He'd probably be Sentinel + Nemesis.
Polygon: Yes, a new Marvel vs. Capcom game is in development. (X-Men gone, MCU focus)
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Oh my. Is it really happening?!
Ono oversees multiple fighting and non-fighting game projects at Capcom. He's involved in everything, but is also clearly a prominent voice/figure for their fighting game division.
Go "fuck it" and replace/add a bunch of move where he calls in assists from spirit of justice npcs.
Air raid from the toy copter!
Datz bellyflopping in from the sky!
"A dragon never yields!"
in vanilla he didn't have the ability to convert at all because he didn't have airdash cancelable normals, the numerous normal buffs that he got in ultimate or the combo extender buffs (repulsor hard KD, smart bomb hitstun+speed buff that lets him combo from throws/airthrows consistently). hell, even his special damage scaling got buffed by a significant amount iirc. remember when cr.h wasn't special cancelable and flight was too slow to combo off of cr.m st.h?
he's also less weak than magneto from below and if he got even a thor airdash he'd be a massive fucking problem by just farting around and then doing airdash down+S or airdash downback+S. he really does not have trouble covering his landings that much
you're right in that his largest limiting factors is his ground dash, though. if he had the ability to just move around like a regular character instead of having ryu/chris's insane '16f of can't do anything' dash with nonsensical acceleration then he would be infinitely better while still being worse than doom because of his ground converts being so finnicky. if he got a real ground dash AND a solid way to convert off stuff (cr.m st.h starter working regardless of distance) then he'd be doom tier, roughly
also he'd be a trijump character, why does he need a crossup? remember, he's got sentinel-sized normals already. being able to just do airdash forward j.s with a real airdash and ground dash is already nova-tier in scaring the shit out of someone/generating pressure. add in a real trijump and boy howdy
i really hope this is true. yeah i like the xmen in marvel games but i can deal with them being gone for this iteration. i don't even care if it's just a versus game of something else (cvs, capcom vs capcom) and doesn't involve marvel as long as it plays similarly.
i enjoyed sfiv up until around ultra, and after investing a fair bit of time into sfv i've come to the conclusion it just isn't for me. a new versus game would have me buying a console and a stick. if it came out on pc that would be the dream. shit i'd be delighted if they just patched umvc3 and released a decent pc port.
i enjoyed sfiv up until around ultra, and after investing a fair bit of time into sfv i've come to the conclusion it just isn't for me. a new versus game would have me buying a console and a stick. if it came out on pc that would be the dream. shit i'd be delighted if they just patched umvc3 and released a decent pc port.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Now this takes me back.
Ono most likely has nothing to do with marvel. He's the SF guy.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Also I've been dying for a BoF character. Nina or Fou-Lu would be great picks but it'll never happen
Me too.
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Who the fuck voted for Triton?
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TheDinoman
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Can someone photoshop MODOK's face onto the moon from Majora's Mask? That'd be pretty fitting right now.
Isn't the new Infinity War movie supposed to have like over 50 characters in it? That's more than enough
sixteen-bit
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Oddball picks for the Capcom side: Linn Kurosawa and Gene
The Inhumans are totally going replace the X-Men lol.
You do realize that this isn't Capcom's fault, right?
Wait, you're telling me Capcom made a new game in one of their beloved IPs after years of fan demand, and managed to somehow find a way to fuck it up on a fundamental scale? I for one am shocked.
EDIT: Just checked the rest of the thread, someone already corrected you.
I'm surprised how often I'm seeing Gene. I mean I love it, but I expected to see a lot more Asura than Gene, because they fill a similar role. Super-powerful (relatively speaking, in their own universe) bruiser that has limited energy projection, from a single game with no sequels, that was a flop financially but a super charming sleeper hit. I've been calling for Gene, and to a lesser extent, Asura since MvC3.
Anyway, now some theorycrafting. Characters I think are locks for MvC4, Marvel side. Loki, he's a very prominent villain in the MCU, which is rumored to be the focus. Would provide a unique approach to gameplay as well. Daredevil, he was relegated to a background character in the last game, and has had a very popular TV show in the meantime. Spider-Gwen, she is blowing up right now. One or more Spider-Man villains, Doc Ock was in the files of MvC3, but not completed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Venom or Carnage either. At least one character from Guardians of the Galaxy, either Starlord or Groot, for obvious reasons. Ant-man, for obvious reasons. Those are the ones I think are locks, 100% chance to get in, though there are others that I think are very likely.
Locks for Capcom side, SOME SORT OF MEGA MAN. I expect X, but with the success of Classic in Smash, I wouldn't be surprised to see him, honestly. Some sort of Rival Schools rep, probably Batsu. He was in TvC and MvC3 didn't have a Rival Schools rep. Either Asura or Gene, not both. I expect Asura to be in and Gene be an assist if the rumors are true about assist only characters. A new Street Fighter character, most likely Rashid or Necalli. Also a Monster Hunter rep. Hunter would be good in Rathalos armor. Either weapon switching, or keep one weapon, either could work. Three colors could be Red for Rathalos, Blue for Azure Rathalos, and Silver for Silver Rathalos. they could also have a monster, it is unlikely but possible. A Felyne is the most likely of all. Think Servbot, Roll, Viewtiful Joe, or Amaterasu size.
I'm sorry if I've repeated opinions that some of you hold, but I've been reading through the thread and have absorbed information and been convinced of certain things by some compelling arguments.
I guess even if Marvel did that, people would still blame Capcom somehow.
Logic does not apply on cases like this.
Oh man. Ain't that the truth. Capcom is probably the company not named Konami that people like to blame the most.
Mr. Smiley
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Yeah, I don't envy Capcom's position if it ends up true.
GuileBootCamp
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I hope that discussion you did with Vesper is heard by a lot of people. Thanks for doing that, btw. If more people know all the details about what Marvel is doing to the X-Men/F4 characters, then less of the blame will be put onto Capcom. Capcom are the ones I'm really worried about in all this, and by extension, the future of the fighting game genre/FGC.
Personally don't think it'll matter to most people.
World is a different place since when MvC3 launched. It'll make internet denizens mad the same way it makes them mad when their favorite characters aren't in the latest release of a fighting game.
Marvel is an entity now, though. Not going to matter when they start showing footage of all the characters that are in billion dollar properties. Casuals, those consumers so many people have been telling Capcom to chase, are going to eat that shit up. This has potential to be huge.
World is a different place since when MvC3 launched. It'll make internet denizens mad the same way it makes them mad when their favorite characters aren't in the latest release of a fighting game.
Marvel is an entity now, though. Not going to matter when they start showing footage of all the characters that are in billion dollar properties. Casuals, those consumers so many people have been telling Capcom to chase, are going to eat that shit up. This has potential to be huge.
shaowebb
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At this point if no marvel fighting game or port with patch is mentioned its gonna explode against capcom after all this buildup this week. At minimal a port of UMVC3 would be something but if it was just a port with no patch it'd get slaughtered by people raging.
Here's hoping it truly is the full sequel we've heard rumored and not just the UMVC3 port hinted at that someone mentioned it sounded like Polygon was hinting at as well.
Worst case...nothing.
Best case Marvel 4 and UMVC3 update port with patch to play till it launches. (And likely after.)
Here's hoping it truly is the full sequel we've heard rumored and not just the UMVC3 port hinted at that someone mentioned it sounded like Polygon was hinting at as well.
Worst case...nothing.
Best case Marvel 4 and UMVC3 update port with patch to play till it launches. (And likely after.)
Lights and Waves
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Judging from the OP, it really sounds like they're going to re-release UMVC3 to appease the Xmen fans. That way they can release MVC4 with no Xmen and people won't be as salty.
ForkNetwork
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If I get Ant-Man without his stupid comic design, Black Panther, anything from Monster Hunter, Mega Man X or Necalli I will be able to look past the X-men exclusion.
Also I would love it if they include DmC Dante, people would lose their shit.
Also I would love it if they include DmC Dante, people would lose their shit.
TheDinoman
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X-Men being out would defintely cause a shitstorm, but I think the 2v2+1 assist rumor being true would also piss a lot of people off, especially Marvel fans.
TRUE ORDER
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Nope, I'm still #teambelieve
lucebuce12
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I really really really don't understand the Necalli love. He is such a horrible character, design wise.
Fucker can't even formulate proper sentences.
Fucker can't even formulate proper sentences.
GuileBootCamp
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I still think the 8 year old son of someone high up at Capcom designed him and his "I can do everything AND I'm a Super Saiyan!" moveset.
Not Capcom's fault the community falls into a hype echo chamber.
No problem, Vesper was actually really down with the idea when I suggested it to him. Our plan (or at least after we recorded that video) is to do more Mahvel & Injustice discussions together since I have the comic book knowledge. I think I'm coming back for the podcast after PSX/CC, so I'll likely be talking about more than just Mahvel.
shaowebb
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Yeah, really. One dream gets posted and suddenly its rumored and true because this guy said so etc etc etc.
Marvel is even more rabid than Smash in rumors and fans IMO.
Crimsonclaw111
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I mean, they earned that reputation over the last 5 years or so. They made a ton of dumb decisions.
Dark_3nergy
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As someone who has been following Marvel on and off for some time, I can assure you that most folks who research know Marvel is being really vindictive over X-Men. We need to throw fire and brimstone at Marvel's treatment of a beloved series that many of us 90's kids grew up with.
To mirror what others said, I am gravely concerned for Capcom's sake in light of this situation. They maybe doing OK, but there was a lot of turmoil over how SF5 launched. I whole headily agree that Capcom is not the enemy here, they just by chance are that one company that had a lot of dealings with Marvel in their career and I doubt anyone else could make Marvel Vs Capcom IP AS GOOD as Capcom does.
That being said, I also agree with what Maximilian Dood has said in his latest video about how strange it would be to not see a MvC series NOT built on X-men characters-- because the legacy and the hype train that became the MvC series was built on the backs of X Men characters.
I want to see the X Men in this game. They NEED to be there, they DESERVE to be there. This should not be a question of who or why, it simply should BE.
To mirror what others said, I am gravely concerned for Capcom's sake in light of this situation. They maybe doing OK, but there was a lot of turmoil over how SF5 launched. I whole headily agree that Capcom is not the enemy here, they just by chance are that one company that had a lot of dealings with Marvel in their career and I doubt anyone else could make Marvel Vs Capcom IP AS GOOD as Capcom does.
It also would be really silly for another studio to pick up the MvC IP and develop it anyway.
That being said, I also agree with what Maximilian Dood has said in his latest video about how strange it would be to not see a MvC series NOT built on X-men characters-- because the legacy and the hype train that became the MvC series was built on the backs of X Men characters.
I want to see the X Men in this game. They NEED to be there, they DESERVE to be there. This should not be a question of who or why, it simply should BE.
Yeah, lol. This thread is ridiculous.
Wait, this is a 2nd thread isn't it? LOL
I hope it happens.
This is it right here. You see it in Smash as well.
X-Men is probably only the beginning of the outrage, and it will go through the motions once more. Let's not forget the whole Megaman debacle last time. So long as this is a series that involves a collection of beloved characters, people will always be pissed if their favourite character doesn't get in because they weigh the entire value of and the entirety of their interest in the game on that single character getting in or not. And that happens whether it's a popular character like Megaman Classic or someone the majority of prospective consumers don't give a fuck about like Geno.
I whole-heartedly agree. At this point, I'll even take a reduction of Fox representation down to the bare essentials (Wolverine, Deadpool, Doctor Doom, & Magneto) if it means having them represented in the game at all.
it's me, i'm the one who is outraged over no taskmaster
GuileBootCamp
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I'll be sad if Taskmaster's gone, too. He was my favorite character in the MvC3 games.
sixteen-bit
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if there are no X-men in MvC4, do you expect it to sell fewer copies than MvC3?
That's an iffy question. The average joe mainly cares about the MCU characters, but Deadpool's absence when he's at the height of his popularity will definitely hurt the game's sales. The question is how much the game will suffer for it if the worst-case scenario happens.
BassForever
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Game will do fine with or without xmen they'll hype up guardians + avengers and that'll get casuals in the door
True, but you have to admit that people will notice that Deadpool's missing (same for Wolverine). It may not be a major drop in potential sales, but it'll be some kind of drop.
You're right, but this is gonna be one of the few scenarios where they don't deserve it. Especially if they do all they can to have this game even exist.
TRUE ORDER
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Watched the video yesterday, thanks for sharing your thoughts on the matter and making things clearer for those of us who don't know that much about the ban.
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