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[Shig]

I tried telling my brother about some of the Palin topics (the librarian, the trooper, AIP) and he started yelling at me about spreading bull shit left wing rumors:lol I was like "....but these are facts. No spin." and he started bring up reverend wright in comparison, like he had the potential to be the VPoUSA or something:lol Seriously, he didn't even understand what the AIP was at first, he thought it was a normal Independent party and I was like "No...they want to secede from America." Really caught him off guard.

Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

 

[Gaborn]

you can only see 1 eye!

Yeah, but I don't need to look at his eyes...........

 

[Haunted]

WTF? I don't even know where I should start being offended!!!

-Should it be normal operating procedure for small town mayors to hire lobbyists?

-Are tax-dollars going to pay for lobbyists? Is that even legal? (It shouldn't be if it is.)

-So, have they totally lied to us about her being a "reformer"? (Yes.)

-Earmarks?

-Looks like standard GOP style socialism . . . have the 'rich' blue states pay the taxes while the red-states are a bunch of 'welfare mothers'.

-$27 Million for a town of 6,700 residents? . . . That is $4030 per resident! Do you think they even come close to paying that much in federal taxes each?

-Oh . . . don't forget, as residents of Alaska, they get around $2000 in oil royalty payments for each resident.

-Well, there is some 'fiscal responsibility', right there.

And those are just being offended from a (real) conservative point of view.

Man, that just isn't right. What a bad, bad pick.

 

[reilo]

Yeah, but I don't need to look at his eyes...........

You wouldn't mind staring at the body part with the one eye anyway, amirite?!

 

[speculawyer]

edit: Specu, dude get a new comic for crying out loud!

No way man. Fiscal irresponsibility is one of my biggest complaints with the GOP. I will post that comic every time fiscal responsibility is discussed.

I hate all the 'social conservatism' crap of the GOP, but I've always felt that I should at least not be so upset when the GOP are control since they are supposed to at least be fiscally conservative. But ever since Reagan, the GOP have been the complete opposite of fiscal responsibility. Yet for some reason, endless dolts continue to push it as a meme associated with the GOP despite its violent clash with reality. So I vow to humiliate the GOP into having some semblance of fiscal responsibility.

 

[VanMardigan]

Well I'll say it again: damn I miss Tim Russert. He would have loved this political race! He didn't even get to see that it would be Obama as the nominee!

He's looking down at the elections from heaven!!

Oh wait, this is far left gaf, he's been obliterated.

 

[Gaborn]

You wouldn't mind staring at the body part with the one eye anyway, amirite?!

this is true.

 

[polyh3dron]

I'd rather fight someone who is openly hostile to gay rights than someone who is kindly hostile. That is, Obama would be nice about telling us to sit down and shut up about wanting equal rights by giving us most of what we want while wholly denying us the dignity of the title.

With McCain in office not only would you have to fight an openly hostile President, you'd have to fight an openly hostile Supreme Court as well.

 

[Particle Physicist]

I'd rather fight someone who is openly hostile to gay rights than someone who is kindly hostile. That is, Obama would be nice about telling us to sit down and shut up about wanting equal rights by giving us most of what we want while wholly denying us the dignity of the title.

openly hostile people are less willing to talk or concede.

 

[gkryhewy]

small town with little economy - she's doing exactly what's expected of a mayor. then again, i think 99% of all the demagoguery on earmarks is stupid anyhow.

Are you kidding? That is a HUGE amount of money in earmarks for any town. Agreed on the demagoguery, but it is not typical for little towns to hire earmark lobbyists (particularly ones appended to the anti-earmark mcsame ticket).

He's looking down at the elections from heaven!!

Oh wait, this is far left gaf, he's been obliterated.

One can't complain. I have my friends. Someone spoke to me only yesterday.

 

[3rdman]

He's looking down at the elections from heaven!!

Oh wait, this is far left gaf, he's been obliterated.

Zombie Tim Russert is very happy!

 

[ViperVisor]

Brokaw says how mavericky this is and it is like a WWII dogfight "It could work"



Or it could fucking crash and burn like McCain's plane did.

 

[Amir0x]

He's looking down at the elections from heaven!!

Oh wait, this is far left gaf, he's been obliterated.

i'm not sure how this laughable appeal to raw emotions is a justification for belief in something that isn't true like heaven, but hey... if it allows you to attack the far left!

 

[speculawyer]

Stop feeding Gaborn on gay marriage, I want to see him melt-down over lobbyists being used to get $27 million in SUBSIDIES for a town of 6700 in a completely SOCIALIST manner.

Free market, my ass.

 

[Blackhead]

I'd rather fight someone who is openly hostile to gay rights than someone who is kindly hostile. That is, Obama would be nice about telling us to sit down and shut up about wanting equal rights by giving us most of what we want while wholly denying us the dignity of the title.

Well, it's the old revolutionary question; would you rather be fighting against a dictator or a democrat? A couple of people have pointed out here that they'd much rather not live under the dictator even though change might take longer to achieve. And 'might' is the key word because nobody really knows how long an Obama presidency might stall the march of gay marriage.

To exaggerate, do you think it's easier to fight for gay rights in Texas or in New York? Where do you think it will be achieved first?

 

[BobLoblaw]

He's looking down at the elections from heaven!!

Oh wait, this is far left gaf, he's been obliterated.

Don't know why, but this seriously made me :lol.

 

[reilo]

Brokaw mention how mavericky and this is like a WWII dogfight "It could work":

Or it could fucking crash and burn like McCain's plane did.

Hey now, the metaphor he used was:

"This pick could explode into popularity, or explode in McCain's face."

 

[Gaborn]

With McCain in office not only would you have to fight an openly hostile President, you'd have to fight an openly hostile Supreme Court as well.

as I said earlier, I don't believe marriage equality will happen through the Supreme court, I believe it will be a bottom up movement through the states for a while longer.

 

[scorcho]

Zombie Tim Russert is very happy!

hey, what can i type other than the man had a big heart.

[digs up text of me dismissing Russert three months ago]

Russert: Now, I want to compare what you wrote about me now with what you wrote about me three months ago...

 

[Particle Physicist]

as I said earlier, I don't believe marriage equality will happen through the Supreme court, I believe it will be a bottom up movement through the states for a while longer.

im pretty sure obama has stated that its up to the states to decide on gay marriage. i seriously doubt that obama would do anything to impede a state from allowing gay marriage.. mccain on the other hand...

 

[The Blue Jihad]

the dignity of the title.

I get what you're saying, and in some ways, I do agree with you, at least philosophically. However...

There really isn't any dignity left in the title of marriage. "Marriage" has become a bad joke on all fronts. In politics, in Hollywood, in regular citizenry, in the stupidly high divorce rate...etc. In fact, there was never any dignity in the title. The original concept of marriage was purely for economic strength and political alliances. It was a bartering tool.

So um. Just wanted to chime in.

 

[gkryhewy]

Don't know why, but this seriously made me :lol.

eeyore is cute.

 

[lexdysia]

Wow. Pander much with a band during the convention? Wow.

 

[speculawyer]

eh? i thought he wasnt a democrat anymore?

He isn't . . . but the truth doesn't sound as good.

The guy was kicked out of his party and he is now of the 'Connecticut for Lieberman Party'.

 

[Rugasuki]

Has anyone mentioned how Palin's executive experience resulted in a car wash she was part owner of having an involuntary dissolution by the state?

"A Feb. 11, 2007 letter to the governor's business partner advises that the car wash had "not filed its biennial report and/or paid its biennial fees," which were more than a year overdue.

The warning letter was written on state letterhead, which carried Palin's name at the top, next to the state seal.

On April 3, 2007, the state went further and issued a "certificate of involuntary dissolution" because of the car wash's failure to file its report and pay state licensing fees."



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_scrubbing_car_wash.html

The question that will be asked is if she can't manage a car wash how can she manage the U.S.

 

[Gaborn]

im pretty sure obama has stated that its up to the states to decide on gay marriage. i seriously doubt that obama would do anything to impede a state from allowing gay marriage.. mccain on the other hand...

There's only so much McCain can do on marriage unless you think the Democratically controlled congress is going to pass the FMA any time soon. Obama may believe it's for the states to decide marriage, but with him agitating for the "equality" of civil unions I fear he may tilt the debate in a direction McCain can't, the louder McCain opposes gay marriage the more the pro SSM movement will grow and energize.

Blue Jihad - Just because some straight couples have shit up the institution of marriage does not mean gay couples don't want the dignity and recognition it DOES hold for many people. People often dream about getting married throughout their childhood, it STILL has power to many people, and it's still an important concept.

 

[VanMardigan]

i'm not sure how this laughable appeal to raw emotions is a justification for belief in something that isn't true like heaven, but hey... if it allows you to attack the far left!

I was totally using raw emotion so that you would believe in heaven. Did it work?
But really, I miss Russert too.

 

[polyh3dron]

as I said earlier, I don't believe marriage equality will happen through the Supreme court, I believe it will be a bottom up movement through the states for a while longer.

So a theocratic Supreme Court would not hurt the chances for equal rights for gays?

Are you out of your mind?

 

[Jenga]

I tried telling my brother about some of the Palin topics (the librarian, the trooper, AIP) and he started yelling at me about spreading bull shit left wing rumors:lol I was like "....but these are facts. No spin." and he started bring up reverend wright in comparison, like he had the potential to be the VPoUSA or something:lol Seriously, he didn't even understand what the AIP was at first, he thought it was a normal Independent party and I was like "No...they want to secede from America." Really caught him off guard.

Show him the links from reputable news sites, and the various youtube videos.

 

[scorcho]

i lost count of how many times Gregory used 'maverick' in the last two minutes.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Has anyone mentioned how Palin's executive experience resulted in a car wash she was part owner of having an involuntary dissolution by the state?

"A Feb. 11, 2007 letter to the governor's business partner advises that the car wash had "not filed its biennial report and/or paid its biennial fees," which were more than a year overdue.

The warning letter was written on state letterhead, which carried Palin's name at the top, next to the state seal.

On April 3, 2007, the state went further and issued a "certificate of involuntary dissolution" because of the car wash's failure to file its report and pay state licensing fees."



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_scrubbing_car_wash.html

The question that will be asked is if she can't manage a car wash how can she manage the U.S.

the rabbit hole

IT KEEPS GOING

 

[UltimaKilo]

Of course the main reason McCain won was because of winner-take-alls in the blue states. If McCain tanks badly, you can expect a removal of the winner-take-alls from them.

So you think Romney couldn't have won against Obama?

 

[lexdysia]

Has anyone mentioned how Palin's executive experience resulted in a car wash she was part owner of having an involuntary dissolution by the state?

"A Feb. 11, 2007 letter to the governor's business partner advises that the car wash had "not filed its biennial report and/or paid its biennial fees," which were more than a year overdue.

The warning letter was written on state letterhead, which carried Palin's name at the top, next to the state seal.

On April 3, 2007, the state went further and issued a "certificate of involuntary dissolution" because of the car wash's failure to file its report and pay state licensing fees."



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_scrubbing_car_wash.html

The question that will be asked is if she can't manage a car wash how can she manage the U.S.

Well, it's certainly recursive and meta, much like this whole vet-gate fiasco.

 

[Gaborn]

So a theocratic Supreme Court would not hurt the chances for equal rights for gays?

Are you out of your mind?

a theocratic supreme court wouldn't have the constitutional power to BAN gay marriage, it can only declare a law constitutional or unconstitutional and the constitutional is presently silent on gay marriage. That's why, for example Massachusetts and california's marriage decisions were unreviewable by the supreme court... there as no federal question.

 

[gkryhewy]

So you think Romney couldn't have won against Obama?

Romney couldn't have won against Osama

 

[polyh3dron]

I can't believe the Republicans really think this Country First shit is going to fly, especially now with PalinGate. By saying loudly that McCain Puts Country First, you're insinuating that Obama ISN'T putting "country first". How in the fuck is he not putting country first?

 

[Tamanon]

So you think Romney couldn't have won against Obama?

I think he'd have a better shot at least, just because he can also present himself as change. They'd toss someone on the ticket to mollify evangelicals of course, Huckabee would probably be alright with being the Veep then.

 

[RiZ III]

So you think Romney couldn't have won against Obama?

The right wing base of the Republican party, which constitutes a lot of votes for them now, are too bigoted to ever vote for a Mormon.

 

[lexdysia]

I can't believe the Republicans really think this Country First shit is going to fly, especially now with PalinGate. By saying loudly that McCain Puts Country First, you're insinuating that Obama ISN'T putting "country first". How in the fuck is he not putting country first?

Implications and subtlety don't affect the Republican base.

WTF: Why are they having a hotel lobby, muzak fest in the main hall?

 

[M3wThr33]

Has anyone mentioned how Palin's executive experience resulted in a car wash she was part owner of having an involuntary dissolution by the state?

"A Feb. 11, 2007 letter to the governor's business partner advises that the car wash had "not filed its biennial report and/or paid its biennial fees," which were more than a year overdue.

The warning letter was written on state letterhead, which carried Palin's name at the top, next to the state seal.

On April 3, 2007, the state went further and issued a "certificate of involuntary dissolution" because of the car wash's failure to file its report and pay state licensing fees."



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_scrubbing_car_wash.html

The question that will be asked is if she can't manage a car wash how can she manage the U.S.

Wait. She wrote a bill to a place she owned 40% stock in?

 

[ronito]

Romney couldn't have won against Osama

Let's be clear here. The only issue that kept Romney from being the right's wonderboy like Obama is to the left is the mormon issue. The man is slick and has experience. The things you could call him out against (IE: gay marriage and universal healthcare) go away once the primaries are over.

 

[qwertybob]

The question that will be asked is if she can't manage a car wash how can she manage the U.S.

Is it any wonder the car wash failed? she has a record of dirt related problems - for some reason it just keeps accumulating.

 

[gkryhewy]

Wait. She wrote a bill to a place she owned 40% stock in?

MAVERICK

 

[reilo]

:lol :lol

Mathews: "Do you know who the governor of Alaska is?"
Delay: "Of course I do! It's Sarah Pah--- Sarah Palin"

Mathews:" aaaaahahahahahaaaaahahaha"


:lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[gkryhewy]

Let's be clear here. The only issue that kept Romney from being the right's wonderboy like Obama is to the left is the mormon issue. The man is slick and has experience. The things you could call him out against (IE: gay marriage and universal healthcare) go away once the primaries are over.

There is no way a wealthy ken doll was going to win the presidency in this election cycle. Even leaving aside the space alien stuff.

 

[speculawyer]

The right wing base of the Republican party, which constitutes a lot of votes for them now, are too bigoted to ever vote for a Mormon.

Yeah, but it would have been the battle of bigotry . . . Mormon or black guy.

Or even better . . . bigotry battle with ignorance added: Mormon v. black Muslim. :lol

 

[ronito]

There is no way a wealthy ken doll was going to win the presidency in this election cycle. Even leaving aside the space alien stuff.

Oh but a wealthy Prospector Stinky Pete doll can?

 

[BigBoss]

.

 

[gkryhewy]

Oh but a wealthy Prospector Stinky Pete doll can?

I have no idea what you're trying to say, but almost certainly yes. I'd vote twice.

 

[greepoman]

Bristol Palin’s boyfriend plans to join the family of the Republican vice presidential candidate at the GOP convention.

Way not to bring even more attention to it.