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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair

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kirblar

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Barzul said:
Not sure why Harris is being targeted? Wasn't Gillibrand basically a Blue Dog before getting the Senate seat?
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Because Harris is putting herself out there and Gillibrand is staying in the shadows. They're going after the perceived front-runner just like w/ Hillary. (This is exactly why the "deny you're running at every opportunity" thing is a thing)
 
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benicillin

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Barzul said:
Not sure why Harris is being targeted? Wasn't Gillibrand basically a Blue Dog before getting the Senate seat?
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Harris is only a topic right now because Chelsea Manning got into it on Twitter and a lot of people like her Twitter account. Obviously supporting transitioning for prisoners is a big thing for her.

It's too early to worry about any of this though.
 
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VendettaRed07

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Barzul said:
Not sure why Harris is being targeted? Wasn't Gillibrand basically a Blue Dog before getting the Senate seat?
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Targeted by who though? Like one dude on Reddit or something who made a terrible meme?

I could probably find similar Gillibrand attacks if I searched hard enough.

Let's just chill until 2019 People
 
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Slizeezyc

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benicillin said:
Harris is only a topic right now because Chelsea Manning got into it on Twitter and a lot of people like her Twitter account. Obviously supporting transitioning for prisoners is a big thing for her.

It's too early to worry about any of this though.
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This definitely was a big spark for it, and again, Manning wasn't wrong. It's just the people who quickly jumped to also defend Manning and bag on Harris were highly suspect for the reasons I mostly mentioned.
 
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Holmes

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Considering how everyone on the internet blows everything out of proportion to the hundreth power, I'm sure all she says is "I wish he didn't do x"

Headline: Hillary EVISCERATES Bernie!
 
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Spoiled Milk

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Why are there Collins and Murkowski avatars in this thread

I'm flinching harder than when I had to see pigeon's Paul Ryan avatar for months.
 
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tbm24

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jack_package_200 said:
As satisfying as it might be to give one big fuck you, I wish she wouldn't.

It would likely worsen divisions on the left.
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I'm looking forward to seeing her be candid about what she thought about it. I wouldn't want to read a book from her about the election if she ignores one of the biggest aspects of it.

The left needs to be able to survive that or we're fucked.
 
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VendettaRed07

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jack_package_200 said:
Cofounder of the Justice Democrats for a start
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Idk who this guy is. Isn't Justice Dems like a glorified Facebook group created by the Young Turks or something ?

I know people are ready to think that there will be as many people who are going to attack her or drag her like they did with Hillary but I just don't think it will happen. She doesn't have even a remote fraction of the amount of baggage she had. Some people will try to push that "Shilama Harris" narrative for partisan reasons but I don't see really anything in her history that makes something like that stick
 
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JettDash

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I've already decided that I will vote for whoever wins the Dem primary. It is impossible that he/she is worse than Trump.
 
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kirblar

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VendettaRed07 said:
Idk who this guy is. Isn't Justice Dems like a glorified Facebook group created by the Young Turks or something ?

I know people are ready to think that there will be as many people who are going to attack her or drag her like they did with Hillary but I just don't think it will happen. She doesn't have even a remote fraction of the amount of baggage she had. Some people will try to push that "Shilama Harris" narrative for partisan reasons but I don't see really anything in her history that makes something like that stick
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It's TYT: The PAC.
 
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VendettaRed07

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Spoiled Milk said:
I've basically already decided I'm going to vote for Harris. I don't really want anyone else.
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I think she's cool too but dude let's wait for like one debate lol

She could get Rubio'd by Martin Unidentified O'Malley or something for all we know at this point. Or yeah she could be Obama 2.0

Let's just see what happens

Spoiled Milk said:
I've basically already decided I'm going to vote for Harris. I don't really want anyone else.
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Wait what the

The fuck?

Why on.. what?
 
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Spoiled Milk

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VendettaRed07 said:
I think she's cool too but dude let's wait for like one debate lol

She could get Rubio'd by Martin Unidentified O'Malley or something for all we know at this point. Or yeah she could be Obama 2.0

Let's just see what happens
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I've already submitted my ballot.

Holmes said:
You mean the good sis Kamala
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PREACH 👐👐👐

kirblar said:
Where on earth do you live?
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https://youtu.be/B-G1nnfyWmc

Dubbedinenglish said:
Y'all keep sleeping, I'm already drinking from the Franken-stein.
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I can already sense the divisions growing on poligaf. It'll be west coast vs. east coast vs. gen xers who liked Franken on SNL vs. spaghnum liberation party.
 
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Pixieking

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VendettaRed07 said:
Idk who this guy is. Isn't Justice Dems like a glorified Facebook group created by the Young Turks or something ?

I know people are ready to think that there will be as many people who are going to attack her or drag her like they did with Hillary but I just don't think it will happen. She doesn't have even a remote fraction of the amount of baggage she had. Some people will try to push that "Shilama Harris" narrative for partisan reasons but I don't see really anything in her history that makes something like that stick
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Something to bear in mind is that some of Hillary's baggage should never have stuck. A lot of the 90s era attacks by the GOP were just basic sexism, tinged with her being Bill's wife, for instance. Like, when you have Newt's mom relaying that Newt thought Hillary was a bitch 20 years ago, you shouldn't assume that nothing'll stick to Kamala. In some ways it's just as sexist a world out there as it was 20 years ago, and people will do a lot to justify not voting for a woman, or an african-american.
 
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B-Dubs

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jack_package_200 said:
As satisfying as it might be to give one big fuck you, I wish she wouldn't.

It would likely worsen divisions on the left.
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Those divisions aren't going anywhere regardless of what she does. If I'm going to read about the campaign from the candidates I'd rather they be honest. Straight up, if there's just salty feelings it will go away after a few weeks of Trump. If there's something there then it'll need to be hashed out at some point anyway.

I can honestly say this applies to any hypothetical Bernie book on the race as well. Lay it all out there so long as it's true. So long as people keep lying to themselves about why we're in this mess we'll never be able to beat Trump in 2020.
 
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VendettaRed07

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Spoiled Milk said:
The fuck are you smoking? I gave up on the Kings this year when we traded an all star for potato chips.

Wait, are you also a Sacramento native? I FOUND ONE.
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lol Nah I live in Connecticut

But, if I'm gonna believe she believes in wealth distribution, and hates trickle down, I need to see her wear a "fuck KD" shirt at some point.

A true anti car socialist from north cal would be a kings fan imo
 
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VendettaRed07

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Pixieking said:
Something to bear in mind is that some of Hillary's baggage should never have stuck. A lot of the 90s era attacks by the GOP were just basic sexism, tinged with her being Bill's wife, for instance. Like, when you have Newt's mom relaying that Newt thought Hillary was a bitch 20 years ago, you shouldn't assume that nothing'll stick to Kamala. In some ways it's just as sexist a world out there as it was 20 years ago, and people will do a lot to justify not voting for a woman, or an african-american.
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Right, I'm not denying that and it is unfortunate that she did get some of the stuff that she did thrown at her. But at the same time she didn't do herself any favors, and a massive string of unforced errors dragged her down. Not to say "nothing will stick" but from what I can tell, I don't see Kamala being in a similar boat as she hasn't done or said things as equally stupid or problematic in hindsight (apart from cheering for the Warriors)
 
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Ernest

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As the lies and contradictions mount, federal officials are deciding to simply ignore Trump

As stunning as that sounds, fresh evidence arrives every day of the government treating the man elected to lead it as someone talking mostly to himself.

On Tuesday alone, the commandant of the Coast Guard announced he will "not break faith" with transgender service members despite Trump's statement that they could no longer serve. Fellow Republicans in the Senate moved ahead with other business despite the president's insistence that they return to repealing Obamacare. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said, "we certainly don't blame the Chinese" for North Korea's nuclear program after Trump claimed, "China could easily solve this problem." And Vice President Mike Pence said the president and Congress speak in a "unified voice" on a bipartisan Russia sanctions bill Trump has signed, but not publicly embraced.

"What is most remarkable is the extent to which his senior officials act as if Trump were not the chief executive," Jack Goldsmith, a top Justice Department official under President George W. Bush, wrote last weekend on lawfareblog.

"Never has a president been so regularly ignored or contradicted by his own officials," Goldsmith added. "The president is a figurehead who barks out positions and desires, but his senior subordinates carry on with different commitments."

Federal officials aren't the only ones. Police chiefs distanced themselves from Trump's public call for rougher treatment of criminal suspects; the White House said the president was joking.

The Boy Scouts apologized for Trump's odd, politically charged remarks to the group. After Trump claimed in an interview that the Boy Scouts chief had called to declare it "the greatest speech ever made to them," the Scouts organization disclaimed any such call.

The disconnect between Trump's words and the government's actions has been apparent for months. In January, after Defense Secretary James Mattis contradicted Trump on the use of torture, the president said he would acquiesce to Mattis' view. The next month, after Trump pronounced himself open to something other than a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley corrected him and said the U.S. remains committed to a two-state solution.
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Trump isn't going anywhere but he can't fire everyone. And it's refreshing to see that people are willing to ignore the madman at the helm and do the right thing.
 
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Spoiled Milk

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DARK HORSE CONTENDER FOR THE NOMINATION:

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I actually have it on good authority from someone who knows this guy from years ago that he used to run the first craft brewing place in Denver. Lol. Also says he's a weirdo. What else would you expect from Colorado? He's like a Democratic Gary Johnson. I'd vote for him just for the novelty of it. I mean already live in a state governed by a guy nicknamed Moonbeam. 🌒 Like I wouldn't be surprised if Hickenlooper was a Discordian or something.

Does anyone actually read my posts?
 
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VendettaRed07

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Bernie was correct for voting against the bill because of Iran honestly

We should have sanctioned Russia but it didn't make sense to place Iran in there as well. It's not like they fucked with our election.
 
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skullmuffins

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VendettaRed07 said:
Bernie was correct for voting against the bill because of Iran honestly

We should have sanctioned Russia but it didn't make sense to place Iran in there as well. It's not like they fucked with our election.
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was the Iran stuff added in mostly to sweeten the deal for republicans? I think I read that.
 
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