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PoliGAF Interim Thread of cunning stunts and desperate punts
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Steve Youngblood
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It depends on who you're talking about. The argument about whether Clark was or wasn't a surrogate seems trivial, as Clark was blasted at the time, and Obama had to denounce the comment, much to our chagrin here.Gaborn said:
Clark was well known. That's why that comment got play, regardless of his official status in the campaign. Who, oustide of South Carolina, knows who this person is today? Is she an insider in the Obama campaign? Did she make those comments on a national show?
reilo said:
An good interviewer does not consistently interrupt their subject, editorialize mid-question ("if we were having a drink I know you wouldn't be saying this, hurr hurr") and open with a perspective coloring commentary, this is something Bill O'Reilly does and we hates him.
His point was sound, he was certainly right with the facts... as an interviewer, you simply must show a little more composure with the delivery of said facts. It was a tad immature
The Lamonster
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agreed on all points.polyh3dron said:
Olbermann intentionally skewered her last name the other night. I lol'd
Electing someone into office based on how willing they are to compromise any principles of decency or integrity just for the sake of getting into office isn't a winning strategy either. If that's what the election comes down to, it's a wash, because the choice between two such candidates would offer no better option between the two. That kind of election just contributes to voter apathy and isn't a recipe for any kind of worthwhile win.Krowley said:
It isn't as black and white as that. The presidency is important but it isn't the only way to influence American politics. If the effort to raise the level of discourse doesn't pay off in time for this election, we should continue to work on it in time for next, and the next, and as long as it takes. Not just fall into a state of utter defeat if it doesn't work in time for this election and allow the inroads made so far to fall to neglect.
Despite whatever else happens, this election will have been historic in a number of ways that are very positive for this nation and they shouldn't be overlooked. That Obama has done as well as he has as a black candidate, that his toughest opponent in the primaries was a woman, that even the Republicans put a woman on the ticket, even if that is initially as a gimmick but still an acknowledgment that their existing practices needed to be updated for the times. Walls are breaking down - it may be a slow, frustrating process but it is happening.
CharlieDigital
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AndyIsTheMoney said:
We didn't occupy any part of Europe in WWII.
We didn't occupy Japan in WWII.
We didn't occupy any part of Europe in WWI.
We aren't even occupying Afghanistan.
War != occupation.
worldrunover
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The Lamonster said:
Yeah, but the problem with Biden in a debate setting is it takes a lot of words for him to not say much at all. He needs to be more concise for the debates, but he's good on the stump.
Amir0x said:An good interviewer does not consistently interrupt their subject, editorialize mid-question ("if we were having a drink I know you wouldn't be saying this, hurr hurr") and open with a perspective coloring commentary, this is something Bill O'Reilly does and we hates him.
His point was sound, he was certainly right with the facts... as an interviewer, you simply must show a little more composure with the delivery of said facts. It was a tad immature
It was, but whenever you deal with someone like Pfotenhauer, that is really the only way you can get a point across. Because whenever Schuster opened his mouth, she interrupted him, too, and couldn't keep her own mouth shut because she just had to get in the last word.
rhfb said:
i didnt even know it actually came from a reputable source, i thought it was just garbage in a chain email... makes me sad for our new outlets. I mean, it takes a few minutes to realize that some books on the list werent around during the timeframe the discussion happened in
The Lamonster
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but it's Schuster, man.Amir0x said:An good interviewer does not consistently interrupt their subject, editorialize mid-question ("if we were having a drink I know you wouldn't be saying this, hurr hurr") and open with a perspective coloring commentary, this is something Bill O'Reilly does and we hates him.
His point was sound, he was certainly right with the facts... as an interviewer, you simply must show a little more composure with the delivery of said facts. It was a tad immature
He's just a kid but he's got a lotta heart!
PhoenixDark
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The Lamonster
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I know what you're saying, but just seeing him in person yesterday really made it clear - this is not a guy you'd want to argue with.worldrunover said:
Xisiqomelir
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Time published the book burning email as real? Srsly?
The Lamonster
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fucking Huck should have been the nominee.PhoenixDark said:
~oh, Iowa...what could have been~
bob_arctor
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jett said:
I feel sorrier for you since you don't live here to appreciate foreigners saying how sorry they feel for you. MAN, HOW WE LOVE PITY.
PhoenixDark said:
Did Huck basically just admit that Republican conservatives don't think they can compete with Democrats on the issues? I mean, that's something we already knew, but he's pretty much insinuating here that at least some on the right feel that way and so resort to personal attacks and fud spreading.
Xisiqomelir
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Gruco said:
I have no faith in Nevada. It's going to be IA/CO/NM with a 48% chance of Ohio and a ~30% chance of FL. He's definitely winning though, or I'm going to be stuck with a 50" Kuro instead of a 60" :lol
PhoenixDark
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Incognito said:
I totally agree, although this behavior is in tune with the way he ran his campaign as well. I wonder how he really feels about Palin :lol
The Lamonster
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golem said:
must be nice to be a spoiled trophy wife who gets everything she wants
Hitokage said:
Yeah, I wasn't looking at Kerry states, just how pollster.com stands today, and giving three "leaner" states to Obama:
Michigan + combination of the two aforementioned. Obama is +7 in NM, I'm gonna say that's his to lose and not a swing state anymore.
The Lamonster
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don't worry, this is as close as McCain will ever get to Obamascorcho said:
Palin wonderment will wear off.
Steve Youngblood
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My point is that one right in a series of devastatingly bad errors does not give you the right to campaign as a winner.AndyIsTheMoney said:
Maybe, just maybe, McCain got the surge right (I'm just playing devil's advocate here). I'll give him that. What I don't care for is this notion that "what's done is done. Sure, we fucked up at every turn, but we got the last one right, and my opponent got it wrong. If you prefer cowardice over victory, vote Obama."
This is crap. It brushes aside that this entire operation has been a huge clusterfuck in favor of "what have you done for me lately?" nonsense. The arguable success of the surge does not in anyway, shape, or form mean that McCain's right and Obama's wrong.
TheKingsCrown
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OuterWorldVoice said:
What makes you say that
AndyIsTheMoran
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CharlieDigital said:
yeah your right, were still not in parts of Europe, and Afghanistan. And Japan is allowed to create an army outside of protecting its own borders.
BenjaminBirdie
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golem said:
BROTHER!!
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