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PoliGAF Election Day 2008 Thread of A New Dawn in America (OBAMA ELECT)

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besada

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mckmas8808 said:
This is another good thing. More to the center the better for this country.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. That's how we keep getting pushed to the right. The left moves to center to be "fair" and the Right pushes ever harder right.

I'm ready to get back to not being the most conservative Western nation, which is where our center is now.
 
BrandNew said:
My final predictions:

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I hope anyway.
NC red?

Fuck you.
 

mj1108

Member
artredis1980 said:
State of the Race:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...raws-small-florida-crowd-on-race’s-final-day/

McCain drew 1000 people at the tampa bay Football stadium on his final day


Bush in 2004 in the same location on the final day drew 15,000 people

I am not a concern troll. I am just a guy who needs a 270 number besides the (D) candidate to make sure my faith in humanity is restored

Obama would sell out the stadium.....

greepoman said:
Dunno if it's been posted, but :

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/03/joe-plumber-plans-life-election/

How much you want to bet he's going to start taking unemployment benefits and/or welfare soon?

/facepalm

haha yeah...those socialist programs that help people!
 
Here is a thing about this whole coal issue . . . they were talking about how a cap & trade system might work and McCain supports the same cap & trade system.

So how is this a negative for Obama but a positive for McCain? It isn't.

A nice thing about the cap & trade system is that it may make nuclear power more viable since the free market hasn't wanted to build nukes since coal plants are cheaper & easier. Wind & solar systems will also get nice boosts.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
ToxicAdam said:
I'm still not wavering. Obama will lose Ohio and Florida, yet win the election.

Pennsylvania is still the big shocker for me. Back in March, I predicted they would go McCain and make this another TIGHT race. I was wrong.

Want fries with that cheesesytak? om nom nom
 

HolyStar

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Alright someone help me understand this, why do people get so upset by Obama's plan to tax people who make 250,000 or more? I know damn well that half of the people who say this have parents that make about 200,000 and the rest are way less. Also many people are saying that Obama changed his tax plan but it was just that the informecial was not as clear as it could be.
 

Barrett2

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Tamanon said:
The key isn't to move to the center, the key is to move the center.

Yep. The Republicans are so whacked out, they don't even know what conservative / liberal even mean any more. When the GOP platform is essentially endless war for endless peace, ever-decreasing taxes and anti-intellectualism... you are not dealing with rational people. If Obama can work with them, thats great. But I wouldn't mind if he and the Dems rammed home 51% legislation for the next two years straight.
 
Y2Kev said:
I think Obama will win Ohio, NC, but not FL. Cause Florida fucks everything up always.

I'd actually say the other way around. Fuck Ohio, mostly Southern Ohio. It's something fierce racist and 'publican. I can't depend on Ohio to do anything right--it was a winner for Hildawg after all.
 

hokahey

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FYI

No one gives a fuck about the coal comment.

A) 99.9% of America doesn't know what the fuck he's even talking about

B) They wouldn't care if they did
 

GDJustin

stuck my tongue deep inside Atlus' cookies
Turnip Truck said:
That's not necessarily a bad thing. There are those of us who have an equal disdain for the far right and the far left. We're called moderates. When McCain took the Republican primary, I was hugely relieved because he's always been more of a moderate republican on many issues. Even though I tend to lean democratic, I figured that whichever side won we'd be better off than we have been in the last 8 years. But when McCain buckled to the neoconservatives and brought Palin on to his ticket, that pretty much shoved me fully into the Democratic camp. The hateful ideological bilge he's been spewing around "socialism" has made me lose a tremendous amount of respect for someone whom I'd formerly admired as a senator.

Obama strikes me as being an extremely intelligent fellow who knows how to bring in the right advisors, speaks a positive message of hope, and weighs issues carefully before making decisions. I'm hoping he proves to be a solid moderate who considers the best interests of the nation, not his party, as he takes on the role of President.

You more or less summed up my position and opinion arc over the last 12 months exactly. Except by default I lean right, not left.

Soooo many of my repub. friends don't understand how I can support Obama, after traditionally supporting republican candidates. My answer is usually something like "Obama THINKS before he opens his mouth about how we would solve this or that problem America faces," but that answer usually just washes right over them.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
ToxicAdam said:
I'm still not wavering. Obama will lose Ohio and Florida, yet win the election.

Pennsylvania is still the big shocker for me. Back in March, I predicted they would go McCain and make this another TIGHT race. I was wrong.

In the predictions thread, I've got Obama winning 270-268 and losing OH, FL, AND PA.
 

Speevy

Banned
FIREBABY said:
Bu..bububu..but Sarah just said a few minutes ago "we need to grow the small business so that Joe the Plumber can hire more workers" Man these 2 are really the gift that keeps on giving.


In an ironic twist, Joe the Plumber winds up collecting a big fat check for sitting at home.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
chase said:
I keep saying this. But we still have all these people who "hate both parties" and are so proud of themselves for being in the middle as if it proves them to be independent thinkers. The center is defined by the parties they claim to hate!

Ugh.

To me, this sliding of the "center" to the right is the Repugs biggest achievement. Well, that and getting away with things that literally seem like they're out of a really good political comedy.


You guys are over thinking it. The 2006 DEM congress passed the bill to raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour. Lots of the REPs didn't want to do this. And some wanted to get rid of the minimum wage.

Stuff like this is what Obama is push.
 
speculawyer said:
Here is a thing about this whole coal issue . . . they were talking about how a cap & trade system might work and McCain supports the same cap & trade system.

So how is this a negative for Obama but a positive for McCain? It isn't.

A nice thing about the cap & trade system is that it may make nuclear power more viable since the free market hasn't wanted to build nukes since coal plants are cheaper & easier. Wind & solar systems will also get nice boosts.

McCain's program is voluntary (lol).

There's a lot of industries like this where cheap hidden costs keep it cheaper than other options. For example, industrial meat farming would collapse if they actually had to pay for the environmental impact of their shit lakes.
 
Plinko said:
http://www.drudgereport.com/

OK, Drudge has lost it. Check out the headline and picture:

"Obama congratulates McCain"

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No story, nothing. Treating it as if Obama actually did it on purpose. What a colossal douchebag.

LOL. I just went to drudge. Dude is fucking just trolling now. He is like the equivalent of that Andy is the money poster. :lol
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The Interrobanger said:
Abortions

It honestly wouldn't surprise me one bit. That would end her political career in the GOP.
 
Speevy said:
In an ironic twist, Joe the Plumber winds up collecting a big fat check for sitting at home.
No, no way. Joe loves this country too much to embrace socialism via big government. Either that, or he'll do it just to draw attention to the injustice of the system in a "do as I say, not as I do fashion." In that sense, he would just be taking advantage of the system to illustrate how unfair it is. He loves his country that much.
 
besada said:
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. That's how we keep getting pushed to the right. The left moves to center to be "fair" and the Right pushes ever harder right.

I'm ready to get back to not being the most conservative Western nation, which is where our center is now.
I wish more people understood the history of tax rates. People are calling Obama a socialist for trying to adjust the tax rates so that economy improves and we can pay our bills. But if Obama is a socialist, then Nixon and Eisenhower were communists! The tax rates were FAR more progressive back then.
 
Hey guys, my friend just told me about the latest "Obama supports infanticide" ad and I can't seem to find it online.

Apparently the final shot shows a baby on a steel metal cart and someone leaving the cart in a sterile looking room and then the lights go out.

Anyone got a link to the ad?
 
Stoney Mason said:
LOL. I just went to drudge. Dude is fucking just trolling now. He is like the equivalent of that Andy is the money poster. :lol

To be fair, Obama really needs to learn to scratch his face with a different fucking finger.
 

Tamanon

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Plinko said:
It honestly wouldn't surprise me one bit. That would end her political career in the GOP.

It would surprise the hell out of me considering how many kids she pops out. I think it's something minor like her not really needing glasses.:lol
 
At the risk of getting banned, has anything exciting happened in the last 48 hours, or is it just the usual HOPIUM HOPIUM HOPIUM/oh god what if we run out of hopium?
 

Barrett2

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Tamanon said:
It would surprise the hell out of me considering how many kids she pops out. I think it's something minor like her not really needing glasses.:lol

My wife made the argument, and the more I think about it the more true I think it is, is that Palin has had a boob job, and that is why Palin is withholding the medical records. She would probably be embarrassed to have this revealed.
 

Speevy

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dark steve said:
At the risk of getting banned, has anything exciting happened in the last 48 hours, or is it just the usual HOPIUM HOPIUM HOPIUM/oh god what if we run out of hopium?


We got a fresh supply of hopium. That's exciting.
 

Loudninja

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dark steve said:
At the risk of getting banned, has anything exciting happened in the last 48 hours, or is it just the usual HOPIUM HOPIUM HOPIUM/oh god what if we run out of hopium?

If we run out Amir0x will go get more.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
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This is my hopium overload. Part of me wanted to put MO too, but then it just looked insane :lol
 
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