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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair

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They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.

Wilsongt

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Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Thank you Foxconn, for investing $10 BILLION DOLLARS with the potential for up to 13K new jobs in Wisconsin! MadeInTheUSA🇺🇸
 
LGBT stuff was supposed to drive a wedge between democrats and blue-collar voters? What? No one under the age of 70 gives a shit, and anyone under 40 doesn't understand why there has ever been any debate about LGBT issues at all. This is an even dumber miscalculation than thinking Democrats would cheer the firing of Comey. I'm glad that Time piece mentions Senator Baldwin, though. She was perfect in WI-2 (duh) but even I was marginally surprised that the state collectively didn't give a crap about her sexual orientation in 2012. Fun fact: Her replacement in WI-2 is also gay.

It'll be even more hilarious if Heller goes back, btw, after getting roughed up by casino billionaires last weekend to get him to vote in favor of MTP. That vote already killed him, and voting against anything new now won't undo the damage.
 

JettDash

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Thank you Foxconn, for investing $10 BILLION DOLLARS with the potential for up to 13K new jobs in Wisconsin! MadeInTheUSA🇺🇸

Up to 13k jobs on a $10 billion investment doesn’t seem like many.
 
It will be automated and the human workers will get shit wages. He did promise jobs, but never said anything about good jobs with decent pay lol
 
Y'know, now that you mention it, I'm not sure how they get around the 10 year deficit window stuff. Have it set to resume in 2027, maybe?

Letting it expire in 2027 wouldn't be a big deal at all. Plenty of time to properly repeal it, and both parties want this, so when things cool down a bit from the last few months of healthcare debate, it could have bipartisan support and not need 60. Even a full D/D/D would honestly probably make it permanent.

However, I'm not entirely sure the HFC or the ultra conservative crazies in the Senate will accept a "repeal" of Obamacare merely being a minor bipartisan tax cut

It's the same song as always, either you take away healthcare from 20 million people and take a vote at 40-60, or you make it passable to enough people but the crazies and it fails 45-55.
 

RDreamer

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Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Thank you Foxconn, for investing $10 BILLION DOLLARS with the potential for up to 13K new jobs in Wisconsin! MadeInTheUSA🇺🇸

Just read it requires $3 billion in subsidies. Uh... that's like $230,000 in subsidies per job. If they even get 13k jobs. Seems like a pretty shit deal.
 
That Foxconn factory is awesome, but there are questions, of course. The number of jobs is listed as "3,000-13,000" which is a massive gap that could certainly be automation matters. They also don't have the land yet, and the state has to cough up $3B before they get started. There's always a catch! It's far from being a done deal, even.
If a GOP minority could block Obama recess appointments with procedural bullshit and get SCOTUS to agree with them I can't fathom the situation being different with the parties reversed.
 

Zolo

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Already on that.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/25/politics/trump-recess-appointments/index.html

Using the threat of a filibuster, Democrats plan to force the Senate to hold pro forma sessions — a practice both parties have carried out to block recess appointments from presidents of opposite party, Democratic and Republican aides say.

Obama tried to challenge the practice when he made a series of recess appointments despite the Senate meeting in pro forma sessions every three days. But the Supreme Court ruled against him saying the Senate was not technically on recess unless it was away for at least 10 days.
 

PBY

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Ehhh that Foxconn deal and corresponding announcement seems fine. Dems/Obama touted similar factory openings, etc. No need to bag on everything.
 
My ideal scenario:

Sessions gets canned, gives the best damn "the South shall RIIIIIISE agee-yun" speech, fails to reclaim his Senate seat; Hot Rod becomes Acting AG because Trump can't make his recess appointment; Grassley continues to say, "Fuck you" to even holding hearings for a new AG.

America wins. Trump fumes.
 
My old Boy Scout Troop put out a statement apologizing for the president's remarks saying his speech was highly inappropriate. They are also hiring a guest speaker to come in to discuss "the importance of treating others with respect."

Today was a bad day in politics but I will take the small victories where I can.
 

kirblar

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The GOP isn't going to want someone coming in and firing Mueller either, his existence allows them to avoid owning that hot potato.
 
That Foxconn factory is awesome, but there are questions, of course. The number of jobs is listed as "3,000-13,000" which is a massive gap that could certainly be automation matters. They also don't have the land yet, and the state has to cough up $3B before they get started. There's always a catch!
If a GOP minority could block Obama recess appointments with procedural bullshit and get SCOTUS to agree with them I can't fathom the situation being different with the parties reversed.
I'm really unclear on this. I've seen some people say the GOP blocked them before as a senate minority because they did some weird shit that relied on them having a majority in the house, and dems couldn't pull the same stunt.
 

broz0rs

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The next Rolling Stone cover lol

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It's a win win if Trump fires Sessions.

1) Sessions stops ruining people's lives
2) Makes Trump look terrible and will no doubt receive backlash by the GOP, his base and open an entire new can of worms regarding the investigation.
 
Soooo... is any major new network going to cover 16 million more uninsured by next year and a 20% spike in premiums or...?

Not seeing it anywhere, which is weird because the media loves a good CBO trainwreck
 
I'm really unclear on this. I've seen some people say the GOP blocked them before as a senate minority because they did some weird shit that relied on them having a majority in the house, and dems couldn't pull the same stunt.

For recess appointments they pulled a technicality that some handful of people would show up every few days and declare congress still in session.
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
My ideal scenario:

Sessions gets canned, gives the best damn "the South shall RIIIIIISE agee-yun" speech, fails to reclaim his Senate seat; Hot Rod becomes Acting AG because Trump can't make his recess appointment; Grassley continues to say, "Fuck you" to even holding hearings for a new AG.

America wins. Trump fumes.

Mueller's investigation going on as is and Sessions getting canned would be such a good outcome that no one could've predicted when it was clear Trump wanted to can Mueller.
 

pigeon

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I'm really unclear on this. I've seen some people say the GOP blocked them before as a senate minority because they did some weird shit that relied on them having a majority in the house, and dems couldn't pull the same stunt.

Technically the president has the authority to dissolve both houses of Congress if they disagree on when to adjourn.

Nobody has done this for years and it's not clear Congress would allow it today.
 

Zolo

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Technically the president has the authority to dissolve both houses of Congress if they disagree on when to adjourn.

Nobody has done this for years and it's not clear Congress would allow it today.

Congress also seems to want Sessions to stay anyway, so it's in their best interests for Trump not to make any recess appointments anyway.
 
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