Most of his base now get their news from Fox (and the more modern ones from Reddit, Breitbart, and Wikileaks). The problem is they're going to spin anything they can and not report on certain things.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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Most of his base now get their news from Fox (and the more modern ones from Reddit, Breitbart, and Wikileaks). The problem is they're going to spin anything they can and not report on certain things.
Roland_Gunner
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Oppoium incoming
Given this mornings outburst, this feels like a big one.
BoogieWoogie
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When the fuck are Murdoch's kids taking over Fox News to put a stop to this state run bullshit?
I feel like this will be a big one ESPECIALLY because of Trump's Twitter outburst.
Oppoium incoming
I feel like this will be a big one ESPECIALLY because of Trump's Twitter outburst.
balladofwindfishes
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I really hope any huge Russian story doesn't take away from the CBO report coming today or tomorrow
Oppoium incoming
I find these teases profoundly fucking stupid.
When the fuck are Murdoch's kids taking over Fox News to put a stop to this state run bullshit?
Has there been any indication they would? I haven't heard anything.
excelsiorlef
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I find these teases profoundly fucking stupid.
Yep
BoogieWoogie
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Has there been any indication they would? I haven't heard anything.
I mean, its basically why O'Reilly got shitcanned.
I mean, its basically why O'Reilly got shitcanned.
That mainly happened due to advertisers dropping out though because of the sexual harassment settlements. Not because of news reporting.
skullmuffins
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o'reilly got the boot because he's a serial sexual harasser and those settlements + advertisers dropping out cost a lot of $$$$. sucking up to republicans was never the issue.I mean, its basically why O'Reilly got shitcanned.
BoogieWoogie
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That mainly happened due to advertisers dropping out though because of the sexual harassment settlements. Not because of news reporting.
I thought it was also related to the kids attempting to buy Sky.
skullmuffins
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hmmmmmBenjamin Wittes @benjaminwittes
3 things:
1) Not all ticks are related to Comey.
2) Fuse length remains uncertain.
3) Interesting preemptive defense of collusion happening.
Funkyhamster
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hmmmmm
Is there any other way to read this than as Wittes saying the story will be about evidence of collusion?
Greigor The Fellhand
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I just hope whatever he is tick tick ticking about drops soon. =/
TumblingHippo
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Oh what a shock Gorsuch has an actual case now that shows he'll rule towards anti-LGBT sides :c
Guess while the ruling is still pro-LGBT, it sends a mixed message and feels like it's gonna get worse. Also THIS is why people are scared when rumors of a SCOTUS retirement swirl around.
Guess while the ruling is still pro-LGBT, it sends a mixed message and feels like it's gonna get worse. Also THIS is why people are scared when rumors of a SCOTUS retirement swirl around.
Wonder if Roberts will go centrist if Kennedy retires next year. He's the only one I could maybe see doing it. If the court becomes strictly conservative, we're fucked for a generation.
Some key SCOTUS decisions coming out today. They ruled with the Missouri church for example over the playground funding dispute, that one might have reverberations we won't feel till later.
Yep that's one question definitively answered.
Some key SCOTUS decisions coming out today. They ruled with the Missouri church for example over the playground funding dispute, that one might have reverberations we won't feel till later.
Oh what a shock Gorsuch has an actual case now that shows he'll rule towards anti-LGBT sides :c
Guess while the ruling is still pro-LGBT, it sends a mixed message and feels like it's gonna get worse. Also THIS is why people are scared when rumors of a SCOTUS retirement swirl around.
Yep that's one question definitively answered.
Box of Kittens
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This is the one that really baffles me. Republicans won two close elections where narrow losses would have cost them the election and moderate leads in the senate but they were the permanent majority? At least in 2009 the Republicans really were battered everywhere.
I argued against the idea at the time with both conservatives and liberals. To me it seemed clear that Bush being narrowly re-elected with modest coattails did not suggest an unwinnable environment for Democrats, especially as Bush's post-9/11 popularity boost continued to fade.
Arguments I got in response tended towards Karl Rove being a once-in-a-lifetime political genius with a plan for an enduring Republican majority, or how Fox News had completely changed the game.
The media seemed all too eager to fall in line behind the narrative. The debate in those circles seemed to be whether the Democrats would be out of power for a generation or cease to exist as a party altogether. There was a suggestion that liberals needed to pin their hopes on moderate Republicans and get behind John McCain.
nature boy
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SCOTUSblog‏Verified account @SCOTUSblog 4m4 minutes ago
SCOTUS will review the travel ban
SCOTUSblog‏Verified account @SCOTUSblog 3m3 minutes ago
SCOTUS lifts injunction against travel ban, except with respect to individuals with bona dude relationship to the US
SCOTUSblog‏Verified account @SCOTUSblog 5m5 minutes ago
Travel ban will be argued in October
Oh boy
Oh what a shock Gorsuch has an actual case now that shows he'll rule towards anti-LGBT sides :c
Guess while the ruling is still pro-LGBT, it sends a mixed message and feels like it's gonna get worse. Also THIS is why people are scared when rumors of a SCOTUS retirement swirl around.
You only had to see his hearing to see what a douche the guy is.
BoogieWoogie
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Oh boy
Is this good or bad? I honestly couldn't see them passing this shit but nothing surprises me anymore in this hellhole of a timeline.
Who knows? But it did get struck down twice unanimously in the court of appeals and that's not lost on the justices.Is this good or bad? I honestly couldn't see them passing this shit but nothing surprises me anymore in this hellhole of a timeline.
balladofwindfishes
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So the travel ban is back now until they rule on it next year?
nature boy
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Is this good or bad? I honestly couldn't see them passing this shit but nothing surprises me anymore in this hellhole of a timeline.
I edited the post with more info
So the travel ban is back now until they rule on it next year?
Sounds like this year, but yes?
Oh boy
This will truly be a test of our constitution. Are the branches truly co-equal? Ever since Chevron, courts have ceded way too much power to the Executive. If they rule in favor of this, what happens when some president 50 years from now decides to ban an entire continent or something?
Plinko
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The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP
BREAKING: Supreme Court will review Trump travel ban, allows it to take effect in most instances.
Looks like it is back in effect.
Macho Madness
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So the travel ban is back now until they rule on it next year?
Injunction lifted except for those with connections to the US. So, those with papers will be safe. But visitors will be banned from the countries it effects.
Ruling likely this fall.
Today was a bad day on the court all around, except for the AR birth certificate ruling.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Looks like Trump won this.
Macho Madness
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Looks like Trump won this.
No, this doesn't mean they'll rule one way or another.
Looks like it is back in effect.
What's the point. I believe it had a 6 month expiry date right? Where is the extreme vetting? What have they been working on all this time? Sigh.
balladofwindfishes
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Confirmed (again) that Kennedy isn't retiring. It wasn't announced today. It's basically the last time he'd announce if he was retiring.
benicillin
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Well, waiting for that ruling is going to be rough.
Macho Madness
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This month has been brutal.
L after L after L.
It's going to get worse if/when they pass their healthcare bill. And it won't end there, either. If they get away with this draconian healthcare bill, they're coming for the rest of the safety net too.
What's the point. I believe it had a 6 month expiry date right? Where is the extreme vetting? What have they been working on all this time? Sigh.
I think certain countries were banned without exception while others would have undergone a 90 day review.
Pandora012
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What's the point. I believe it had a 6 month expiry date right? Where is the extreme vetting? What have they been working on all this time? Sigh.
He has to ban people before he can fix anything. Don't ya know how this stuff works?
ShadowSwordmaster
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It's back to being implemented even after all that just happened.No, this doesn't mean they'll rule one way or another.
It's going to get worse if/when they pass their healthcare bill. And it won't end there, either. If they get away with this draconian healthcare bill, they're coming for the rest of the safety net too.
There's nothing the Dems could have done. But they're going to have to be better and do more.
benicillin
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It's back to being implemented even after all that just happened.
I mean no it's not fully implemented, students / employees / people with living relatives / etc are all allowed.
I think certain countries were banned without exception while others would have undergone a 90 day review.
I think that was only Syria, which was softened for refugees, this was the 2nd EO which was not as harsh as the first.
ShadowSwordmaster
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That seems better.I mean no it's not fully implemented, students / employees / people with living relatives / etc are all allowed.
balladofwindfishes
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Apparently the lower courts can continue to block it? That's what the OT thread seems to imply.
benicillin
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Apparently the lower courts can continue to block it? That's what the OT thread seems to imply.
The OT thread (and people in general) have no idea what's going on right now.
Supreme Court effectively reinstates Trump's travel ban unless you have a relative inside the U.S. or other special circumstances, that second part needs to be clarified though it's sorta broad.
Also
https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/879348983969320964
jfc
Also
https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/879348983969320964
Betsy Woodruff (@woodruffbets)
DHS spox told reporters a few weeks ago that they did not have a plan in place to start enforcing the travel ban
jfc
Roland_Gunner
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The #MuslimBan does not apply to individuals who have a relative in the US (spouse, fiancé), nor does it apply to students in the US.
These are some fairly broad exceptions.
Supreme Court effectively reinstates Trump's travel ban unless you have a relative inside the U.S. or other special circumstances, that second part needs to be clarified though it's sorta broad.
Also
https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/879348983969320964
jfc
These are some fairly broad exceptions.
Expected. DHS and USCIS are slammed right now. There is no additional funding for them either. I really feel for some of the regular employees. The extreme vetting Trump wanted will be hampered because these guys are overworked.
benicillin
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So basically exactly what the NYT said could happen at the beginning of June.
What is the Supreme Court likely to do?
The court will probably agree to hear the appeal. When a major presidential initiative is ruled unconstitutional by a federal appeals court, a review by the Supreme Court almost always follows.
The stay applications present harder questions, and how the court answers them will have important practical consequences.
The court typically moves quickly on requests for stays, often acting in about a week. Under its usual practices, it would not hear arguments on the applications and would issue brief orders announcing the outcome with little or no legal reasoning.
If the court grants the requests, the travel ban will go back into effect and probably expire before the court hears arguments on the merits of the appeal. That could make the case moot.
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