Senators in the GOP won't vote on this the way it is. Then the House won't vote in what comes out of the Senate.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why
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VendettaRed07
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How is the person running against Ossoff voting
cartoon_soldier
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There is no way Trump would be elected President either.
Poodlestrike
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Well, she hasn't been elected to anything yet, so I guess absent?
Yeah tons lose insurance AND premiums go up in the short term, there's no tangible wins to take back except to say "repeal and replace" happened. And saying "the DEFICIT goes down not many billions" isn't going to cure all that. I mean I guess it could pass because, you know, Republicans at this point. But I mean it seems pretty cray-cray if it does.
VendettaRed07
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I see no reason to be optimistic at all.
Still think they'll manage to get it done. Moderate GOPers are going to fold
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
This bill is about as well planned as Fyre was.
Trump being elected was always a possibility. Explain how this bill as is would pass the Senate in a way that the House votes yes on it.
This is a bad meme. You should give it up.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is ludicrous. Worse health care is going to turn people against them.
and yet
Got the Shakes
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The raging hard on the GOP gets from screwing poor people and the sick will never cease to amaze me.
ShadowSwordmaster
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And there is no way that I won't blow my brains out because of all this BS this year.
cartoon_soldier
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Why? People were fine with these GOP people when they were just straight out repealing Obamacare.
Nah man, look look look, they're gonna keep the ACA intact, and just replace the Obamacare parts with AHCA parts. What's the problem?
Carpe Libertatem
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Because they're actually going to feel it in their pocketbook.
Them drinking beer and celebrating this bill is going to make for some amazing commercials in 2018.
VendettaRed07
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And they are thinking "turn them to who".
They have the gerrymandering in their favor. The senate map for Dems is brutal. And the Democratic Party has yet to show in any way they can contest and win rural voters in numbers that should make them sweat
I see no reason to not just go through with it. They are damned if they do damned if they don't. So might as well do it.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Veritigo_X
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Paul Ryan getting cheap beer to take him back to his college days when he first dreamed about screwing over poor people?
Poodlestrike
Banned
The reason "optics" doesn't hurt the GOP is because nobody in th GOP gives a fuck about "optics." The reason our guys get hurt by "optics" is because we do.
So they can get away with this shit forever but God forbid anyone left of Hitler does anything that even looks like it might be bad.
So they can get away with this shit forever but God forbid anyone left of Hitler does anything that even looks like it might be bad.
Haha, you have a majority in all branches! You're fucking Apollo not Rocky -- Apollo is pretty dope though, so this is still a bad analogy by me. Drago and Clubber are cool, too, so maybe they're Thunderlips.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Optics will hurt with the Obama turned Trump voter.
broz0rs
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Let's not get so comfortable with the "this won't pass the Senate" rhetoric. To me, this is like saying don't worry about Trump winning the GOP nod, he'll never beat Clinton.
I'm still just mindfucked how moderate GOP can fall in line with a bill that is probably worse than the previous one considering it's taking away essential health benefits, and adding a pittance amount ($8 billion over 5 years) towards pre-existing conditions can sway so many of them.
I'm still just mindfucked how moderate GOP can fall in line with a bill that is probably worse than the previous one considering it's taking away essential health benefits, and adding a pittance amount ($8 billion over 5 years) towards pre-existing conditions can sway so many of them.
SomewhatGroovy
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What is the GOP mindset behind taking away medicaid? why is that money so important to them? what would they use it for instead?
Want a serious answer not riddled with "lol bc fuck the poor".
Like, in their view, how is this a moral right to them?
Want a serious answer not riddled with "lol bc fuck the poor".
Like, in their view, how is this a moral right to them?
Poodlestrike
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I'll believe it when I see it.
Priority number one needs to be outlawing Republicanism. Get on it, wonks!
Senators represent an entire state while a Congress represents only a district. The consequences are far larger for Senators if they knowingly vote for something as toxic for their state than a congressman.
benicillin
Banned
Because they aren't voting on a bill that is going to get past the senate, they're kicking the can down the road because they don't want to be the ones who couldn't even try to pass any legislation when they control all three branches of the government. This isn't over yet, and their premature keg party is gonna look really fucking dumb when the CBO scores come out and people actually see what's in this bill.
Poodlestrike
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Serious answer: lol BC fuck tha poor.
That's IT. That's all there is. They have no higher ambitions than robbing poor people of services to further enrich the wealthy, except MAYBE turning women into breeding stock and putting all non-whites into camps.
I think there's a difference between getting comfortable and jumping to "game over man" is all. There's some nuance there in terms of you can't ever give up being rational on some level as an outsider looking at this rather than just jumping to straight panic, otherwise you're just falling into traps those on the other side could as well etc. Be vigilant, know your reps, contact people, do the work, but don't just give up or say what's the point or it's all over.
A Serious Man
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Paul Ryan literally hates poor people. He thinks they're leeches holding down the wealthy and successful. And the HFC basically wants no government at all. That's the answer
IggyChooChoo
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Tax cuts. And "fuck the poor" is deadly serious, I'm afraid.
Carpe Libertatem
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i dunno, the message sent by literally throwing a party and celebrating after voting to take away health insurance from millions of people is pretty clear
VendettaRed07
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And what states despite this are going to flip dem in the near future if they push this through
Are Dems seriously going to manage winning a senate race in Texas? I doubt it
Republicans are still far better at winning in "blue" areas than Democrats are at winning in "red" ones
Emerson
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This is something you'd say if the only elections you're aware of are the last handful, in which a Democrat was president.
If you look at the larger context of history you will understand it is the case in the vast majority of instances that midterms swing against the sitting president to some extent, contingent on how popular/unpopular he was.
Carpe Libertatem
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in 2008, obama won wisconsin by more than trump won texas in 2016
ask russ feingold how things worked out for him
cartoon_soldier
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By having the WH party and press conference, GOP already ensuring that media coverage today will be on their terms.
No idea what if anything have Dems got lined up.
No idea what if anything have Dems got lined up.
Go take a nice warm bath mate. This isn't good for you at this point.
I'm sure THE RESISTANCE will get right on making dank memes about the shitty beer the Republicans are going to drink.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
I'm so angry right now :/ How the fuck did we end up here?
Vote is happening
Vote is happening
cartoon_soldier
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I wish CBO score would drop like tomorrow or Saturday. Not next week.
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