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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair

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Prof. Bathtub

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No doubt at all that Mueller has recorded far more damning evidence of attempted obstruction of his investigation than even Comey received. But hey, why wait? Dust off the clearly impeachable obstructions before he does something that can't be undone. But it was just nativity, right?
 
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Spoiled Milk

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From the Dong-A Ilbo's editorial board (NOT a headline news story)

The phone call between the two heads of state came a day after the UN Security Council adopted a set of sanctions against North Korea with the levels of punitive intensity higher than ever. During the phone call, President Moon clearly said, “It is time for sanctions and pressure, not a dialogue.” His judgment derives from North Korea’s undeterred attempts at provocations in the face of the South’s continued emphasis on a twin track of sanctions and dialogues. President Moon also stressed that he would not condone yet another calamity of war taking place on the Korean Peninsula. It was an expression‎ of grave concern on the part of South Korea about White House National Security Adviser Herbert McMaster’s mentioning of “preventive war."

President Trump expressed his interest in President Moon’s proposal of an inter-Korean meeting wondered how the North would respond. Perhaps, it would be difficult for him to take President Moon’s proposal as the offer came right after a series of sanctions were adopted. In a response, President Moon made it clear that the main agenda of the proposed inter-Korean talks is reunion of separated families in North and South Korea and prevention of contingent conflicts, not North Korea’s nuclear and missile programs. Essentially, President Moon proposed to split up roles on the issues surrounding North Korea, where the U.S. and the international community lead the dialogues on Pyongyang’s nuclear and missile programs, and the South takes the initiative in hashing out the issues between the two Koreas.

However, North Korea is showing no response to President Moon’s offer. On Sunday, South Korea’s Foreign Minister Kang Kyung-hwa met with her North Korean counterpart Ri Yong Ho in Manila and urged the North to quickly respond to the proposal, but Ri dismissed the offer as “devoid of sincerity." Pyongyang is letting its stance be known that there would be no improvement in inter-Korean relations without first resolving the issues between the North and the U.S.
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Literally the only concern mentioned here is over the United States' warmongering. Also it seems preposterous to me that we dictate the security strategy of the Asian nations we're allied with. We're supposedly doing this for South Korea but it's South Korea that has to suggest to the US what might work better for it?
 
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Spoiled Milk

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PBY said:
Are the Democratic Socialists of America For Real?
DSA has experienced a surge in membership. The question is whether it can translate that enthusiasm into actual change.
https://newrepublic.com/article/144...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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“I woke up at 6 AM this morning and didn’t go to bed until 2 AM,” said Cathy Garcia, a delegate from DSA Santa Fe with a background in the labor movement. “And I feel pumped. I have only had one cup of coffee, because it’s not the coffee that is energizing me right now.”
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Yeah whatever Cathy lol
 
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GrapeApes

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Greigor The Fellhand said:
I'm starting to get the vibe that Trump said this stuff to get attention on him and that for the week.

kinda like someone gave him a heads up on a big Oppo dropping soon.
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Someone posted a forecast of NJ yesterday. It's cause it was raining and he couldn't golf. Just at his property watching cable news and fuming. It's raining again come Friday. He might be tweeting all day again.
 
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whyamihere

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Important special election tonight in Iowa. Huge Obama->Trump swing.

http://www.bleedingheartland.com/20...y-1100-early-votes-in-iowa-house-district-82/

Registered Democrats have returned 1,153 more ballots than Republicans in Iowa House district 82, as of today. The news will encourage supporters of Democratic nominee Phil Miller, though a strong election-day turnout by Republicans could still win the race for the GOP's Travis Harris. In the high-profile 2009 special Iowa House election covering some of the same territory, Democrat Curt Hanson led by about 1,000 early votes and ended up winning by 107.

This table is based on figures I received from elections office staff in Davis, Jefferson, and Van Buren counties. The numbers include absentee ballots returned through the mail as well as those submitted by citizens who voted early in person at the county auditor's office through August 7.

Absentee ballots received in Iowa House district 82 as of August 8, 2017
County Democrats Republicans no-party voters other total
Davis 311 247 37 1 596
Jefferson 1,585 453 261 9 2,308
Van Buren 168 211 64 n/a 443
district-wide 2,064 911 362 10 3,347

Note that these numbers reflect the party registration of those who cast early ballots, not votes tallied for either Phil Miller or Travis Harris. Some Democrats and Republicans may have crossed party lines, and we can't know how early voters affiliated with neither party split in this election. Also, some of the early ballots have probably been marked for Libertarian Joshua Miller or the Constitution Party's Edward Hee III, who also qualified as candidates in House district 82.

Still, I would guess Phil Miller leads by at least 1,100 votes, which is a lot for Harris to make up today. Total turnout for the 2009 special election was a little more than 8,000 votes; the Republican received more support on election day than Hanson, but not enough to overtake him. Polls opened today at 7 am and will close at 9 pm.

By many accounts, Democratic volunteers knocking doors in House district 82 outnumbered their Republican counterparts during these past few weeks. The GOP campaign on behalf of Harris seems to have been largely grounded in direct mail, television commercials, and some online advertising.

You can watch the Republicans' positive ads about Harris here and here and their attack ads against Miller here and here.

Bleeding Heartland posted the Democrats' positive ads about Miller here and here and the attack ad against Harris here.
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Greigor The Fellhand said:
I'm starting to get the vibe that Trump said this stuff to get attention on him and that for the week.

kinda like someone gave him a heads up on a big Oppo dropping soon.
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NK just launched a missile and a WaPo report says they can have small nuclear missiles. He's just responding to that news.
 
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aspiegamer

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New levels of "fire and fury" from the only country on the planet that's ever nuked anyone? What would that even theoretically translate to?
 
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watershed

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aspiegamer said:
New levels of "fire and fury" from the only country on the planet that's ever nuked anyone? What would that even theoretically translate to?
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He's talking out his ass as usual. As we know. Trump doesn't actually announce military actions on Twitter that the military will actually follow through with. But of course, I don't trust Trump in any crisis and him in the middle of a military one is really concerning.
 
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SatelliteOfLove

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Spoiled Milk said:
From the Dong-A Ilbo's editorial board (NOT a headline news story)



Literally the only concern mentioned here is over the United States' warmongering. Also it seems preposterous to me that we dictate the security strategy of the Asian nations we're allied with. We're supposedly doing this for South Korea but it's South Korea that has to suggest to the US what might work better for it?
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I am 39 years old.

I will be an old man when the US can again be a spokesman and a leader on the worldwide stage for peace, war, and liberal democracy.

And that's BEST case scenario.
 
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aspiegamer

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North Korea is me playing Civilization. I'll box myself in and do absolutely nothing other than rush to nukes so I can eventually work toward a coward's diplomatic victory. Unfortunately for NK, everyone else has had nukes for about 70 turns so it's pretty much impossible to take them seriously, and they have no spare cash to try to bribe anyone with for votes.
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He's talking out his ass as usual. As we know. Trump doesn't actually announce military actions on Twitter that the military will actually follow through with. But of course, I don't trust Trump in any crisis and him in the middle of a military one is really concerning.
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Of course it's just bluster, but you'd think it wouldn't be that hard to come up with threats that have some shred of originality to them. "Well, your face!" is a wrasslin'-level threat.
 
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RoKKeR

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That Republican senator on CNN was, for all intents and purposes, condoning the president's words and was talking about our nuclear capability.

Unbelievable.
 
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whyamihere

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I know Guam is a territory, but if they can't even get their missiles to work, they're going to try to say they can hit a super small island?
 
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Aaron Strife

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Not only is there the Iowa special election tonight (which would be a hold), but there are also special elections in Missouri for State House and State Senate. Some of the DailyKos crew are pretty bullish on our chances in the State House seat, where our candidate is Michela Skelton (a distant cousin of former US Rep. Ike Skelton).

Hopefully we can keep our record going by flipping HD-50 and holding the Iowa seat.
 
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NihonTiger90

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whyamihere said:
I know Guam is a territory, but if they can't even get their missiles to work, they're going to try to say they can hit a super small island?
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I think someone mentioned it, but U.S. keeps its B2s there. Likely that North Korean missiles would target those and who knows what else.
 
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VendettaRed07

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NK is stupid and not a rational actor. Don't expect a logical play from them. I wouldn't be surprised if they did just strike Guam for the fuck of it.
 
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pigeon

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Feinstein says we should hold immediate diplomatic talks with North Korea with no preconditions.

This strikes me as correct in every detail.
 
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nature boy

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INSANE
 
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whyamihere

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I’m sort of annoyed because I just realized that if we had actually made contact with aliens, Trump would definitely have accidentally tweeted it by now.
 
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Fenderputty

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whyamihere said:
I'm sort of annoyed because I just realized that if we had actually made contact with aliens, Trump would definitely have accidentally tweeted it by now.
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Nah ... Whatever secret agency that's hiding the Alien intel from us, is also hiding it from don.
EDIT: Goddamnit floyd
 
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