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[Neoxon]

It's a new page, so here's the discussion I did with VesperArcade on the whole X-Men/F4 ban situation.

 

[Grimsen]

2 very simple steps:

1: put 5-6-7 Darkstalkers characters in Marvel VS Capcom 4
2: "Hey look! We already have half of the game done! no point in doing Darkstalkers 4!"

FTFY

 

[volgihn]

Rip mango sentinel.

 

[Skilletor]

2 very simple steps:

1: put 5-6-7 Darkstalkers characters in Marvel VS Capcom 4
2: "Hey look! We already have half of the game done! Let's do Darkstalkers 4!"

I am hoping we get a few VS reps. Let's go Talbain.

 

[notworksafe]

Not like the MvC games tend to have a lot of female Marvel characters, but seeing these lists reminds me how bad the movies are on the female superhero front, damn. Not much to choose from:

Black Widow
Scarlet Witch
Gamora
Jessica Jones
Sif
The Ancient One
Captain Marvel

I feel like only Black Widow is a definite.

Don't worry, the greatest Marvel woman's return was predicted

 

[PSqueak]

My persona roster prediction/wishlist/rambling:

Returning characters:

Guaranteed with MCU make over tier:
-Captain America
-Hulk
-Iron Man
-Thor
-Doctor Strange
-Spider-Man
-Hawkeye (new lvl 3)
-Rocket Raccoon (New moveset)

Likely because they're Vaguely MCU related tier:

-Dormammu (MCU inspired makeover?)
-She-Hulk
-Nova (MCU inspired makeover?)

"I feel they could return and i hope so" Tier:

-Taskmaster
-Ghost Rider (AoS makeover?)
-Iron Fist (Tv makeover?)

Probably gonna be cut tier (D :

-MODOK
-Shuma-Gorath

New characters:

99% sure they'll add them because MCU tier:

-Black Panther
-Vision
-Ant-Man
-Black Widow
-Thanos (Sub or Final Boss, but playable)
-Groot (either on his own or as part of Rocket's new moveset)
-Star Lord
-Drax or Gamora (somehow i feel we won't get both)

New characters from the marvel universe tier:

-Ms. Marvel (Kamala)
-Captain Marvel (Danvers)
-Squirrel Girl (as the deadpool replacement)
-Luke Cage (Tv makeover default, classic comics alt skin)

Returning characters from previous Marvel games:

-Venom

Personal crazy wishlist with no chance:

-Molly Hayes (Runaways)
-The Captain (Next Wave)

 

[Mr. Smiley]

Bengus deserves a chance of redemption after SFV

I often forget MvC2 added in quite a few new characters and not just dump every character from the VS thus far+plus some SF/Darkstalkers.

I actually would look forward to seeing a modern interpret of Ruby Heart, Capcom-side. She has no real releveance, even after being the main rep for Capcom in 2's promotional stuff, but it would be neat.

 

[Stabby McSter]

Don't worry, the greatest Marvel woman's return was predicted

oh

:<

 

[Neoxon]

My persona roster prediction/wishlist/rambling:

Returning characters:

Guaranteed with MCU make over tier:
-Captain America
-Hulk
-Iron Man
-Thor
-Doctor Strange
-Spider-Man
-Hawkeye (new lvl 3)
-Rocket Raccoon (New moveset)

Likely because they're Vaguely MCU related tier:

-Dormammu (MCU inspired makeover?)
-She-Hulk
-Nova (MCU inspired makeover?)

"I feel they could return and i hope so" Tier:

-Taskmaster
-Ghost Rider (AoS makeover?)
-Iron Fist (Tv makeover?)

Probably gonna be cut tier (D :

-MODOK
-Shuma-Gorath

New characters:

99% sure they'll add them because MCU tier:

-Black Panther
-Vision
-Ant-Man
-Black Widow
-Thanos (Sub or Final Boss, but playable)
-Groot (either on his own or as part of Rocket's new moveset)
-Star Lord
-Drax or Gamora (somehow i feel we won't get both)

New characters from the marvel universe tier:

-Ms. Marvel (Kamala)
-Captain Marvel (Danvers)
-Squirrel Girl (as the deadpool replacement)
-Luke Cage (Tv makeover default, classic comics alt skin)

Returning characters from previous Marvel games:

-Venom

Personal crazy wishlist with no chance:

-Molly Hayes (Runaways)
-The Captain (Next Wave)

Runaways is getting an MCU-TV show. Also, you can put Captain Marvel & Luke Cage in the MCU tier.

 

[lucebuce12]

Don't worry, the greatest Marvel woman's return was predicted

 

[Galactic Specter]

yes

I don't have the gif but Panther can also do Sean's tatsu.

 

[Sesha]

Nico Minoru or any other Runaways character would be a dream come true. Marvel is pushing Nico in the comics, so there's hope.

 

[badcrumble]

Don't worry, the greatest Marvel woman's return was predicted

Nice.

I'm also down for Spider-Gwen.

 

[Neoxon]

I don't have the gif but Panther can also do Sean's tatsu.

I got you, fam.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

So, how many reps do you think Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Devil May Cry, and Mega Man will have? Does Strider seem likely to make the base game this time around? Let's get some Capcom speculation going.

 

[Skilletor]

Honestly, I know I'm getting BP, so I'm not even caring about the marvel side.

Capcom is way more interesting.

I would like to see a couple Rival Schools characters, Darkstalkers, At least one BoF rep (doubt it'd be Ryu because of naming conventions, so Fou Lu is good for me).

Really, though, just happy it appears to be happening. I'm sure it's going to be awesome and the roster will be great, and hopefully they've worked a deal out that won't screw over the competitive fanbase in a couple of years.

 

[BronsonLee]

Watch them patch out that She-Hulk line

And that's the ONLY thing they patch

 

[I-hate-u]

It's a new page, so here's the discussion I did with VesperArcade on the whole X-Men/F4 ban situation.

Your passion comes through strongly. Vesper almost couldn't keep up.

 

[Playsage]

So, taking in consideration the MCU, how many comic favorites can we actually get?

Main heroes: 14
- Captain America
- Iron Man
- Thor
- Hulk
- Vision
- Star-Lord
- Ant-Man
- Spider-Man
- Black Panther
- Captain Marvel
- Daredevil
- Jessica Jones
- Luke Cage
- Iron Fist

B-list: 15
- Black Widow
- War Machine
- Hawkeye
- Falcon
- Winter Soldier
- Gamora
- Rocket Raccoon
- Groot
- Drax
- Yondu
- Wasp
- Nebula
- Mantis
- Punisher
- Elektra

Notable villains: 5
- Loki
- Ultron
- Ronan The Accuser
- Thanos
- Kingpin

Now I don't believe they are gonna feature every single one but at the same time launch roster is probably way smaller than 34 (probably around 16-18)

"Cutting the fat", we would end up with:
- Cpt. America
- Iron Man
- Thor
- Hulk
- Black Widow
- Hawkeye (w/ Ant-Man)
- Vision
- Spider-Man
- Black Panther
- Captain Marvel
- Star Lord (w/ other Guardians as assist?)
- Rocket Raccoon (w/ Groot?)
- Daredevil
- Loki
- Ultron
- Thanos (playable boss?)

 

[TheDinoman]

Watch them patch out that She-Hulk line

And that's the ONLY thing they patch

They'll probably just leave it as is, lol.

I remember when Banjo-Tooie was re-released for 360/Xbone, they kept in the infamous "Just you wait until Banjo-Threeie!" line at the end, despite Nuts & Bolts being a thing at that point.

 

[FadedRevolution]

Honestly, I know I'm getting BP, so I'm not even caring about the marvel side.

Capcom is way more interesting.

I would like to see a couple Rival Schools characters, Darkstalkers, At least one BoF rep (doubt it'd be Ryu because of naming conventions, so Fou Lu is good for me).

Really, though, just happy it appears to be happening. I'm sure it's going to be awesome and the roster will be great, and hopefully they've worked a deal out that won't screw over the competitive fanbase in a couple of years.

For BOF I would love to see Rei or Teepo as a replacement for Ryu. Momo and Nina would be cool. Wang Tang and Falcon would be dope as well.

 

[Sesha]

So, how many reps do you think Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Devil May Cry, and Mega Man will have? Does Strider seem likely to make the base game this time around? Let's get some Capcom speculation going.

For the vanilla roster, 2-3, 4-5, 2-3, 1-2, in that order. Strider is likely I think, as is Tron Bonne, Phoenix Wright and Frank West. Gene is a likely addition, considering he was next up on the roster list for (U)MvC3, and demand on him has been relatively big. He's among the top 5 most requested Capcom characters of the ones not in MvC3.

 

[Skilletor]

For BOF I would love to see Rei or Teepo as a replacement for Ryu. Momo and Nina would be cool. Wang Tang and Falcon would be dope as well.

Teepo would be dope as well.

I'd like any representation, but I think it would be cool to get a Dragon in there for the potential supers and transformations.

 

[Xion_Stellar]

Shame about the mutants but it's expected..
If Capcom isn't trying too hard to be "mainstream" with it's character roster than I hope they bring back Jin, Hayato, Venom, and Captain Commando.

 

[Zaverious]

So if this Marvel 3 thing is a port do y'all think it's going to be a straight port, some balance patches, or the most unlikely scenario add 2-4 characters.

 

[MADGAME]

When is Capcom Cup?

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

So if this Marvel 3 thing is a port do y'all think it's going to be a straight port, some balance patches, or the most unlikely scenario add 2-4 characters.

Straight port +all dlc. No netcode improvements, no balance changes, etc.

 

[TheDinoman]

So if this Marvel 3 thing is a port do y'all think it's going to be a straight port, some balance patches, or the most unlikely scenario add 2-4 characters.

Just a simple port with the DLC and MAYBE some balance changes. Maybe. Probably not.

There won't be new characters. That ship has long sailed. We'll (most likely) have Marvel 4 for that.

 

[PSqueak]

Watch them patch out that She-Hulk line

And that's the ONLY thing they patch

Wouldn't surprise me, they did patch out Super Skrull saying "he loves you!"

 

[Mr. Smiley]

So if this Marvel 3 thing is a port do y'all think it's going to be a straight port, some balance patches, or the most unlikely scenario add 2-4 characters.

If it's a port, I can't imagine Capcom not doing some balancing in order to attract/bring back some of the hardcore and tourney players.

 

[BronsonLee]

So if this Marvel 3 thing is a port do y'all think it's going to be a straight port, some balance patches, or the most unlikely scenario add 2-4 characters.

'Straight port but you still gotta buy Jill and Shuma because fuck you' - Capcom

 

[Castef]

On a side note...

Capcom did not have the economic strength to develop Street Fighter V all by itself and needed money from Sony...

And yet they are developing such an expensive, license-based fighter on a multiplatform base?

 

[Buzzati]

It's a new page, so here's the discussion I did with VesperArcade on the whole X-Men/F4 ban situation.

Nice conversation. You should really get into making your own type of commentary on Youtube for moments like these. You've got a lot of good things to say and a ton of expertise. Good stuff.

 

[S1kkZ]

Rip mango sentinel.

Welcome Mango Ultron.

 

[Skilletor]

On a side note...

Capcom did not have the economic strength to develop Street Fighter V all by itself and needed money from Sony...

And yet they are developing such an expensive, license-based fighter on a multiplatform base?

Sony paid for Spidey. I think Sony is paying for this, too. Seems obvious to me they want their console to be synonymous with Marvel, Fighters, and Esports.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Wouldn't surprise me, they did patch out Super Skrull saying "he loves you!"

Why the hell did they do that?

 

[Pompadour]

On a side note...

Capcom did not have the economic strength to develop Street Fighter V all by itself and needed money from Sony...

And yet they are developing such an expensive, license-based fighter on a multiplatform base?

It's multiplatform?

 

[Cerium]

Bionic Commando vs Winter Soldier is a thing that should happen.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

stop trying to make new darkstalkers happen, no onr wants a new darkstalkers

 

[PSqueak]

Why the hell did they do that?

Im told because it was against the comics canon, since Super Skrull doesn't believe in the Skrull god the line refers to.

 

[vg260]

On a side note...

Capcom did not have the economic strength to develop Street Fighter V all by itself and needed money from Sony...

And yet they are developing such an expensive, license-based fighter on a multiplatform base?

They spent all their SFV money on Marvel licensing

 

[JazzmanZ]

Why the hell did they do that?

Super skrull didn't support that movement canon wise

 

[NandoGip]

Not many Capcom characters nowadays that I really care about TBH.

 

[sixteen-bit]

They spent all their SFV money on Marvel licensing

lmao

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

On a side note...

Capcom did not have the economic strength to develop Street Fighter V all by itself and needed money from Sony...

And yet they are developing such an expensive, license-based fighter on a multiplatform base?

how do you know theyre funding it on their own?

they also said sony money helped speed up V, not create it alone.

 

[Neoxon]

Your passion comes through strongly. Vesper almost couldn't keep up.

Thanks, man. Mahvel made me who I am today, so I owe a lot to the franchise.

Nice conversation. You should really get into making your own type of commentary on Youtube for moments like these. You've got a lot of good things to say and a ton of expertise. Good stuff.

I've been in Theatre for 13+ years, so I have some experience. All I need is better equipment & a capture card.

 

[Dahbomb]

So if this Marvel 3 thing is a port do y'all think it's going to be a straight port, some balance patches, or the most unlikely scenario add 2-4 characters.

What I want:

*Small balance changes and massive bug fixes. A lot of unintended stuff should be fixed like Galactus online hack and TAC infinite bug.

*Big netcode improvements.

*All DLCs, hitbox and replay viewer from the the VITA version.

*Optimization of stages so that it's possible to play the game on every stage without lag.

*Offline versus Heroes and Herald mode.

*PC version.


What I will get:

*No bug fixes and no balance changes.

*No netcode improvements.

*No replay and hitbox viewer.

*Straight port, no changes.

*No offline versus for H&H mode.

*No PC version.


New characters are impossible but they did have Doctor Octopus in the files of Marvel 3 at one time. Don't know who the corollary Capcom character was though.

 

[Hellshingu]

I haven't been reading either book, so not really sure. Only Inhumans I know are Kamala and Black Bolt. Black Bolt from Hickman's runs and Kamala because her book and character are awesome.

Not even sure who is writing it. Is it Soule? I know he's attached to a lot of Inhuman stuff.

Yeah it is Soule writing it. I don't have high hopes for it and will probably check it out after the whole run finishes. Think the event starts the 14th.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

Is Gene regularly alluded to or an easter egg in recent Capcom games?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Im told because it was against the comics canon, since Super Skrull doesn't believe in the Skrull god the line refers to.

Super skrull didn't support that movement canon wise

Oh. That actually makes sense and im surprised they made the effort to correct it lol.