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PoliGAF Interim Thread of cunning stunts and desperate punts

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Incognito

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Saw a few replies above asking about out of state opportunities and all I'll say is this: THEY WANT AND NEED YOU!

Either call the campaign or email them. They will get back to you pretty quickly. They work on your terms. You can go where you want, when you want, for however long you want. You can either carpool to a state, drive yourself, or fly. As for housing accommodations ... again, if you want, you can stay at a supporters house or you can stay at a hotel. A list of the closest hotels will be given to you by the Obama campaign if you want to go that route. Trust me, it's as easy as ABC.

Obviously, expenses come into play but the Obama campaign does everything in its power to soften the blow.
 
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Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
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agrajag

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Haunted said:
But then she opens her mouth and the hateful bs she spews is a definite boner-killer.


edit: your tag is familar somehow
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I would have sex with her and verbally abuse her. "SUCK IT YOU LYING WHORE!!!!"
 
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backbreaker65

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Justin Bailey said:
Ok that's not the same thing as saying you're going to fix something. Every political candidate ever has said they're going to fix this and that when they get into office. To answer your original question, all they have to say is that they don't have the authority to do what they want to do currently, but they will as soon as they're elected. Not a very good question to ask since it has such an obvious answer, that's probably why no one has asked it :p

As for the Bin Laden thing, he is just talking about using the military to its full potential. It's just phrased to score a few political points.
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Hello, he has ACCESS to G. W. Bush. Again Obama states what he going to do by outlining his Policy, all John ever do is say he will fix it, HOW? is what I'm asking, we never get the HOW.
 
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Stoney Mason said:
What does that mean?
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Oh lets see, I imagine he would talk about how we haven't had the proper resources allocated and we lost focus and blah blah, and when he's elected he'll make the military's top priority to capture bin laden and bring him to justice.
 
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Incognito

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Overview of John McCain's health plan

ABSTRACT:

Senator John McCain's (R-AZ) health plan would eliminate the current tax exclusion of employer payments for health coverage, replace the exclusion with a refundable tax credit for those who purchase coverage, and encourage Americans to move to a national market for nongroup insurance. Middle-range estimates suggest that initially this change will have little impact on the number of uninsured people, although within five years this number will likely grow as the value of the tax credit falls relative to rising health care costs. Moving toward a relatively unregulated nongroup market will tend to raise costs, reduce the generosity of benefits, and leave people with fewer consumer protections.
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Rest at link.
 
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Evlar

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:lol

I've thought before the Keating Five was the Dems' Ace in the Hole, something to break McCain's "reformer" image late in the campaign. But I never expected an opportunity like this!
 
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thekad

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kaching said:
Here I thought this guys were smarter than this to attract attention to something like this. Wouldn't it be better to just let it play out, let Palin seem cooperative yet just the right level of clueless like she's perfected on the national stage in the past couple of weeks? I'd think they could deflate the severity of any disciplinary measures this way.
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The McCain campaign is basically betting that the media doesn't take notice of them pulling a Bush/Cheney on this investigation and covers more relevant things like lipstick.

Honestly, this scandal - and more importantly, Palin's authoritarian handling of the investigation - should be on the front-page of this election. But it's not.
 
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Tamanon

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Wow, McCain and Palin to campaign together again today. That's bizarre.

Incognito: Yeah, McCain's healthcare plan is really bizarre, he actually doesn't seem to have much of one, and certainly not one that will really improve things.
 
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Stoney Mason

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Justin Bailey said:
Oh lets see, I imagine he would talk about how we haven't had the proper resources allocated and we lost focus and blah blah, and when he's elected he'll make the military's top priority to capture bin laden and bring him to justice.
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Secret plans are secret...

John McCain says in almost every stump speech that he knows how to capture Osama bin Laden and that he’d follow the al Qaeda leader to the “Gates of Hell.”

So Washington Wire was wondering, what does McCain know that President Bush and the Pentagon don’t about how to sweep up America’s most elusive enemy.

“One thing I will not do is telegraph my punches. Osama bin Laden will be the last to know,” he said today while riding on the back of his bus between Florida events. In other words: he’s not telling. Why not share his strategy with the current occupant of the White House? “Because I have my own ideas and it would require implementation of certain policies and procedures that only as the president of the United States can be taken.”

That response, of course, echoes Richard Nixon’s campaign promise in 1968 to stop the Vietnam War. Nixon also declined to say what his plan was. America’s involvement in the Vietnam war continued until 1973.

As for the Gates of Hell themselves, McCain says he knows all about them. “I think I’ve been close,” he joked.
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http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/01/27/mccains-secret-plan-to-capture-bin-laden/
 
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Tamanon

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thekad said:
The McCain campaign is basically betting that the media doesn't take notice of them pulling a Bush/Cheney on this investigation and covers more relevant things like lipstick.

Honestly, this scandal - and more importantly, Palin's authoritarian handling of the investigation - should be on the front-page of this election. But it's not.
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They should just scrap Race to the White House and let Dan Abrams tear this case apart every day.:lol
 
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Kildace

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Tamanon said:
Wow, McCain and Palin to campaign together again today. That's bizarre.
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Not really, Palin probably still hasn't crammed enough to fly solo and McCain alone has absolutely no draw. Pretty sad.
 
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Tamanon

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http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/110403.html

Sarah Palin will speak at next week’s Jewish-sponsored rally to protest Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the United Nations.

In addition to Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee and Alaska governor, confirmed speakers include U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), an Iranian dissident, a black minister and Jewish leaders, according to a key group organizing the rally, the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations
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Er.....isn't it a bit odd to have campaigning candidates speaking at anti-foreign leadership rallies?

I mean, I can see it if its not specifically anti- something.
 
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We have an instant messenger application here at work, and these are the two quotes I use in my profile:

"No one should ever sit in this office over 70 years old, and that I know" -- Dwight D. Eisenhower

“I voted with the president over 90 percent of the time, higher than a lot of my even Republican colleagues!”
- John McCain

They're in-line with the latest Obama camp's message!
 
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MightyHedgehog said:
Did Carly Fiorina just invalidate the McCain campaign's specious 'executive experience' argument today?

And that's gotta be an elephant-sized skeleton in Palin's closet if the McCain campaign has to get in on reversing her previously made promise to be 'open and transparent' by fully cooperating with the bi-partisan ethics investigation.
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UPDATE: In a subsequent appearance on MSNBC, Fiorina was asked about her Palin remark. “I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation. I don’t think Barack Obama could run a major corporation. I don’t think Joe Biden could,” she said, “But it is not the same as being the president or vice president of the United States. It is a fallacy to suggest that the country is like a company, so of course, to run a business, you have to have a lifetime of experience in business, but that’s not what Sarah Palin, John McCain, Barack Obama or Joe Biden are doing.”
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I guess we all recognize the CEO style of presidency is a disaster now...
 
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speculawyer

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ShOcKwAvE said:
The McCain campaign is getting really good at stealing Obama's slogans:

Enough is Enough
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I think Obama should start calling himself a Maverick. :D

Obama should do an add with a series of pictures/videos showing him with a slogan then McCain copying the slogan.

Then say . . . vote for real change . . . not a pale imitator. After all, who will they be able to copy if they were to become elected?
 
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Hitokage

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Stoney Mason said:
I guess we all recognize the CEO style of presidency is a disaster now...
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Not a good example because Bush wasn't good in his business ventures, and there's a counterexample of Mark Warner who by many accounts did a decent job of it in his state.
 
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Stoney Mason

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Hitokage said:
Not a good example because Bush wasn't good in his business ventures, and there's a counterexample of Mark Warner who by many accounts did a decent job of it in his state.
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I was more just going for a cheap snark. Being a business CEO always goes back and forth as whether it is some sort of justified qualification (ala Rudy's line about Obama never balancing the budget of a city, a business, etc) to being a president. Same as with executive experience.
 
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McCain Economic Adviser Carly Fiorina's Golden Parachute

ABC News' Lisa Chinn and Jennifer Parker report: Republican ticket mates John McCain and Sarah Palin Monday blasted corporate executives who leave their company with a "golden parachute" and pledged to "stop multimillion dollar payouts" to CEOs, seeming to forget their own top economic adviser Carly Fiorina walked away with $45 million, including a $21.4 million severance package when she was dismissed by Hewlett Packard in 2005.

"We are going to reform the way Wall Street does business and put an end to the greed that has driven our markets into chaos," McCain said at a campaign rally in Florida Monday, as Wall Street reeled with the news that brokerage firm Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy and Merrill Lynch was sold to Bank of America.

"We will stop multimillion dollar payouts to CEO’s who have broken the public trust. We will put an end to running Wall Street like a casino. We will make businesses work for the benefit of their shareholders and employees. And we will make sure that your savings, IRA, 401k and pension accounts are protected,” McCain said.

Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, echoed McCain's comments almost verbatim as she campaigned on her own in Golden, Colo., Monday.

"John McCain and I we're going to put an end to the mismanagement and abuses and on Wall Street that have resulted in this financial crisis," Palin said Monday. "We are going to reform the way Wall Street does business and stop multi-million dollar payouts and golden parachutes to CEOs who break the public trust."

The McCain campaign was asked by ABC News to clarify what a McCain administration would do to "stop multimillion dollar payouts" to CEOs.

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said McCain supports allowing company shareholders to vote on CEO compensation. However it's unclear how any president could enforce such a measure within a private company.

"What he supports is making sure that shareholders can vote on CEO compensation, right now he's saying they don't," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers told ABC News.

McCain's top economics adviser Carly Fiorina, a McCain campaign surrogate who made the rounds on the Sunday morning talk shows this past weekend and appeared on CNN Monday speaking for McCain, herself benefited from a multimillion dollar payout.

Fiorina was dismissed as the CEO of Hewlett Packard in 2005 after a merger with Compaq floundered, stock prices plunged 50 percent, and 20,000 people were layed off. Fiorina walked away with a $21.4 million severance package.

Asked whether McCain was talking about CEOs like Fiorina, McCain's top adviser who walked away with millions in compensation as her company's stock price plunged, Rogers said McCain was "talking about the issues that are before us today."

"We're talking about Freddie and Fannie and CEOs like Jimmy Cayne of Bear Stearns, Angelo Mozilo at Countrywide, folks that are largely responsible for what happened and walk away with this kind of multimillion dollar payout," Rogers said.

"I don't think there's any analogy there," Rogers said referring to Fiorina.
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Glad someone is noticing. The hypocracy is as rich as McCain railing against lobbyists.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/mccain-economic.html
 
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Fatalah

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speculawyer said:
I think Obama should start calling himself a Maverick. :D
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Yeah, imagine!

But you know what, I think the word "maverick" would have a negative effect on Obama.

The word would conjure up feelings of "scary change". Plus, Obama would be called a "cheap copy cat!"
 
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