PoliGAF Debate #3 Thread of Hey Joe, where you goin' with that plunger in your hand

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My voter registration was mangled so badly when I lived in Wake County that my middle name was, for a brief time, LAWLS (instead of Lewis). No joke.
 
Fragamemnon said:
My voter registration was mangled so badly when I lived in Wake County that my middle name was, for a brief time, LAWLS (instead of Lewis). No joke.
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Data entry folks must have liked your last name.
 
Hey guys I am finally going to donate to the campaign. I thought about buying some bumper stickers but looking at how divisive this has gotten I am afraid to put it on my car. I really want to show my support but lets just say I live in the outskirts of Houston. Man this sucks that I actually kinda fear this.
 
SSGMUN10000 said:
Hey guys I am finally going to donate to the campaign. I thought about buying some bumper stickers but looking at how divisive this has gotten I am afraid to put it on my car. I really want to show my support but lets just say I live in the outskirts of Houston. Man this sucks that I actually kinda fear this.
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buy a bumper sticker, put it on a laptop carrying case, backback, or other suitable thing.
 
Oh man, that was fucking scary.

I accidentally clicked on the Canadian political thread, thought I was in this PoliGAF thread, and got so confused as to what the fuck people were talking about.

I think I'm scarred for life.
 
Tamanon said:
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Awesome!
 
Cloudy said:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122402888900234543.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Good article on the Ayers idiocy by a WSJ columnist who knows the guy
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My question is, why the hell did it take so long, and why is nobody speaking on his behalf? It seems like the guy knows tons of people.. you'd think some would choose to come out of the woodwork and defend him, state theyre friends with him, only to speak to how ridiculous the attacks of the McCain camp are. It would really soften the blows if people came out and spoke- would they all be accused of palling with a terrorist?
 
Slurpy said:
My question is, why the hell did it take so long, and why is nobody speaking on his behalf? It seems like the guy knows tons of people.. you'd think some would choose to come out of the woodwork and defend him, state theyre friends with him, only to speak to how ridiculous the attacks of the McCain camp are. It would really soften the blows if people came out and spoke- would they all be accused of palling with a terrorist?
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Maybe. The Republicans have been notorious for witch hunts in the last 60 years.
 
I'm watching Maddow, and I love this bit: Palin will be spending the weekend in Indiana.

Bush won this state by 21 points in 2004. Incredible. :D
 
HylianTom said:
I'm watching Maddow, and I love this bit: Palin will be spending the weekend in Indiana.

Bush won this state by 21 points in 2004. Incredible. :D
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Indiana? WTF? I think they are hiding her at this point :lol
 
Kinitari said:
You know... I'm not a particularly political person... in fact normally I try to keep away from political issues, as I never feel educated enough or like the issues matter to me. Also, Canadian politics are boring.

Last few days I've been really keeping up with the US electoral stuff, it's crazy... it's like an awesome drama unfolding. But I've also compiled links to some scary... scary places.

This particular thread on a very religious message board makes me sad inside and all over.

And it's not just that thread, it's the entire forum, it's other websites, it's Youtube videos. I am genuinely concerned for the state of your country - I don't particularly fear for your soon-to-be presidents life or anything, I just worry about a greater divide occurring because of his election. You'll see more people being very fort-right about their racism, you'll see people trying to rationalize something they know is irrational, and you'll see the people condemning them. Seriously, I don't know what you guys are gonna do about it.

Aw well, Canada isn't too bad when it comes to that kind of crap.
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I know this is old, but I just wanted to take a quote out of that very thread (Some Guy quoting what another woman said):

Originally Posted by Seemomgonuts View Post
You're right, the woman who said "I’m scared of Barack Obama… he’s an Arab terrorist…” obviously didn't know that Obama is not an Arab, so shame on her.
Yes, I suppose it's not her fault that she's hopelessly ignorant, and wilfully ignorant (since all she had to do was read a newspaper, turn on the news, or look on the Internet to find out facts).
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You know something? Obama saying that just because 98% of his friends are terrorists doesn't make him one reminds me of those shirts I see gay men wearing that say I'm not gay, my boyfriend is.
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Could you please back up that "98% of his friends being terrorists" statistic? Thanks!

Oh, and you do know that Bill Ayers was Chicago's 1997 Man of the Year, right? People can change, or so they told me when I first started going to church and was asking about being saved. But some folks don't subscribe to that particular theory.

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As for kill him? That was one dude, and if 4 is more than 1 then lets have another look at the 4 protesters who showed up to the rally wearing "Palin is a C***" on their shirts. What about wanting Sarah to get "gang raped in NYC"? Far worse has been said about her than has been said about Obama out of fear that they will be labeled racists, because as we all know, no black person is ever capable of racism towards white people, and "pig" is a happy in your heart type of term.
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Yep, and as I said before, I'm sad that NEITHER party's supporters can keep their noses clean.

How about the effigy of Obama lynched at George Fox University in Oregon?

Both major parties have horrible people as supporters. I'm sure there are some awful people supporting Bob Barr, as well. Does that mean that all the candidates are horrible people?
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Yeah there were some crackpots on that forum, but there were also some sane members trying to cut through the bullshit. Let's not lump them all in as terrible people.
 
Fragamemnon said:
My voter registration was mangled so badly when I lived in Wake County that my middle name was, for a brief time, LAWLS (instead of Lewis). No joke.
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:lol Is this the same Wake County I am living in right now?

Tamanon said:
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Heh.

Vicious: Resentment over socialism!
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Right click, save as. Thank you kind sir.
 
Anyone watching Morning Joe? Joe seems really on edge this morning, especially about Obama outspending McCain. Pretty hysterical.
 
The irony is he complains about the "Liberal Manhattan" media, but he completely ignores FoxNews and Conservative Radio, which have a HUGE reach. I don't hear him complaining about fairness from those outlets. He's basically having a tantrum about newspaper op-eds.
 
Joe said something about Jesse Jackson comments?

Why can't these old civil rights activist keep their mouths shut. Just put a lid on it for 3 more weeks. Their dream is almost realized, so they should stop trying to make headlines for themselves.
 
Cloudy said:
Is Jesse Jackson trying to sabotage Obama? WTF is wrong with this guy?

He is totally jealous and I think he wants Obama to lose :lol Hopefully it gets drowned out in the debate coverage. Geez...
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Sadly, I think quite a few older black social leaders are jealous towards Obama. Like Bill, they view Obama as a newcomer who hasn't paid his dues. But it is similar to the Republican attacks on Ayers; so many people are stuck in the past they don't realize the country has moved on from that shit.
 
HylianTom said:
Obama Dominating Among Early Voters in Five Swing States

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/obama-dominating-among-early-voters-in.html

New Mexico early voters: Obama up 23%

Ohio early voters: Obama up 18%

Georgia early voters: Obama up 6%

Iowa early voters: Obama up 34%

North Carolina early voters: Obama up 34%

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If these numbers are true, ouch for McCain..
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Obama will win most of those states but don't expect numbers like that, Obama has been pushing early voting FAAAAAR more than McCain.
 
I love hearing that McCain is destined to come back and tighten the race "because he's always done it before". No other reason.

I just cannot wait for the post-mortem on that campaign.
 
Hitokage said:
NEVER COUNT OUT A CLINTON!
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comeback kid, etc. bill did it in 92, hillary in new hampshire, why not mccain, again?

oh, because the new adage is quickly becoming:
running against Obama is like running into a brick wall - you lose.
 
I keep hearing about this Palin thing on SNL. Do they honestly believe in the McCain camp that putting her on SNL is going to help her image? :lol
 
The Triple Dog Dare

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/14/the-triple-dog-dare.aspx

It's not hard to envision how this may play out: McCain will raise Ayers in that awkward, semi-comic manner of his, as if he's not really sure it's something he wants to be bringing up. (Possibly moderator Bob Shieffer will bring it up for him, which would help, but I suspect any comment he makes will still sound uncomfortable.) The real-time viewer response needles will nosedive, as they have almost every time McCain has attacked in the debates so far.

Obama will very reasonably respond that it's a distant association, that he was 8 years old when Ayers committed his crimes, that he deplores said crimes, etc., etc. Then he'll turn it around on McCain, pointing out that it is all very old news, and the McCain campaign didn't think it was worth discussing until it found itself in a deep electoral hole. He'll accuse McCain of trying to "change the subject" and will cite the top McCain strategist who idiotically told the Daily News, "If we keep talking about the economic crisis we'll lose." Anyone who thinks such an exchange is a win for McCain should contact me immediately, as I have a lucrative opportunity in the housing market I'd like to discuss with you.
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If I were a betting man, i'd guess that Bob Schieffer has more important topics to bring-up than this. If McCain brings this up on his own, un-prompted by a question, he's going to come out of any exchange looking like an ass.
 
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/10/obama_spending_dominance_conti.html#more

Reports obtained by The Fix detailing spending by the two campaigns as well as the Republican National Committee show that Obama dropped more than $32 million on television in 17 battleground states between Oct. 7 and Oct. 13 -- an increase of $12 million over what he spent between Sept. 30 and Oct. 6.
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During that same time period, McCain spent approximately $10 million on ads in 14 states (the Arizona senator is not on television in Indiana, Michigan or Montana) while the RNC's independent expenditure effort disbursed $6 million more in eight states.
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Okay.. I think for the first time in a while, I saw Chuck Todd move the magic magnets of Colorado and Florida over to Obama's column for just a split second!

He was discussing a best-case scenario for McCain in which all of the swing-states-according-to-NBC fell to McCain, and said that McCain's ceiling was 274.. but that it was near-impossible for things to fall that way. Joe looked grim; you could read his face like a book.

It was nice seeing that blue number go past 264, if only for a moment.. :lol
 
HylianTom said:
Okay.. I think for the first time in a while, I saw Chuck Todd move the magic magnets of Colorado and Florida over to Obama's column for just a split second!

He was discussing a best-case scenario for McCain in which all of the swing-states-according-to-NBC fell to McCain, and said that McCain's ceiling was 274.. but that it was near-impossible for things to fall that way. Joe looked grim; you could read his face like a book.

It was nice seeing that blue number go past 264, if only for a moment.. :lol
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:lol poor Joe
 
Political Wire got an advance look at a new survey from Datamar in Florida that shows Sen. Barack Obama leading Sen. John McCain, 47% to 42%.

The survey has a margin of error of +/- 2.7%.

Key factor: 63% of those surveyed see the economy as the most important issue today.
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It's hard to do much when you are being outspent in the state by $2.9m. Nice sample size too.
 
TheKingsCrown said:
I keep hearing about this Palin thing on SNL. Do they honestly believe in the McCain camp that putting her on SNL is going to help her image? :lol
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Yes, because if she is on the show herself, it keeps SNL from going all out on her using Tina Fey... Surely they'd be more civil if she was there in person?
 
jorma said:
Yes, because if she is on the show herself, it keeps SNL from going all out on her using Tina Fey... Surely they'd be more civil if she was there in person?
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Maybe just for the episode. After Hillary appeared, they did the "My supporters are racist" sketch with Poehler.
 
Dunno if anyone's heard about it, but Charles Barkley was on Larry King last night doing political commentary and he said he bought a house in Alabama and is going to live there 7 years so he can run for governor in 2014. Barkley as Alabama governor in 2014...that would blow my mind lol.
 
HylianTom said:
Okay.. I think for the first time in a while, I saw Chuck Todd move the magic magnets of Colorado and Florida over to Obama's column for just a split second!

He was discussing a best-case scenario for McCain in which all of the swing-states-according-to-NBC fell to McCain, and said that McCain's ceiling was 274.. but that it was near-impossible for things to fall that way. Joe looked grim; you could read his face like a book.

It was nice seeing that blue number go past 264, if only for a moment.. :lol
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The CBS anchor uh... Harry Smith actually went down to the retarded jigsaw puzzle they use and totally layed the smack down on the woman doing the upkeeping. He threw Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan into Blue while laughing that they were ever "contested", then waltzed over to Colorado and threw down the puzzle piece. He winked at the camera and asked if Colorado being blue might influence New Mexico or Nevada. The poor lady just stammered there as he started dancing over Pennsylvania.

Harry Smith has bigger balls than Chuck Todd.
 
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