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Just a reminder: there's a chance Kennedy announces his retirement on Monday, paving the way for the end of Roe.

Great....

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

What else can go wrong now.

 

[benicillin]

Great....

Didn't someone already say that them taking that other case shows he's not announcing anything this year.

 

[Pryce]

If they're going to go after Roe, they'd go after the ruling on gay marriage, right?

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Didn't someone already say that them taking that other case shows he's not announcing anything this year.

That was the consensus when that case was announced, yes

 

[whyamihere]

Great....

There's like, absolutely no real chatter about this. Especially with the gerrymandering case coming up. I don't what Chris is talking about.

Also, Trump has given Kennedy ample reason not to retire.

 

[Owzers]

Where does that leave Rand?

If he votes no trump will make fun of his hair.

 

[Blader]

Great....

"Just a reminder" is a strange way to introduce a piece of information that nobody has been talking about at all.

 

[Plinko]

The good news about this plan is that it will do absolutely nothing to stop the astronomical rise of premiums. If anything, they'll rise even faster.

Democrats can hammer that home.

 

[Box of Kittens]

And it's not like anybody could do anything about it if Kennedy did retire, so it just feels like a tweet for the purposes of being a dick.

 

[B-Dubs]

Great....

This is the first I've heard any chatter about this. The Court just took on a ton of cases, some of which were picked out specifically for him.

 

[PBY]

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

GAH

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

I don't know where the Kennedy rumor is coming from but this is actually an area where I see the moderate sentate Rs stopping Trump if he'd appoint a Justice that would overturn Roe V Wade. Collins, Murkowski, and Moore Capito wouldn't vote for a a Justice that would be the swing vote to overturn it, I don't think.

 

[Pryce]

"substantial improvement" better be a buy in at the minimum.

 

[PBY]

I don't know where the Kennedy rumor is coming from but this is actually an area where I see the moderate sentate Rs stopping Trump if he'd appoint a Justice that would overturn Roe V Wade. Collins, Murkowski, and Moore Capito wouldn't vote for a a Justice that would be the swing vote to overturn it, I don't think.

And you'd be wrong.

 

[kirblar]

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

GAH

It's going to pass, no matter what they do.

The Dems will not run on Single Payer as a collective because large portions of their base will reject it.

 

[Futurevoid]

No party ever writes bills before they win. Ever. It's a bad play. You write "Medicare for All" on some copy paper and then stick it on top of a stack of blank pages, then run for office while waving the prop around. You could even set it down and angrily tap on it. It's super versatile.

If anyone asks you how you make it happen, you tell them Step 1 is getting elected.

The GOP in 2009 disagrees.

https://paulryan.house.gov/uploadedfiles/pcasummary2p.pdf

Certainly not a bill (and I'll cede that point) but its also far from a pretty title sitting on stack of blank papers. It was certainly crying out for "Step 1 ELECT US!" and in 2010 and beyond it worked. Years later, its the very basis for the House bill that recently passed and the Senate bill we're seeing now even if substantial changes were made to accommodate the various factions within the party.

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

GAH

It's what they should run on what I've been arguing. I'm sure others will disagree but a public option in the ACA is exactly the right place to start.

 

[whyamihere]

The Kennedy "rumor" is coming from the fact that he's having his reunion thing on Monday, right? But like, based on the cases, his hires, and most court watchers, his retirement seems unlikely.

 

[PBY]

It's going to pass, no matter what they do.

The Dems will not run on Single Payer as a collective because large portions of their base will reject it.

I hate this party so much sometimes, fuck.

 

[Blader]

I don't know where the Kennedy rumor is coming from but this is actually an area where I see the moderate sentate Rs stopping Trump if he'd appoint a Justice that would overturn Roe V Wade. Collins, Murkowski, and Moore Capito wouldn't vote for a a Justice that would be the swing vote to overturn it, I don't think.

Collins and Murkowski have voted to confirm three pro-life justices already.

 

[metalslimer]

To be honest I don't know if Roe would ever be ocmpletely repealed. TRAP laws would come up in every single red state effectively ending it anyway though.

I hate this party so much sometimes, fuck.

Blame people in general.

 

[Plinko]

I don't know where the Kennedy rumor is coming from but this is actually an area where I see the moderate sentate Rs stopping Trump if he'd appoint a Justice that would overturn Roe V Wade. Collins, Murkowski, and Moore Capito wouldn't vote for a a Justice that would be the swing vote to overturn it, I don't think.

LOL at having any faith in republicans to do anything but fall in line. The AHCA has a 16% approval rating and they are ramming it through.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

And it's not like anybody could do anything about it if Kennedy did retire, so it just feels like a tweet for the purposes of being a dick.

Liberals on Twitter love to panic about everything

 

[whyamihere]

The ACA with substantial improvements isn't good enough imo.

 

[nature boy]

Well the rumours have been that a SC justice would retire in the summer. Grassley confirmed that a couple of months ago.

IDK, I'm guessing Hayes knows more than we do.

 

[Plinko]

The ACA with substantial improvements isn't good enough imo.

And it's a terrible path to take for an election cycle.

 

[whyamihere]

Well the rumours have been that a SC justice would retire in the summer. Grassley confirmed that a couple of months ago.

IDK, I'm guessing Hayes knows more than we do.

There are a lot of rumors.

And court watchers generally would know more than Hayes, and they all seem to be as puzzled by this as anyone else.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Well the rumours have been that a SC justice would retire in the summer. Grassley confirmed that a couple of months ago.

IDK, I'm guessing Hayes knows more than we do.

"Confirmed" or just fan fiction to drum up excitement

Because other than some minor rumblings a few months ago, there's been nothing on Kennedy retiring. And considering the cases coming up, it would be really weird, since a couple are basically his cases.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

Collins and Murkowski have voted to confirm three pro-life justices already.

Sure, but they voted to confirm pro-life justices that would not have the power to overturn Roe V Wade.

Plenty of Democrats with perfect pro-choice records voted for pro-life justices in the past too, I doubt they would be as interested in doing so if it meant the end of Roe v Wade.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

There's like, absolutely no real chatter about this. Especially with the gerrymandering case coming up. I don't what Chris is talking about.

Also, Trump has given Kennedy ample reason not to retire.

Then again, he's 80. Health could dictate what happens for him.

 

[kirblar]

I hate this party so much sometimes, fuck.

The horror of a public option that could become de facto single payer over time if insurers keep pulling out of markets!

They will not let it die a second time.

 

[Blader]

It's actually Gorsuch retiring. He's had enough.

Sure, but they voted to confirm pro-life justices that would not have the power to overturn Roe V Wade.

Plenty of Democrats with perfect pro-choice records voted for pro-life justices in the past too, I doubt they would be as interested in doing so if it meant the end of Roe v Wade.

When in doubt, do not trust Senate Republicans for a goddamn thing.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

If they're going to go after Roe, they'd go after the ruling on gay marriage, right?

I would say that can has been thoroughly kicked into "safe" territory, now. Trump said he doesn't care about it, so Republicans will fall in line.

What may be game, however, are SCOTUS validations of "religious freedom to discriminate" laws.

 

[metalslimer]

Kennedy also doesn't want his lgbt rights decisions overturned,

 

[Plinko]

I don't think some people fully understand that literally the only chance democrats may have over the next few years lies in the hands of Director Mueller.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

He also has to be just a bit concerned about the Russian stuff

 

[whyamihere]

Then again, he's 80. Health could dictate what happens for him.

He just voted to grant cert to a ton of cases that are right up his alley. He's probably not going anywhere.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

It's actually Gorsuch retiring. He's had enough.



When in doubt, do not trust Senate Republicans for a goddamn thing.

I've been saying that AHCA would pass ever since it got through the House while people were saying that the senate would for sure kill it, I just think the pro-choice women would have the needed leverage here. I don't think being pro-life is a necessary strategy in WV or AK and it certainly is a bad one in ME.

 

[Kusagari]

Are we certain Roberts would actually 100% kill Roe?

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Roughly 10 years ago
Kennedy: "Hey guys, I can't agree with this case right now, but if you come back with a better lower court ruling, I might go along with it"
Lawyers: "k"
10 years later
Lawyers: "Hey, we got that case you wanted"
Kennedy: "Oh sweet, hey Roberts, can we hear this case? I really want to"
Roberts: "k"
2 weeks later
Kennedy: "jk I was retiring, cya losers"

 

[Plinko]

I'm still convinced republicans don't ever want Roe completely eliminated.

 

[Hindl]

I'm still convinced republicans don't ever want Roe completely eliminated.

It gives them an enemy to rally the base with

 

[jtb]

I'm still convinced republicans don't ever want Roe completely eliminated.

Yup. It's the only thing holding the party base together, at this point.

 

[whyamihere]

Big get for Dems: Clark County Commissioner Steve Sisolak is IN for Nevada governor.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/ar...y-politician-set-to-announce-bid-for-governor

Democrat Steve Sisolak, who chairs the powerful Clark County Commission that oversees the Las Vegas Strip and a budget that rivals that of the state, is officially declaring his candidacy for Nevada governor on Thursday, sources told The Nevada Independent.

The outspoken Sisolak, 63, has long been expected to try replacing popular termed-out Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval. He will be the first major candidate to formally announce a gubernatorial bid, although Republican Attorney General Adam Laxalt has been conspicuously amassing campaign cash and is expected to jump in.

A big personality on the board, Sisolak was a key figure on the panel that laid the groundwork for luring the Oakland Raiders to Las Vegas with a $750 million hotel tax contribution. He has continued working with team officials as they hammer out details with the county before construction of the planned $1.9 billion stadium begins.

His commission district covers parts of the central, southwest and southern Las Vegas Valley. Prior to his nearly 10 years on the commission, Sisolak served for a decade on the Board of Regents, which oversees the Nevada System of Higher Education.

A Democrat who is seen as cozier than most with businesses, Sisolak has been a partner in two telemarketing companies — American Distributing and Associated Industries. He touts his business background on his official biography, highlighting his work extracting concessions from firefighters during contract negotiations, combating abuse of sick leave and identifying millions of dollars in cost savings for the county.

One of the more contentious issues the commission faced in recent years was the so-called More Cops sales tax increase geared toward bolstering the police force. Sisolak at first strongly opposed raising the sales tax, but he ultimately supported the plan that grew out of meetings of the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee, the panel that worked on the stadium deal.

His lengthy tenure in the public eye and mixed voting record could be a political liability in the race. Liberals were fiercely against applying public funding to the football stadium, for one.

Always coy when asked about his gubernatorial intentions, the clue lay in his fundraising efforts. He raised more than $1.5 million last year and had nearly $3.8 million on hand despite not having a serious foe, according to his campaign finance reports.

While Democrats control both houses of the Legislature, they have historically fared poorly in governor’s races in Nevada. The last time the state had a Democratic governor was Bob Miller, who served until 1999, and the state Democratic Party failed to field a serious candidate against moderate Republican Sandoval before he scored a blowout victory in his 2014 re-election bid.

If Sisolak reaches the general election, he could face as-yet unannounced candidate Laxalt, a conservative up-and-coming former Navy JAG who has backing from the likes of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and whose grandfather, former Sen. Paul Laxalt, is legendary in Nevada politics.

Others who have their eye on the seat include Democrat Steve Cloobeck, the wealthy former CEO of a timeshare company called Diamond Resorts who endorsed Republican Sen. Dean Heller for re-election, and Jared Fisher, a bike shop owner and Republican political newcomer. Sisolak’s commission colleague and fellow Democrat Chris Giunchigliani has said she is mulling a bid after receiving encouragement from activists. State Treasurer Dan Schwartz, a Republican, also is said to be interested.

Raised in Wisconsin, Sisolak earned a bachelor’s degree in business from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee before moving to Las Vegas in 1976 and earning a master’s in business administration from UNLV. He is a devout Catholic and has two daughters who also attended UNLV.

 

[kirblar]

Big get for Dems: Clark County Commissioner Steve Sisolak is IN for Nevada governor.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/ar...y-politician-set-to-announce-bid-for-governor

He sounds like exactly the person you'd want challenging for a seat that's been heavily red for almost 2 decades.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I wonder what Sandoval will end up doing now

A Senate run? Hope for the Supreme Court?

 

[whyamihere]

Obama goes in on the Senate healthcare bill.

https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10154996557026749

Our politics are divided. They have been for a long time. And while I know that division makes it difficult to listen to Americans with whom we disagree, that’s what we need to do today.

I recognize that repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act has become a core tenet of the Republican Party. Still, I hope that our Senators, many of whom I know well, step back and measure what’s really at stake, and consider that the rationale for action, on health care or any other issue, must be something more than simply undoing something that Democrats did.

We didn’t fight for the Affordable Care Act for more than a year in the public square for any personal or political gain – we fought for it because we knew it would save lives, prevent financial misery, and ultimately set this country we love on a better, healthier course.

Nor did we fight for it alone. Thousands upon thousands of Americans, including Republicans, threw themselves into that collective effort, not for political reasons, but for intensely personal ones – a sick child, a parent lost to cancer, the memory of medical bills that threatened to derail their dreams.

And you made a difference. For the first time, more than ninety percent of Americans know the security of health insurance. Health care costs, while still rising, have been rising at the slowest pace in fifty years. Women can’t be charged more for their insurance, young adults can stay on their parents’ plan until they turn 26, contraceptive care and preventive care are now free. Paying more, or being denied insurance altogether due to a preexisting condition – we made that a thing of the past.

We did these things together. So many of you made that change possible.

At the same time, I was careful to say again and again that while the Affordable Care Act represented a significant step forward for America, it was not perfect, nor could it be the end of our efforts – and that if Republicans could put together a plan that is demonstrably better than the improvements we made to our health care system, that covers as many people at less cost, I would gladly and publicly support it.

That remains true. So I still hope that there are enough Republicans in Congress who remember that public service is not about sport or notching a political win, that there’s a reason we all chose to serve in the first place, and that hopefully, it’s to make people’s lives better, not worse.

But right now, after eight years, the legislation rushed through the House and the Senate without public hearings or debate would do the opposite. It would raise costs, reduce coverage, roll back protections, and ruin Medicaid as we know it. That’s not my opinion, but rather the conclusion of all objective analyses, from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which found that 23 million Americans would lose insurance, to America’s doctors, nurses, and hospitals on the front lines of our health care system.

The Senate bill, unveiled today, is not a health care bill. It’s a massive transfer of wealth from middle-class and poor families to the richest people in America. It hands enormous tax cuts to the rich and to the drug and insurance industries, paid for by cutting health care for everybody else. Those with private insurance will experience higher premiums and higher deductibles, with lower tax credits to help working families cover the costs, even as their plans might no longer cover pregnancy, mental health care, or expensive prescriptions. Discrimination based on pre-existing conditions could become the norm again. Millions of families will lose coverage entirely.

Simply put, if there’s a chance you might get sick, get old, or start a family – this bill will do you harm. And small tweaks over the course of the next couple weeks, under the guise of making these bills easier to stomach, cannot change the fundamental meanness at the core of this legislation.

I hope our Senators ask themselves – what will happen to the Americans grappling with opioid addiction who suddenly lose their coverage? What will happen to pregnant mothers, children with disabilities, poor adults and seniors who need long-term care once they can no longer count on Medicaid? What will happen if you have a medical emergency when insurance companies are once again allowed to exclude the benefits you need, send you unlimited bills, or set unaffordable deductibles? What impossible choices will working parents be forced to make if their child’s cancer treatment costs them more than their life savings?

To put the American people through that pain – while giving billionaires and corporations a massive tax cut in return – that’s tough to fathom. But it’s what’s at stake right now. So it remains my fervent hope that we step back and try to deliver on what the American people need.

That might take some time and compromise between Democrats and Republicans. But I believe that’s what people want to see. I believe it would demonstrate the kind of leadership that appeals to Americans across party lines. And I believe that it’s possible – if you are willing to make a difference again. If you’re willing to call your members of Congress. If you are willing to visit their offices. If you are willing to speak out, let them and the country know, in very real terms, what this means for you and your family.

After all, this debate has always been about something bigger than politics. It’s about the character of our country – who we are, and who we aspire to be. And that’s always worth fighting for.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

the fundamental meanness at the core of this legislation

hehehe

 

[Officerrob]

Sisolak was a big part of bringing the Raiders to Vegas

 

[GoldenEye 007]

He just voted to grant cert to a ton of cases that are right up his alley. He's probably not going anywhere.

Well hopefully. If him and RBG can't hold on, Dems need to entertain increasing the court if they ever get power again. Otherwise we'll be in for another world of hurt courtesy of the courts for the next 30 years.