then some of the Dems that joined with them in voting against it include Tester and Klobuchar.
ArkhamFantasy
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I just want someone that can win. I'm not picky anymore.
Corey Booker only caring about donations and money is the least surprising thing on earth. He's a trash politician, always has been.
Dubbedinenglish
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You'd think he be smarter than this. Working with the Trump's is a scarlet letter. Can't be forgotten
Poodlestrike
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I still say Booker gets judged overharshly, but yeah he's still not great. Especially compared to the rest of the field we've got.
BlastProcessing
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I think he figures he can make it all right with one of his big patented rousing but completely devoid of content speeches.
TestOfTide
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This is why I always hate the idea of running a nominee from New Jersey.
Box of Kittens
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Yeah, and this would be a concern from an electability standpoint as well. Of course, Illinois is also notorious for how shady its politics get and Obama managed to stay squeaky clean. That having been said, I've heard a lot about Booker being more typical of NJ in terms of corruption and whatnot compared to Obama and IL. I guess my thoughts are that in an election that Booker can win, there's probably a more reliably left candidate who can also win.
Any reasonable person who had paid attention to him for the past year or two should have been already.
Obama springboarded up and out quickly enough to not get touched.
The Technomancer
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I don't...think I've ever been enthusiastic about Booker
Cesare Borgia
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No one is going to give a shit about this in a week. He'll be more than fine. I dislike Booker but I feel pretty confident that he'll do well in the primaries.
Bonen no Max'd
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Seemed like before the election people were holding him up until the election to me. I seem to remember talk about how the 2024 primary would end up as Booker vs Kaine, unless I'm just imagining it. Hillary losing seems to have taken most of the wind out of his sails though.
RastaMentality
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Booker is gonna get the minority support that other candidates will struggle to take from him. beyond that, i'm not sure.
Chained Prometheus
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Yeah, Booker's speech at the DNC Convention last year sparked a brief moment where there was a lot of talk for a little while about the idea of him running for President after Hillary.
Definitely a bit worried about what sort of a wrench Booker might end up throwing in the 2020 Democratic Primary if he chooses to run.
BlastProcessing
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He will raise a bunch of cash and not make it past the second month.
A thought experiment I'm reluctantly having: Booker sweeps the black vote in the primaries, gets enough traction to be taken seriously as a potential nominee, then eventually loses to someone who's, well, white. Could Booker's loss in this scenario depress the nationwide black vote in November the same way Bernie's loss disillusioned some voters in 2016?
Why are people assuming the "black vote" is a monolith when
a) we will have at least 2 high-profile black candidates
b) Cory Booker is not Barack Obama
We are going to have a lot of candidates running and assuming that any of them will have a demographic lock is really silly. In '08 Hillary/Obama were splitting minority votes pretty hard. In '16 Hillary got them because Bernie never learned how to reach out to them!
I'm trying not to. And I fully expect Kamala Harris to be right up there with him. But given that in the 2016 election, "black Americans showed the sharpest decline in voter turnout– 7.1 percent since 2012," I don't think Democrats can afford for black turnout to drop any further.
Regardless, I know it's way too early for this sort of thing.
TestOfTide
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Not necessarily. The people who are gonna get the minority support are the people who actually address their issues during the primaries. Hillary failed to do so in 2008 Primaries but was great at doing so in the 2016 primaries. If Booker just ASSUMES he has minority support, someone like Gillibrand could easily flank him by giving speeches that actually address people's concerns.
Plus, Booker will get hit hard for his Newark failures, which can EASILY be framed as him failing the minority community.
Harris, meanwhile can run on the Police Reform message Hillary ran on in the 2016, but the difference is that Hillary was the wrong person to run on that because of her past support of tough on crime laws, whereas Harris's History as San Fran's DA and Cali's AG actually help her as a messenger for such a platform.
What is it with NJ politicians? Red or blue, they seem to be complete scum.
Also laptops are about to be banned on all flights. Good times. Glad I don't need to travel a lot for work!
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thepotatoman
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The one thing Booker is great at is criminal justice. He's the only really pushing that issue and has clearly given it a lot of thought.
That probably will resonate with minorities a lot more than everyone else.
Spoiled Milk
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New Jersey is basically Russia.
Brad Henry won a plurality in 02. Reelected in 06. Benefited greatly from this in 02: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_gubernatorial_election,_2002
He had a D legislature for his first year although I assume it was significantly conservative like the rest of the South's D's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_Oklahoma
I suspect like in KS if D's win the governorship in 18' they will have to fight tooth and nail with an R legislature to raise taxes to fix their mess. KS moderates seem tired of Brownback so they might help a D out but OK I'm not sure if there are moderates in the OK legislature(if any) with the stomach to raise taxes.
Bam Bam Baklava
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"Liberals think they are tolerant, but often, they aren't," argues @FareedZakaria
Spoiled Milk
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there is an extreme culture of intellectual suppression on the left that (sometimes) rivals that of the right.
Ok I laughed
"Twitter has regrettably learned that Fareed Zakaria plagiarized this tweet."
BlastProcessing
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Fareed Zakaria just became the President.
Did we ever talk about the fact that this dude even plagiarizes his embarrassing statements?
As someone from NJ, I would almost never trust a NJ Dem running for pres.
RastaMentality
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Booker isn't gonna just hop in without pushing on black issues hard. It's inevitable and which is why I say either he or Harris will shore up minority votes without much difficulty. Unless they're just shrouded with scandals.
Black voters aren't a monolith but it's definitely gonna depress turnout when white male politician ends up winning in the end (on the backs of white voters) unless they have their shit together.
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